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[JohnnyC]

F lan Ker, on 23 February 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

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The editing is done to the USER.cfg found in MWO main folder. You add the lines there. For example if you want bigger FOV then open the USER.cfg with notepad and add the line cl_fov = 85 to it and save. Given value is an example which I am using at the moment.

I use cl_fov = 79

85 seems a bit too much on my screen (1920x1080).

[F lan Ker]

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I use same 1920x1080 resolution and do not find it bad.

[rgreat]

I use 75.

2560x1600

Edited by rgreat, 23 February 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[Hades Trooper]

Thank you those of you have contributed in a positive manner, explaining this to myself and others will then not make people like they have advantage. i'm not the greatest pilot by means, but a lvl playing field makes me feel ok with dieing knowing it's down to piloting, not some side extra knowledge outside of the game- others don't have.

perhaps we could do a better thread and sticky it so people can learn to do this?

Edited by Hades Trooper, 23 February 2013 - 02:45 PM.

[Ram71]

what I hear is a valid point being made about people tweaking files so they have an unfair advantage ..... sounds like cheating to me. I also see that the ones telling him not to cry are the ones who have cheated. so tell me where is the fun in winning if you aren't using your own skills ????? no wonder we are seeing more 8-0 wins if these guys are making it unfair by modifying the game in a way most can't. i'm a chef and I know next to nothing about game code but what I do know is if you cut corners sooner or later it will come back and haunt you in one way or another. I personally think that the dev's should have the game deny players with files that have been tampered with.

[Trev Firestorm]

They block out settings that they don't want you to mess with, the people that download things to unlock the locked settings on the other hand...

[DeadlyNerd]

JohnnyC, on 23 February 2013 - 02:25 PM, said:

I use cl_fov = 79

85 seems a bit too much on my screen (1920x1080).

because 80 is too mainstream or you just rebel?

No, config file modifying isn't wrong. Game doesn't originally have a mouse sensitivity slider, which every other game has, so it's quite mandatory to do that via the config file if you want to keep using your high dpi mouse as it's supposed to be used.
fov is for the feeling. If anything default fov is like having first degree of zoom in high fov.

[Hades Trooper]

oh great i downloaded a notepad version that's giving my pc a friggin adware bug. this is why is don't like having to change things around myself and not whats comes in the box itself. as my windows 7 version only had wordpad and it didn't seem to have anything but an empty page, so i used notepad as people said would open it and now this happens.

This is why stuff like this should be an in game thing. I keep away from websites i don't normal know and my stupid spyware firewall didn't detect anything but it's change my post for the word game- now needs - on the ned of it, or it changes into a hyper link and pops up an ad.

testing it out to see how much this fov improves things to spread the word.

and now this happens, Fudge me friggin sideways!

Edited by Hades Trooper, 23 February 2013 - 02:52 PM.

[F lan Ker]

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Well, there would be less QQ and witch hunts going on if there was a proper DEVELOPER driven thread on stuff like this, telling what can be done and what not. Kind of a Tweaker's Guide or something. This way ALL players would be on the same ball park so to say. I would rather see a comprehensive in-game GUI for tweaking and rest that players should not tamper with just locked out and not tweakable in any way.

[Flashback37]

So THAT"S how I keep getting hit by by invisible mechs. Lately I've been getting shot, see the fire incoming but cannot see the mech that is shooting me. In any vision mode, even with advanced zoom. I thought it was piloting trick I haven't learned yet. Sounds like cheating to me.
hmmm, yeah. If I can't even see you, but you can see and shoot me because you messed with game files, that's cheating.

[Budor]

I removed DOF and the Filgrain. DOF should have a button, it blurrs mechs out way to early. It simply is an advantage to play without it.

[Deamhan]

I concur. If you can't change a setting in the game's options, you shouldn't be changing it PERIOD. It doesn't matter if they say they are gonna put certain sliders in or not. If they do then at that time, you can adjust those sliders all you want. Just because they say they are gonna do something now, doesn't mean they will actually do it later. They may change their minds for whatever the reason.

So someone says that even Garth does it? Well I also saw someone write on here that Garth is also a rated CounterStrike player. So of course he modifies the **** out of the game files on his rig. CounterStrike and Day of Defeat got so bad for it that if you didn't do it yourself, you were playing with a major handicap. Do one thing alone may not have been all that much but when you start adding up the effects of a couple dozen modifications, it turns into a huge difference.

Also, some of the "changes" are not actual changes at all. Some are not simple changes to existing values. Some of these "changes" is actually putting in addition code for a more favorable in game effect.

It's cheating. It's just not a third party application modifying the game, but rather it is you modifying the game. It is really any less cheating simply because you didn't download a program to do it for you? Oh, I see. It's only cheating if the program uses client side information to deliver to you intel and allow you to do things you otherwise were not suppose to be able to do, but it's not cheating to modify your game files to allow you to do things you otherwise were not suppose to be able to do.

Easy enough fix though. Since some values are suppose to be fixed and the in game options allows you to make specific changes, the client simply needs to, upon connection with the servers, quickly verify the config. If the config files contain coding or even values that should not be available, the game overwrites the game files with new ones at a default setting.

Between this, the min/max build issues, the grossly OP and not in line with canon ECM, etc.
This isn't Mechwarrior Online. This is CounterStrike Mech Edition.
Next time I hear about a Mechwarrior game, the developers better damn well be into Mechwarrior and Battletech and not lame *** first person shooters.

I have a prediction as to what CW will be. You register your account to one of the houses or clans or pick merc group. You then drop with others in your clan and house and do the same team vs team in an arena we are doing now. The servers keep track of the drops and who wins and the house or clan that is currently winning the most team death matches on a planet has "ownership" of it. There is no, you win and claim this as yours. There is only you win now come back and repeat your win over, and over, and over or else one of the other houses/clans will have ownership. The actual game experience will be nothing more than it is right now. The only changes will be....

12 vs 12 instead of 8 vs 8
Maps will be around the size of Alpine
Selecting the planet (if we can even do that at all) will simply be selecting the map
There will be some more variety in the cap styles and the cap points may become a little beefier.

Fundamentally identical to what we do right now.

[Mechrophilia]

F lan Ker, on 23 February 2013 - 02:52 PM, said:

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Well, there would be less QQ and witch hunts going on if there was a proper DEVELOPER driven thread on stuff like this, telling what can be done and what not. Kind of a Tweaker's Guide or something. This way ALL players would be on the same ball park so to say. I would rather see a comprehensive in-game GUI for tweaking and rest that players should not tamper with just locked out and not tweakable in any way.

+1, and well put.

[F lan Ker]

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Deamhan, I really hope MWO does not turn to this what you described, CW with minor flavor added but same battling for win over and over again. Urgh, we do it already.

Back to topic. It would be good if the graphical options would be done via GUI and not a separate file. Not all know about this and for sure causes frustration among them when other players have tweaks giving them an edge of some sort in game play. As said before, either a good guide how to or GUI to tweak those settings that are supposed to be tweaked. Rest locked out of user's reach.

[Zapmunk]

I just hope they don't remove the ability to change the fov and depth of field. I can't play with dof or an fov lower than 90, my eyes get sore after half an hour otherwise.

[HTTP Error 400]

Learning more about your mech than a noob helps, so does learning how to set your PC up or the game itself. It's part of life. Live with it. OMG, you haxorz coz your CPU is overclocked, yadda, yadda, yadda.

Edited by HTTP Error 400, 23 February 2013 - 03:02 PM.

[SenseiDeath]

PSSST..... Move the post proccessing slider to low in the advance settings...

You can thank me later

[Larth]

@Hades Trooper: back in the good ol' FASA 1st edition tabletop game, they basically said everyone had some ecm, thusly stuu was more advanced but with all the electronic mumbo jumbo flying about, it dumbed things down. Yeah it was for simplicity and balance, but look at cell phones today. More electronics in an area tends to screw with reception. I just view my thermal from that perspective.

[F lan Ker]

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HTTP, not all have knowledge of this tweaking. Most gamers propably just install the game and set the settings in game and go on playing. I think the heavily tweaking crowd is a minority. There is no reason whatsoever to keep any information regarding this hidden from players. Or then devs should have thought of it while making the game, what can be tweaked and what not and how to implement it. Now it is like sorcery for many players out there, not so easy to do for many. So how should it be handled?

[Deamhan]

F lan Ker, on 23 February 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

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Deamhan, I really hope MWO does not turn to this what you described, CW with minor flavor added but same battling for win over and over again. Urgh, we do it already.

Back to topic. It would be good if the graphical options would be done via GUI and not a separate file. Not all know about this and for sure causes frustration among them when other players have tweaks giving them an edge of some sort in game play. As said before, either a good guide how to or GUI to tweak those settings that are supposed to be tweaked. Rest locked out of user's reach.

I hope it doesn't either....

With Day of Defeat, it got extremely bad. The game had weather effects, smoke and fire effects, smoke grenades, and yet people have tweaked these out of the game using console commands and changing config files. Allowing you to see farther, made it impossible for people to actually use smoke, shadows, fire, etc. as visual cover. People modified the **** out of it, and would discover setups that gave them an obvious edge. They would then safeguard their secret config setup because as soon as word spread and everyone started using it, they lost that edge.

It's a very disgusting meta game that needs to be stomped out.

Even look at the FOV that people casually throw out there as if it's no big deal that they do it...

http://en.wikipedia...._in_video_games

If I set my FOV higher than yours, if you try to come at me at a certain angle, I would see you coming at the side of my screen. Yet if I came at you at that same angle, I would be off your screen and you don't see me coming.

Think about it. I could set it wide enough that I can see out my side windows on my C1 without having to take control of the free look. So I can, at a mere glance, see if I'm getting flanked. With my C1, I could turn my torso and actually see directly behind me without taking control of the free look.

If you don't think that sound like cheating, you are quite messed in the head.