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[B1T]

It's really not such a big deal. I hear so much about PGI this and that. They are doing a fantastic job at developing a game that requires careful thinking about strategy. It's also a BETA and a WIP. Really, if you think it's unbalanced, feel free to say so, but posting in a way that makes PGI look like the "bad guy" is really missing the point.

ECM may be really overpowered atm, but trust me, there is a lot more coming to make ECM look trivial. Since the FIRST appearance of the Mechwarrior franchise reboot, it's been said that the game is going to focus much more on sensor and tactical strategy. Let PGI do their work and enjoy playing along. Tbh, in playing mechwarrior for the past 16 years, this is by far the best mechwarrior experience I've had.

If there is a poor feature that's been implemented - post about it! But don't act like PGI is a bunch of jerks. Just keep everything in perspective and realize that a year from now ECM is going to be nothing compared to clan tech. =)

Edited by BitFish, 23 February 2013 - 12:33 AM.

[SlXSlXSlX]

Thirdstar, on 23 February 2013 - 12:29 AM, said:

It's pretty okay in the Ghetto, us lowskills are entirely undisturbed by the tourney.

True story. I just got over 600 dmg. 2nd highest score. In a trial mech. Chastized my team for leaving th eflank open, and low and behold they reacted and shut down the cap rush. It was glorious.

We hood rats... have a strong spirit.

[Rhanne]

Man... so embarresed... im in a pic and i got fraged in the back going through the ship before i could do anything.

[Shadowsword8]

Kotsuno, on 22 February 2013 - 11:56 PM, said:

Just wait till collisions come back. Then you can step on them. Literally.

It won't change the fact that ton for ton, ECM bring more than any other module. BY ONE FREAKING ORDER OF MAGNITUDE.

[Thirdstar]

Critical Fumble, on 23 February 2013 - 12:30 AM, said:

Really? I keep seeing flocks of Ravens. . .

I've seen like one 3L since I started playing in the morning.

Edit: Uh, my morning.

Edited by Thirdstar, 23 February 2013 - 12:39 AM.

[MonkeyCheese]

Thirdstar, on 23 February 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

I've seen like one 3L since I started playing in the morning.

then you are lucky, 3Ls were slowly dissapearing but this "tourney" has just made them come back out of the woodwork

Edited by MonkeyCheese, 23 February 2013 - 12:40 AM.

[Critical Fumble]

Thirdstar, on 23 February 2013 - 12:38 AM, said:

I've seen like one 3L since I started playing in the morning.

Edit: Uh, my morning.

Yeah, I've seen several. Granted, one had MGs, but still.

But I didn't play much between the time they started logging ELO and when it started effecting MM, so maybe I wasn't tuned down as far by people who thought high ELO is always a good thing?

[Poptimus Rhyme Wallace]

BitFish, on 23 February 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

It's really not such a big deal. I hear so much about PGI this and that. They are doing a fantastic job at developing a game that requires careful thinking about strategy. It's also a BETA and a WIP. Really, if you think it's unbalanced, feel free to say so, but posting in a way that makes PGI look like the "bad guy" is really missing the point.

ECM may be really overpowered atm, but trust me, there is a lot more coming to make ECM look trivial. Since the FIRST appearance of the Mechwarrior franchise reboot, it's been said that the game is going to focus much more on sensor and tactical strategy. Let PGI do their work and enjoy playing along. Tbh, in playing mechwarrior for the past 16 years, this is by far the best mechwarrior experience I've had.

If there is a poor feature that's been implemented - post about it! But don't act like PGI is a bunch of jerks. Just keep everything in perspective and realize that a year from now ECM is going to be nothing compared to clan tech. =)

IMO
It is not so much a question of individual Stuff being overpowered so much as the fact that we have a residing playerbase of supposed beta testers, but instead of testing or "exploring" the game, it devolves into epeen stroking, flamewars and smacktalk, while this might be enjoyable to younger people, i find it hard to believe that anyone who can hold an income is that much of a childish pr*ck, I'm assuming that we are all here because we want to see the game get bigger and better, what is the idea behind monotonous gamestyle, no experimentation and repeated cheese dependancy? Are there really people out there so empty they worry about their Epeen on any level beyond that of a forum troll? and how did these people get the idea to ruin this part of the intarwebs for the rest of us? Has Gaia online been taken down? Has 4chan received a seize and desist? surely there must be some logical explanation... perhaps EA has a competitor to MWO in the works and all the trolling and cheese is a result of industrial sabotage?

[Thirdstar]

Critical Fumble, on 23 February 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

Yeah, I've seen several. Granted, one had MGs, but still.

But I didn't play much between the time they started logging ELO and when it started effecting MM, so maybe I wasn't tuned down as far by people who thought high ELO is always a good thing?

From what I understand, if you're a new player or simply 'new' in Elo system, you have an average score. Now, depending on just how much variation there is between the skill tiers, you may have dropped smack dab into scrub 3L country.

[B1T]

H8Bitter, on 23 February 2013 - 12:42 AM, said:

IMO
It is not so much a question of individual Stuff being overpowered so much as the fact that we have a residing playerbase of supposed beta testers, but instead of testing or "exploring" the game, it devolves into epeen stroking, flamewars and smacktalk, while this might be enjoyable to younger people, i find it hard to believe that anyone who can hold an income is that much of a childish pr*ck, I'm assuming that we are all here because we want to see the game get bigger and better, what is the idea behind monotonous gamestyle, no experimentation and repeated cheese dependancy? Are there really people out there so empty they worry about their Epeen on any level beyond that of a forum troll? and how did these people get the idea to ruin this part of the intarwebs for the rest of us? Has Gaia online been taken down? Has 4chan received a seize and desist? surely there must be some logical explanation... perhaps EA has a competitor to MWO in the works and all the trolling and cheese is a result of industrial sabotage?

Haha, I hope not. I think "betatesters" are a pretty small minority at this point. Maybe only a fraction larger than the founders. At this point it is an open game.The encouraging factor is in the fact that the "true mechwarriors" (players that love the history, universe, etc.) seem to be so upbeat about mechwarrior online and the direction it is heading. As long as PGI is focused on those players and not catering to the masses of Gaia/4chan rejects, I think mwo will continue to be successful.

Edited by BitFish, 23 February 2013 - 12:51 AM.

[Rhanne]

honestly it was a pack of 3 3L's on TS calling out targets and working together that did it not the ecm. or it may have been the flamers.... thurm's 3L dosent use streaks. mine does, because honestly im usuially a cat or treb driver.
and i died in the first contact

Edited by Rhanne, 23 February 2013 - 12:52 AM.

[xhrit]

Every raven should be able to have jump jets and ecm.

then you wouldn't see just 3Ls and 4Xs.

[chewie]

Its not PGI's fault (directly) that people prefer the 3L as the light of choice right now (and the occasional 2D).

Unless they enforce something in the drops that limits tonnage or number of chassis, yoru gonna run into 4 ravens in a huddle. An awful lot.

Whether its the Tourney or just people doing normal drops.

ECM is way too useful right now, at shutting down Streaks unless you can counter it.

Me and a few lance mates did multiple drops were we had no lights but we did have 1 DDC, purely to give us that coverage.

There are ways to counter it, PPC and ECM on counter mode. And lots of folks are now running PPC to do that.

OP, at the end of the day, you take your chances in this game that your opponents won't drop like they did in your picture, with 4 3L's.

Hopefully your gaming experience wont always be as it was last night.


And just for ***** and giggles, we dropped a 3L and a 2D for a few matches too, because it can be too much fun running round fatles's that have no support from their team, chucking Streaks like you have an unlimited supply at your disposal.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Learns that a Scout Mech no atlas is not a heavy or Assault, with or with no ECM so it's not the hero alone, but can only scout and support the team, you fight with Light Mechs, by trying to get in the back of the respondent, during this preoccupied with the heavier mechs of the team, who is in the light immediately running towards the enemy, and thinks he can severely damage this team without help, is simply a suicidal or stupid.A raven, which is switched off before my Assault, or 700m in front of me zurennt to annoy me with SRMs is just cannon fodder, because not at all ends with direct fire weapons bothers me ECM and PPCs now disable for 4sec the enemy ECM.

Edited by CSJ Ranger, 23 February 2013 - 01:09 AM.

[Rhanne]

chewie, on 23 February 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

Hopefully your gaming experience wont always be as it was last night.


And just for ***** and giggles, we dropped a 3L and a 2D for a few matches too, because it can be too much fun running round fatles's that have no support from their team, chucking Streaks like you have an unlimited supply at your disposal.

This...

sorry we roughed ya up. Like i said im usuially one of the ones getting shanked by lights. but tonight we were just messing around and having a few laughs.

[Yigyam]

tl;dr

It'll take a few weeks for matchmaking to sort everyone out. Patience.

[Training Instructor]

Okay, bought a Trebuchet, brand new chassis that i've never played before.

Just did 684 damage in a match. Two other guys on the team did something useful. 1 disconnected at beginning. 4 were worthless.

My KDR is only 1.35 on the account I actually play on, but my win/loss is somewhere around 60% because I go for wins more than KDR. Guess that's punishing me now. I should have been one of those cool guys with a 4+ KDR ratio who only won 40% of their games, and I'd be feasting this weekend.

[Reported for Inappropriate Name]

when i'm fighting someone, and they realize whats happening and start trying to protect themselves, i feel like a ****** because they're powerless to stop me. You can tell the moment when people realize they're screwed and completely helpless and it makes me feel really bad

I presume the same thing happens when i'm in trouble as well, but I suppose the biggest issue i have is that the game feels much too sluggish once into the meat of combat, and that there are too many weapons and not enough literature out there for new players to understand what to avoid- the fact that there are weapons you must avoid if you want to be successful in itself is frustrating to me.

Edited by Battlecruiser, 23 February 2013 - 01:28 AM.

[Jabilo]

Stavros Mueller, on 23 February 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

tl;dr

It'll take a few weeks for matchmaking to sort everyone out. Patience.

QFT

Stick with it. Remember there will be people driving their lights for the first time this weekend for the tournament, so they will not have seeding info.

Have patience and it will sort itself out, and don't judge the community by the trolls in the general forum.

[a rabid chihuahua]

well if it makes you fell better a I two shotted a Raven3L tonight with my dual AC/20's ,legged then cored him ,then neutered a commando running with him.