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[Hades Trooper]

feel free to express yourself, thats good. i personally still have a dual core and i bought a new video for myself for xmas so i can play this on full detail

what you getting wrong about me is you think i feel it's unfair. i'm not making a if it fair or not call, what my essense is that everyone should have equal knowledge of the games limits and restrictions rather than a small % of players having inside info. I like MWO, i like a lot of games i give my feedback and if the devs don't make it how i feel it's fair to people of all brackets of ability to have an even chance i move onto another game or wait like it did from MW4 for a newer version to come out and then try that out if i feel warranted.

blizzard blew there chance with me over D3, the new X-com is a fair game, not as in depth as the old version and just more flashy lihgts and bells and whistles for the price it was not good enough.

PGI make this pay to win and don't reduce there MC sost on mico transactions then i might walk from this also. till then as long as every knows the potential of what the system can do if up to each person to do how they like and if they need to upgrade to achieve that than so be it.

those people who play onn ultra low settings can if tey want i like my game pretty. i just want o be able to see and shoot as the range as they do so i don't feel like a fish in a barrel.

[Fooooo]

Deamhan, on 23 February 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

You're not understanding. I have been down this road, I know this road, I know exactly where it ends. And I know that's not where you want to be.. It's ugly, very ugly. It turned a great game into an anorexic shadow if it's former self. If it wasn't for the fact that Day of Defeat servers were player run and paid for, it wouldn't be possible to play it right now. There's no one but the die hard fans left there.

It starts with Fov but where does it stop?
Getting rid of the screen shake caused by weapons?
Getting rid of smoke and fire?
Getting rid of trees?
Get rid of weather effects?

Some of these games put hard caps on draw distances and they do it for good reason. Not everyones machine can handle it so to keep it fair, the draw distance is usually set for everyone to a default and can not be adjusted in the game's options for good reason. To keep it fair for those who's computer is not top of the line.

Snip!...

In any decently developed game, most of those things will not be changeable. Hence why there are a lot of locked settings right now.

If PGI restricted the drawdistance to 1000m or less just so its fair to someone playing on a pc under min spec what do you think would happen ??

What is the limit there ?
Where do they stop ?

Do all the buildings have to be low quality because we have to be 100% fair with every setting ?
What about restricting what resolution you can select because its an advantage using higher res than someone else.....im sure everyone would love running in 1024x768 all the time... (people complained about the opposite in IL2 because using lower res meant you could see planes a little bit easier from further away)

Obviously the things that can be abused get locked, hence only tweaks are really left. Some to inc performance on a slower machine, some to remove clutter someone doesnt like, or change colours of a HUD etc etc.

CFG's never ruined any decent fps. (I don't see what settings could have "ruined" DoD for you unless you played on servers that didn't lock the abuseable things..........)

In et you could lower your vertical sensitivity of the mouse on most servers, this was even allowed in comp games....but it was restricted so you couldn't stop all vertical movement via binding etc......


ET is still going, so is CS, so is DoD from what I can tell.........

[HC Harlequin]

What the OP is talking about is modifying the config file so it draws the mechs at extreme distances but doesn't draw any buildings or terrain so you can see the mechs through the buildings and walls and stuff like that. So you can see the mechs moving around behind hills and buildings and stuff like that.

[TOGSolid]

Noth, on 23 February 2013 - 01:09 PM, said:

I have just increased my FoV which is being added as a slider in game at some point.

Yup, same here and the only reason I did it was just because it makes the game look cooler and the camera feel more correct with where it's at once the pilot leans back after the startup sequence.

Modifying it beyond that to give yourself an advantage is just cheap though.

Edited by TOGSolid, 24 February 2013 - 12:22 AM.

[Rahnu]

Eh, I only use a config to improve the visuals. That has a high priority for me.

[Aym]

I took off grain, widened the field of view so I could see my cockpit more, I feel it looks better, more immersive, better feel for the scope of my giant stompy robot. Never heard about clearing up thermal though.

[MW Waldorf Statler]

Deamhan, on 23 February 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Get over yourself and remove your head from your *** you pompous ******* *****. If you were given just a helmet and a jersey to put on over regular clothes and put on a team with the same, and you had to face a team with full pads, helmet, cleats, etc. you would certainly cry foul. Most people that play don't even bother coming to the forums. They don't even know that the user.cfg file even exists. This is a game and it is far from unreasonable to ask for an even playing field.

Knowing config changes, min/max builds, ECM, etc. These are things that need to be addressed. There are far more casual players out there than there are hard core players. All these things do is cater to the hard core players and what do they do? They stomp on the casuals where the casuals don't enjoy the game and quit. These are also people who don't give a crap about immersion, or canon, or anything of that sort. They only care about e-peen stroking and winning at any cost. Then when something new comes along, they show a complete lack of loyalty as they move on to the next FPS game and repeat the cycle.

PGI would do very well to listen to those who have read all the books, played all the games, have played TT, etc. Not these FPS fanboys. Hate to burst your bubble...no that's not true, I love to burst your bubble but just because you play first person shooters doesn't put you above the rest of the gaming community. You're as much a gamer geek as someone who plays WoW.

For all this poor Casuals is better to play Single Player Games ...you will not win and play with better Gamers , Who the heck you play Multiplayergames ?if you want to pick flowers, do not go to a football field during a game

[Darkfire66]

Hades Trooper, on 23 February 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

oh great i downloaded a notepad version that's giving my pc a friggin adware bug. this is why is don't like having to change things around myself and not whats comes in the box itself. as my windows 7 version only had wordpad and it didn't seem to have anything but an empty page, so i used notepad as people said would open it and now this happens.

This is why stuff like this should be an in game thing. I keep away from websites i don't normal know and my stupid spyware firewall didn't detect anything but it's change my post for the word game- now needs - on the ned of it, or it changes into a hyper link and pops up an ad.

testing it out to see how much this fov improves things to spread the word.

and now this happens, Fudge me friggin sideways!

Download malwarebytes to clean it off your computer, then try drive.google.com and click create to type documents. both tools are free = )

[xxREVxx]

Hades Trooper, on 23 February 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

oh great i downloaded a notepad version that's giving my pc a friggin adware bug. this is why is don't like having to change things around myself and not whats comes in the box itself. as my windows 7 version only had wordpad and it didn't seem to have anything but an empty page, so i used notepad as people said would open it and now this happens.

This is why stuff like this should be an in game thing. I keep away from websites i don't normal know and my stupid spyware firewall didn't detect anything but it's change my post for the word game- now needs - on the ned of it, or it changes into a hyper link and pops up an ad.

testing it out to see how much this fov improves things to spread the word.

and now this happens, Fudge me friggin sideways!

[Ghogiel]

I would probably have quit MWO if I couldn't turn off mouse sensitivity and mess with mouse smoothing. It was horrific when I reinstalled the whole game from scratch this last patch, to find out all my settings were wiped.

[Mycrus]

modified config file just to make joystick work... that's it...

[Lorcan Lladd]

Hm.
I use a cheap 800 DPI optical mouse so I really wouldn't know what you mean about sensitivity in MWO.
My configuration file removes most or all post-processing and far distance rendering for increased performance on my age-old rig.

Edited by Lorcan Lladd, 24 February 2013 - 04:25 AM.

[Taemien]

Deamhan, on 23 February 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

I'll say it again. IT IS CHEATING until a Dev comes on here and explicitly states that "it is for the user to make whatever changes they see fit". Until that time, if it was meant to be adjusted, it would be in the game options. If the devs plan to implament it later, then it become available at that time, not sooner.

At that time, I will be officially done with the game. Console commands and modifying files is a game killing meta game. It absolutely ruined DoD it will do the same here. The only people that have the patiance to bother playing this meta game are those that will eventually get bored and move on to the next new shiny FPS.

Oh and let the forum moderators do the forum moderating.

If you honestly think its cheating, then report them and be done with it. If you're not going to report them then [REDACTED] I will follow my own advice. Take that as you will.

Edited by Viterbi, 26 February 2013 - 08:03 AM.
Removed suggestive content

[Dueliest]

This isn't complicated people. Modifying game files(or others) to gain an unfair advantage in game is cheating. If a racer modifies their vehicle against the rules to gain an advantage its cheating. If an athlete modifies their body against the rules its cheating. The point of a competition is to ensure that both sides have an equal chance of wining. That's not the case if one makes beneficial modifications and the other doesn't.

[Serapth]

I hadnt bothered changing any of these settings until a few minutes ago.

FoV is mostly an opinion thing, you can get more on screen potentially, but risk throwing up. I am really infleunced by FoV, such that Space Marine, Dead Island and a few other games were basically unplayable for more than 10 minutes at a time.

I did how turn of depth of field and this is a MASSIVE advantage. Ever wondered how people were able to snipe body parts out 1000+m and you only see a blurry mess? I also cleaned up nightvision and its also a huge help.


Dunno... giving myself a big advantage over other players by tweaking config files... feels a lot like cheating. On the other hand, it also makes warts in the game much less awful.

[HeadNotFound]

FOV is the only thing I have adjusted In my user config. Mainly because the standard FOV makes it feel like I have my face firmly pressed against the cockpit windshield. =/

[Walk]

Hades Trooper, on 23 February 2013 - 01:05 PM, said:

Seems it's becoming a lot more common the amount of people who accurately snipe at over 1400 metres on the basic maps which have poor visibility.

Reduce the mouse input speed to get better accuracy and change the vision so thermal is clear out to 1600 metres.

I've been offered to do it myself but to me it feels like it's wrong.

While the people who use it counter by saying it's dialing in. Well if you change the game in a way that's not a setting and using it to get an advantage to me seem to fall into the same gray as an aimbot, but without the tag of being a hack

If the devs wanted us to mod the config file, it would be an in game option, not something you need tools to do on the net and the knowledge to do which a lot of just for fun gamers don't know.

Steel and metals i know being a boilermaker, but pc's, i turn on, and play games as intended by the dev's.

Dude, its literally the "user configuration". It's designed so you can edit the configurations to make the game more playable for you, personally. A lot of the options aren't available in the ingame option screen because the average user base doesn't know what an FoV is, or any of the other little things. You have to make this game accessible,so, for the average user, the options menu will have most options, but for those of us who know games well and want to tweak the settings to exactly what we want, we can edit this file. It's not cheating unless you are modifying actual game files, but user.cfg was included specifically for this reason, so the devs wouldn't add anything there that they would consider cheating.

Also, a lot of things that are "off" or limited by default are because of hardware limitations. If PGI knew everyone who played this game had a 4000$ monster PC, they could make it so the draw distance spanned the length of every map by default. Instead, the average user plays on a TI-89, so the default configurations HAVE to be able to accommodate this. Make this a visible option in the menu, and the average user will turn it up all the way, then complain on the forums that his PC can't handle it. It's a real problem, we see people moaning every day about how they get low framerates and junk and blame PGI when they are running the game on a PC I wouldn't even use as a calculator.

Hope this helps you with your little "cheating" dilemma.

Edited by Walk, 24 February 2013 - 03:50 PM.

[liku]

So. Dear fellow Mechwarrior pilots, what are your favorites usercfg?

[Texugo87]

Er...various commands have been locked out of the user config, meaning even if you change them, they do nothing. Also the dev's have said we are free to change the user config as we like. Ergo, anything not locked out of the user config = not cheating. Or in your logic am I cheating by using a mouse that has a button which changes DPI, allowing me to switch on the fly between fast movements and accurate sniping? Also the changes that "clean up" thermal vision don't make it particularly easier to use, just look better...

[Hades Trooper]

HC Harlequin, on 24 February 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

What the OP is talking about is modifying the config file so it draws the mechs at extreme distances but doesn't draw any buildings or terrain so you can see the mechs through the buildings and walls and stuff like that. So you can see the mechs moving around behind hills and buildings and stuff like that.

I want to have a fov that i can see and shoot at the ranges i'm getting shot at. i still want to see trees and all the other things as well.

Just before the change i was at a spot where i'm like ok, if anything moves this way i;ll see them coming, then bam, i'm hit and i'm like i can't even see anything on the screen yet being fired on?

No my 1st reaction wasn't a hack, i was like how do these people have the game set so they can do this? The people started to talk about rumours that skilled pc users who know more than just playing a game and good mech designs had an advantage over me cause of setting and changing config files. then i was offered a link to a file that said it cleared up vision haze, made zoom highly visiable and thermal vision could clearly outline mechs at 1600 metre.

So i wanted to know how many people had done this and maybe if it was a fairly common thing, those with this knowledge would be kind enough to share with all least the other community members who do like the game enough to visit the forums a little.

i play quite a few games and also have real life commitments, i can spend a little time on all the games i play forums and learn what i think i need to know to be a good to great player, while still getting enough time to play the games.