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[Poll] Ecm: What Modification Would You Like To See?


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Poll: ECM: How to move forward (134 member(s) have cast votes)

Choose the one modification to ECM you would like implemented most?

  1. No modifications are needed for ECM (31 votes [8.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.36%

  2. ECM and EECM modes should be separated into two pieces of equipment (16 votes [4.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.31%

  3. LRMS should be allowed to achieve lock on to a target with direct LOS, but not share targeting information (53 votes [14.29%])

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  4. SSRMs should act as dumb fire missles while under an ECM umbrella (44 votes [11.86%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.86%

  5. 200m range the enemy radar is effective at against ECM should be increased (20 votes [5.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.39%

  6. 180m umbrella range of the ECM should be decreased (13 votes [3.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.50%

  7. ECM's ability to cut off information sharing on enemy mechs should be removed (8 votes [2.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.16%

  8. ECM should not disrupt the ability to target, just the ability to share infomation (31 votes [8.36%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.36%

  9. More mechs should be allowed to equip ECM (16 votes [4.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.31%

  10. Only light mechs should be able to equip ECM (11 votes [2.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.96%

  11. Only medium and light mechs should be able to equip ECM (5 votes [1.35%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.35%

  12. Assault mechs should not be allowed to equip ECM (10 votes [2.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.70%

  13. D-DC should not have ECM, but a different assault mech should be able to equip ECM (4 votes [1.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.08%

  14. D-DC should not have ECM, but a heavy mech should be able to equip ECM (3 votes [0.81%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.81%

  15. There should be no ECM umbrella. ECM should only hide the mech equipping it (24 votes [6.47%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.47%

  16. Display enemy and friendly umbrella radius on the minimap (16 votes [4.31%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.31%

  17. Give BAP the ability to reduce the ranges on ECM (39 votes [10.51%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.51%

  18. Allow all raven varients access to ECM (23 votes [6.20%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.20%

  19. ECMs should not stcack, one ECCM counters all ECMs in it's range (4 votes [1.08%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.08%

  20. Choice made from second list (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

ECM Modifications list 2

  1. Choice made from fist list (6 votes [66.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. ECM should weigh more tons (2 votes [22.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.22%

  3. ECM should require more crit slots (1 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

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#1 Dracol

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 09:52 PM

If there are any possible modifications I missed, let me know and I'll add em.

Edited by Dracol, 09 December 2012 - 11:16 AM.


#2 Aethon

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:06 PM

Perhaps add an option about BAP being able to counteract some (not all) of ECM's effects, for the mech that mounts it...looking forward to seeing the results of the poll, though.

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 10:09 PM

pfft , need to add more buffs to this list, i want map wide ecm.

#4 Quazil

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:36 PM

The dumb-fire change is the only one that is needed in terms of mechanics.
A [much better] lobby system is the other failing. If you were dropped into a lobby where you could coordinate your drop with as a PUG then things would be much better all around. (e.g. 'Who has ECM?
Who's scouting? etc...)

Edited by Quazil, 06 December 2012 - 11:36 PM.


#5 JudgeDeathCZ

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:42 PM

Remove "stealth" ability or at least increase it for more than 200m(maybe 400 and 500 /w BAP)Like it was in previous MW tittles.
That stealth-like ability is CLEARLY mechwarrior game implement.In TT ECM there is not ANY f*cking word about decreasing/jamming sensors/radar if you stay 180m+ away from mech w/ ECM.

View PostSalient, on 06 December 2012 - 10:09 PM, said:

pfft , need to add more buffs to this list, i want map wide ecm.

you already have it...well except those 20m between ECM bubble and detection range...

#6 HlynkaCG

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Posted 06 December 2012 - 11:52 PM

Suggestion: Reduce effective radius of the ECM umbrella for mechs equiped with BAP.

to clarify...
If you have BAP you can detect enemy ECM covered mechs farther out (say 400 meters instead of 200) and you don't suffer disruption unless the enemy ECM mech is within 90 meters of you instead of 180.

Edited by HlynkaCG, 06 December 2012 - 11:52 PM.


#7 Teralitha

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:15 AM

Add an option to make ECM and BAP function exactly the same as it did in MW4, Problem solved.


The reality though... is that PGI has already spent several weeks/ or even months developing this ECM and very little is likely to be changed with it any time soon, if ever.

Edited by Teralitha, 07 December 2012 - 12:18 AM.


#8 LarkinOmega

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 12:22 AM

Place a circular representation of the ECM fields on the minimap. Red for the enemy, blue for friendlies. This solves the stealth issue, and lets you easily know when you are in a field or not.

#9 Dracol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 04:59 AM

Added two more options:
- Allow BaP to reduce the effective range of enemy ECM
- Display ECM radius on minimap

I can not recall at the moment how MW4 handled ECM

Edited by Dracol, 07 December 2012 - 04:59 AM.


#10 Lupin

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:36 AM

Is 180m Radius (Center to edge of field) or Diameter?
I think ECM cover field should be reduced, WAY to big (180m / 590ft ). 90/100m should be better and still be able to cover and friend or 2 not WHOLE team.

BAP being an active probe should increase radar range vs. ECM.

Also players need to get use to it and read how it works and can be countered like any new item.

#11 Terror Teddy

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:48 AM

-Direct LRM aiming allowed
-Increased Lock time for direct fire
-Cannot see enemy ECM field
-Allow players to see an aproximation of the enemy ECM by a disturbance/distortion on the map

Sensor improvements
-Active (Affected by ECM)
-Passive (Can target ECM user ONLY, with LRM/SSRM etc)
-BAP (Reduce ECM field for BAP user when in range equal to the % bonus of improved sensor range)

#12 Dracol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:16 AM

View PostLupin, on 07 December 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

Is 180m Radius (Center to edge of field) or Diameter?
I think ECM cover field should be reduced, WAY to big (180m / 590ft ). 90/100m should be better and still be able to cover and friend or 2 not WHOLE team.

BAP being an active probe should increase radar range vs. ECM.

Also players need to get use to it and read how it works and can be countered like any new item.

I believe it is radius. Mechs are affected 180m from the ECM equipped mech

#13 Taryys

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:18 AM

Give all Ravens access to ECM.

#14 Sean Ward

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:25 AM

I think we should wait and see where ECM takes us. I dont think what we have now is representative because the nuances are still being discovered and people are still learning to play with and against it.
I voted do nothing and then I suggest do this poll on the 20th and hope for a christmas present if you are still unhappy with ECM :)

#15 Dracol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 07:54 AM

I agree about doing a follow up poll in a week or so. Be interesting to compare the results and see if a week or so of game play changes people's perception of ECM.

#16 Felix

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 08:08 AM

I like the idea of ECM only shielding the mech it is equipped on but increasing the lock on time against any other mechs protected by their bubble.

I also support direct lock on for LRMs so long as they have the enemy targets within their LoS

#17 Dracol

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:03 AM

Added option for all Ravens should be able to equip ECM

#18 Taryys

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:03 AM

Thanks!

#19 topgun505

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:09 AM

As long as the matchmaker is not attempting to match weight classes then no assault or heavy mechs should be allowed to mount ecm.

I think the only thing needed is to not permit stacking of ecm effects so there is no point of having a Raven swarm on the field.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 09:13 AM

IMO, remove it from the Atlas, give all Ravens access to ECM, give ECM to a dragon variant since dragons are bad, and maybe give ECM to the terrible Awesome variant with 2 missile and 3 energy hardpoints, plus if they ever add the Cyclops [90 ton command mech], give it access to ECM as well

Edited by QuantumButler, 07 December 2012 - 09:13 AM.






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