Royalewithcheese, on 05 March 2013 - 08:51 PM, said:
Glad you had the chance to experiment!
Yeah, I agree it still comes down to personal preference - definitely 3xSRM6, no Artemis is a great facehug SRM loadout
My best build, and new other really good build melted into one another last night, producing variations of each. I think I am back to not sure which is best. Not sure. Sometimes you just get bamboozled and it wasnt your build, you just got out thought/out played.
Am sticking with my 3x srm6 without artemis position. Also, sticking with the 350STD, that little speed boost really makes it such a treat to drive, and many times an opponent will try to circle me to negate my loadout entirely. I do much better at preventing that with the 350. Also, since I use Endo, the 4 engine slots are a huge plus. Finding my options for builds are limited at times by slots.
Thats what I know.
What I dont know is a much longer list.
ML vs MPL vs LL (leaning away from ML, I am ending up with available weight, but no slots on version A, so the MPL seem the better choice, plus they feel a little cooler to fire, like the ac20, just a cooler sound. The LL are vexing me. I love them, but they limit my other options alot. At one point to make them work, while desiring a decent ammo loadout, I went 2 x srm6+artemis, 2 LL, and the ac20. I liked that build alot but kept saying, I should have 3 srm6 this is wrong. Worked well though. Anyways that was all to keep the LL's. They let me peck at distance and I feel they do great up close too versus circling fasties. With an ac20 I lead and fire. Ideally the round lands and they catchup to the LL beam which I then follow on them for added damage. Then I try a leading SRM blast, and sometimes, can kill a light with those 2 vollies alone. Sometimes I can never finish them. So in sum, the 2MPL seem to benefit me over the 2LL due to better ammo loads for the ballistic and SRMs, but the LLs arnt bad either and make me more versatile. I LL at 200+, all the way out to 600-700, as I close distance when it is opportune. I am back and forth here. I wish I had more trigger discipline, I'd probably lean towards the LLs.) Funny side note, due to OCDish nature, must have the same laser type on each arm. I just cant do 1 LL+1 ML, or 1ML+1MPL. My head would explode. Wonder if anyone would support 1LL over 2MPL/2ML? Again it would bug me regarding OCD, but it would give me that versatility at distance. Just wonder if 1 LL is worth it. My own experience says no, but could use some input.)
AC20 vs Gauss (inherently better with ac20, but gauss has so many benefits, weight, dps, more ammo per ton, and
seems to last as long. The ac20 has benefits too dont get me wrong. 20 dmg to one spot, it seems to be my killshot when I carry it, quite often. Its a nice compliment to LLs as I close in, and is more of the lead weapon when using the MPLs.)
p00k, on 06 March 2013 - 01:02 AM, said:
hardly. i hunt gauss rifles in atlas RTs, you get a free +20 damage more often than not, which helps you take out a potentially big chunk of firepower between the gauss and whatevers on that right arm.
This is another issue, maybe my testing method is bad, as in some random matches im vsing good, and at other times bad players. Hard to know, but sometimes I get schooled, and my super great run might have been a series matches vsing low elo opponents. I say they last the same amount of time, but perhaps vs you p00k Id want to favor the ac20? Can you expand on this some, 20 damage? Seems you know alot more about this than I do.
Armor, very situational. I tend to favor armor distribution like Panda's. However, at times shaving the legs, and or arms seems like a great way to get a ton or 2. Sometimes I have taken the armor pretty low, low 400s for weight. At worst it was 415ish when I had 2 LL, 3 SRM6, and the Gauss. I dont mind shaving the legs or arms as long as I control where I fight. Problem is, where I fight isnt always under my control. One time a LRM volley, my fault, nailed me and blew my leg Gauss ammo in one volley. After that I took some ammo off and added more weight to the legs. It only happened once, but it did happen. On one of the versions I use almost all tonnage for armor, due to a lack of slots preventing me from using it in other ways. My best version and Best version variant both float in the 500s, one high, one low.
ECM, this thing drives me crazy. Sometimes alpine, omg why didnt I bring it. Im dead here without it, and so dependant on teammates. Other times I do great in it there, ECM or not. I got this idea when a teamamte got made fun of in all chat for not havingit on his DDC on Alpine, then we won, and he had 900+ damage at the end. On the flip side of the coin, sometimes, powering down/running dry on missle/ballistic ammo I say, oh man why did I bring ECM Im brawling and needed more ammo/more cooling. Again like my armor issues, its situational benefits keep me guessing as to whether I want it. My rule of thumb is if I have enough ammo (which I run light on), and my cooling is ok, then I will add it. I put in center torso when I have it, despite Pandas good advice. For me, I hate wasting 1/2 ton on a case and find it better to put my ammo in the legs and arms. Not always possible. My apex build uses it, usually, and my best variant does not, usually. What are your thoughts guys?)
So, overall that is what I have got so far. Any thoughts? Comments? Lot of people to thank so far. Hawkwings your post was the starting pointfor me, and just looking at it minutes ago I am considering giving it another try without the Artemis. Royale, l would like to hear your thoughts on all of this. You helped me alot, hope you have some comments. Sniper yours as well. Panda, absolutely. Please weigh in and feel free to be harsh.
I know I break some of your advice made in your own detailed thread. I very much respect your opinion and did not care for how you were flamed in that thread. Basically, to every poster in this thread except the flame posters (mainly one guy), thanks for the input. Please dont feel jaded if I didnt mention you by name. I have read every post here, some 10 times. I have considered everything said. I appreciate all your input community.
I am.
Edited by I am, 06 March 2013 - 07:13 AM.