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[ElLocoMarko]

PGI can nerf it if they want me to stop running boated SRM.
I just loaded up dual LRM15 and quad SSRM and three out of four games was just watching while the battle progressed. You cannot run these weapons in PUG... they are useless 50% of the time. Put a TAG-Only mount on the A1 and I'll try again with other loadouts. But I need to be able to shoot at the people shooting at me.

But nope. Blame the Cicada 3M that followed me all over the map !without shooting! for my angry switch. With SRM it would have been a really dead bug. Instead, I got griefed.

[Death Weasel]

So you are mad that an enemy player used smart tactics to negate you as an opponent, and exploited the obvious flaws in the mech you loaded?
Why?
Would you be complaining if you we're the one to exploit their mistake?
Just asking?

[Ghogiel]

I love it when they make threads on the forum when their LRM or SSRM catches a case of ECM impotence.

Edited by Ghogiel, 03 March 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[Baltasar]

Instead of streak add regular srms. They are dumb fire so unaffected by ECM. Jump Jets on the A1 can help as well since, depending on the map, you can run and get away from mechs that don't have Jump Jets.

[Royalewithcheese]

Shoulda gone for the DFA mang.

But yeah generally it's a good idea to avoid stacking weapons that all fail in the same situation.

[ElLocoMarko]

No I tried NOT to run a cheese build but of three kinds of missile weapon present, not have an energy hard point... I can only reliably fire one of them.

It's the streak-ECM interaction. Streaks were brought into the world so that light mechs would keep their distance.
And you also miss that the Cicada DID NOT SHOOT ME. That's not tactics. That's griefing.

It's a rage post... I'd delete it now if I could.

[Antony Weiner]

Lack of TAG- and NARC-specific white hardpoints is depressing.

[urmamasllama]

the only time i have an issue with ecm with my A1 Build is when a four man ecm LANCE drops against me. one or two raven pugs are no probelm and while ecm does need to be nerfed its not as bad as a lot of you make it out to be

[Moonsavage]

I have used this setup too - it's not bad if you stick with a D-DC or your PPC K2

[GhostFacedNinja]

Although to be fair, if you do not get ECM locked. LRM + SSRM combo can do horrible things to people. A friend of mine was actually running it earlier as he doesn't like Splatcats. And until he did start getting locked out he was slaying all over the place. Difficult to balance really. It's over powered or totally useless basically.

[Antony Weiner]

Put some PPCs on it.

[Baltasar]

ElLocoMarko, on 03 March 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

No I tried NOT to run a cheese build but of three kinds of missile weapon present, not have an energy hard point... I can only reliably fire one of them.

It's the streak-ECM interaction. Streaks were brought into the world so that light mechs would keep their distance.
And you also miss that the Cicada DID NOT SHOOT ME. That's not tactics. That's griefing.

It's a rage post... I'd delete it now if I could.

To be fair to the cicada, he was actually doing his job. He may have not been killing you but he was harrasing an LRM mech by using his ECM. Kinda his job as a fast/scout type mech.

[Stone Profit]

ElLocoMarko, on 03 March 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

PGI can nerf it if they want me to stop running boated SRM.
I just loaded up dual LRM15 and quad SSRM and three out of four games was just watching while the battle progressed. You cannot run these weapons in PUG... they are useless 50% of the time. Put a TAG-Only mount on the A1 and I'll try again with other loadouts. But I need to be able to shoot at the people shooting at me.

But nope. Blame the Cicada 3M that followed me all over the map !without shooting! for my angry switch. With SRM it would have been a really dead bug. Instead, I got griefed.

So you cant play. We get it.

[Yokaiko]

Stone Profit, on 03 March 2013 - 03:38 PM, said:

So you cant play. We get it.

If he has nothing but lock ons and that Cicada is 60kph faster, wtf is he supposed to do.

I would have picked him apart, but yeah.

[Stone Profit]

Yokaiko, on 03 March 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

If he has nothing but lock ons and that Cicada is 60kph faster, wtf is he supposed to do.

I would have picked him apart, but yeah.

Hes supposed to either A: pick weapos without lockon to supplement or B: learn to lock faster. His choice. His lack of those two things demonstrates his lack of ability to play properly.
TL:DR - Lock on weapons are for those who cannot aim.

[IceCase88]

I know it is a difficult concept for most on the forums to understand. However, I will throw it out there. Bring a BALANCED mech loadout to the game. Do not rage against a mech that performed its role and you brought nothing to counter it. Be mad at yourself for not going into battle prepared. Balanced builds are a novel concept it seems.

[Larth]

Stone Profit, on 03 March 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

TL:DR - Lock on weapons are for those who cannot aim.

Oh grooberbunkle, I've been doing it wrong this whole time. Well isn't that just a kick in a monkey's fuzzy armpit. Wish someone had told me sooner.

[Fate 6]

Stone Profit, on 03 March 2013 - 04:14 PM, said:

Hes supposed to either A: pick weapos without lockon to supplement or B: learn to lock faster. His choice. His lack of those two things demonstrates his lack of ability to play properly.
TL:DR - Lock on weapons are for those who cannot aim.

The amount of sheer retardedness and ignorance in the above quoted post makes me want to donate a lot of money that I don't have to an organization that helps these kids of people.

Maybe I'll just donate to the nearby highschool so more people, unlike this one, will stay in school. I don't remember the last time I was just so amazed at someones stupidity.

[Stone Profit]

Fate 6, on 03 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

The amount of sheer retardedness and ignorance in the above quoted post makes me want to donate a lot of money that I don't have to an organization that helps these kids of people.

Maybe I'll just donate to the nearby highschool so more people, unlike this one, will stay in school. I don't remember the last time I was just so amazed at someones stupidity.

I like how you insult rather than argue. Shows you KNOW you have no valid arguments. And you know what they say. Insults are the first resort of the small minded.

Larth, on 03 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

Oh grooberbunkle, I've been doing it wrong this whole time. Well isn't that just a kick in a monkey's fuzzy armpit. Wish someone had told me sooner.

well now you know that if you need to use lock on only weapons it shows you cant aim. And you know what GIJoe says :Knowing is half the battle.

[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

For your information EILocoMarko,

You're not running a "Splatcat" Full SRM load is Splat or Cheesapult. What you have is junk, at best its a ********** Streakapult! Try doing Artemis and 4 SRM with 2 LRM, yo might actually do something then, you do know that would mean getting into the battle though and keeping the target between 270m and 180m.