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#1 Jam the Bam

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:26 AM

Is there any form of chat filter in MWO?

I had a game this morning where a player on the other team apparently didn't like having his arse handed to him and proceeded to tell us in very graphic terms what he thought about it.

Now I know people are disappointed when they lose but is there any way to filter out some of the inane and insulting drivel you receive from certain players?

#2 MadPanda

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:30 AM

You can install one in your brain. It works for every game.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:51 AM

But PANDA!!?! If I can't replace those evil un-christian words with stars, I'll go to hell! :'( Replacing them with stars will make me think they're not there.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:59 AM

Not that I know of....

and dont listen to those 2 guys that just posted they are just *()&)(* and _)*(_)*( up their #$#$# with #&*()_ in the #$**((

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:02 AM

View PostBatabusa, on 27 February 2013 - 02:51 AM, said:

But PANDA!!?! If I can't replace those evil un-christian words with stars, I'll go to hell! :'( Replacing them with stars will make me think they're not there.


Abusing Poe's law, are we?

Anyways, the best filter is to just ignore them. It's not like anything they'll say matters. They'll get over it. Or not. It really is irrelevant.

Next time someone starts foaming out of the mouth, tell them "It's a game, not a ****. Stop taking it so hard."

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:07 AM

Grab a screenshot and report them for it.

#7 Jam the Bam

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 03:40 AM

Think Ill have to go to the suggestion forum, even WoT's manages to add a filter (though they REALLY need it over there).

I prefer the GW2 way which just replaces any swear words in the forums with 'kitten', could do that in MWO with 'urbanmech'....

Screw you, urbanmeching urbanmechs.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:18 AM

Now if only there was a filter to filter out everything capellans say

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:31 AM

There is a simple solution to this Problem:

Ask the developers to "SILENCE the DEATH"

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:33 AM

Profanity filters are a pain in the *** really. They are easily circumvented. Most of the time you can tell the word by context and number of *s. Pretty often legitimate words are filtered because they might be an insult in some exotic language that for unknown reason is filtered aswell or legitimate words get filtered because part of them is an insult. Like "cockpit" for having a "****" in it.

Profanity Filters are an obsolete and useless concept to protect children from words they already know and those poor souls that are telling them selfes that they feel offended by hearing some random unkown person in the internet swearing.

#11 Rattazustra

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 04:46 AM

Since times immemorial people used profanity filters in reality and it never worked out.

What else do you think goshdarnit is supposed to be? :)

Eventually, those who WANT to be profane will always find a way to do it and on top of that, what constitutes profanity is not a universal code. A word that offends one person is completely normal to the next. Something that is okay to say in one place is unacceptable in another. The F-word and the N-word for example. :)

Eventually, the best profanity filter is people who speak their mind and that includes those who say "Less profane, please" when they feel like it. Social education works through example and collective correction, bot by putting black bars and stars over words.

#12 Jam the Bam

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:17 AM

Ok so what i have concluded from this so far:

People should be allowed to call me a 'B****** N***** F***face' (obviously without the stars) repeatedly for the duration of the game and its my fault for being offended by this, and since he's dead and I'm alive there is no way to avoid this apart from leaving the game.

You guys are starting to prove why the internet is such a crap filled place. Time to go play something else.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:23 AM

View PostJammerben87, on 27 February 2013 - 05:17 AM, said:

Ok so what i have concluded from this so far:

People should be allowed to call me a 'B****** N***** F***face' (obviously without the stars) repeatedly for the duration of the game and its my fault for being offended by this, and since he's dead and I'm alive there is no way to avoid this apart from leaving the game.

You guys are starting to prove why the internet is such a crap filled place. Time to go play something else.

Ignore it? There are plenty of offensive things all over the internet and you seem to ignore them just fine. Apply that policy to the 7 year old that profanity spams in game.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:24 AM

View PostMadPanda, on 27 February 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

You can install one in your brain. It works for every game.


I'll try that when my 11 year old walks by, looks over my shoulder.

A great number of games have it installed. why not here?

#15 Jam the Bam

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:25 AM

View PostThatDawg, on 27 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:


I'll try that when my 11 year old walks by, looks over my shoulder.

A great number of games have it installed. why not here?


Exactly, people say ignore it, but thats kinda hard when its splashed across my screen in capitals, as I said above, the only way to ignore this is to leave the game. Which is the point of profanity filters.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:30 AM

View PostJason Parker, on 27 February 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:



Profanity Filters are an obsolete and useless concept to protect children from words they already know and those poor souls that are telling them selfes that they feel offended by hearing some random unkown person in the internet swearing.


Really? Useless? How depressing that attitude must be.
I'm 54, and have had a sordid life at points-meaning vulgar, violent and profane behavior isn't a stranger, and I really dont care to see some brain dead mouth breathing unemployed emo living in moms basement hurl profanity for any reason.
Its the same reason I pay EXTRA to live in a better part of town.

selfes?

#17 Chrithu

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:41 AM

View PostThatDawg, on 27 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:


I'll try that when my 11 year old walks by, looks over my shoulder.

A great number of games have it installed. why not here?


Unless you are teaching him at home I'd bet a month's wage that he already has heard any kind of profanity one can imagine.

Before you ask: No I do sadly not have kids. But thinking back to when I started to know swearwords and started to use them when I am amongst people my age I know that the internet has freaking nothing to do with children picking up that crap.

Why am I arguing here anyways? Profanity filter is fine with me. I'm just saying it's obsolete not working waste of time to install one. The only valid function it might have is to make it possible to enforce a rule about circumventing it. Which changes about nothing. Because insults per Code of Conduct already are a reportable banable violation and in case of circumventing the filter obviously nothing get's filtered as it is the whole point of circumventing it.


Edit: I'll make an example to maybe get across my point better:

If someone says "Your mother is a ...", you want to seriously say there is a difference if the actual swearword is readable in plaintext or replaced by the according number of stars? You still know what he said. And you still will feel offended if insults from random people you do not know are able to get at you. The thing is that human beings are too smart for profanity filters to work. That's because reading is not a matter of piecing the indivudual bits of info the letters are together but much more a process of image and pattern processing. Tihs is aslo why you are pfretcely albe to raed tihs stnteecne.

Edited by Jason Parker, 27 February 2013 - 05:52 AM.


#18 Jam the Bam

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:49 AM

How about simply one that you can turn off?

For those that think its obsolete (replaced by what?) you can read all the crap.

For the rest of us we can have more pleasant lives.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:56 AM

View PostThatDawg, on 27 February 2013 - 05:24 AM, said:


I'll try that when my 11 year old walks by, looks over my shoulder.

A great number of games have it installed. why not here?


Why don't we censor all **** as well then? Imagine what would happen if your 11 year old would walk by when you were watching ****. What's that? You don't watch adult material when your 11yo could walk by? Well why are you playing online games that are rated Teen when your 11yo is around? Don't blame the game for the exposure, blame yourself.

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:07 AM

View PostMadPanda, on 27 February 2013 - 05:56 AM, said:


Why don't we censor all **** as well then? Imagine what would happen if your 11 year old would walk by when you were watching ****. What's that? You don't watch adult material when your 11yo could walk by? Well why are you playing online games that are rated Teen when your 11yo is around? Don't blame the game for the exposure, blame yourself.



Sorry but that's unfair. It's absurdly unrealistic to think responsible parents should be able to protect their children from seeing profanity at all times. In the same way it is unrealitic to think that profanity filters in games could protect children from picking up profanity. The main source of that allways was and allways will be other (maybe older) kids on the schoolyard, the playing ground and whatnot. And in my book it's much more responsible to be aware of it and teach your children those are insulting words that one does not use, than trying to resort to filtering and censorship and saying that's it my kid can not pick up those words anymore, problem solved.

Edit: Just to make it clear. This is not sarcasm. I mean it that way.

Edited by Jason Parker, 27 February 2013 - 06:08 AM.






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