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[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

van Uber, on 05 March 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

I understand it, perhaps it is you who should re-read. To quote Paul: "The C-Bill version of coolant flushes will allow 2 uses during a match."

Again, in what way is the ability to flush twice during a game a disadvantage?

Nope, read it again until you actually understand it.

[Fabe]

van Uber, on 05 March 2013 - 06:47 AM, said:

I understand it, perhaps it is you who should re-read. To quote Paul: "The C-Bill version of coolant flushes will allow 2 uses during a match."

Again, in what way is the ability to flush twice during a game a disadvantage?

That's One flush at 15% and another flush at 20% .

Edited by Fabe, 05 March 2013 - 06:56 AM.

[Esplodin]

Edited by Esplodin, 05 March 2013 - 06:58 AM.

[van Uber]

Narcisoldier, on 05 March 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

Nope, read it again until you actually understand it.

I'll make this really easy for you:

How many times per game can you use c-bill coolant?

[HugoStiglitz]

Narcisoldier, on 05 March 2013 - 06:53 AM, said:

Nope, read it again until you actually understand it.

"The C-Bill Purchased Coolant Flush will allow a player to trigger a coolant flush twice during a match."

My question, did YOU read it?

[Fabe]

van Uber, on 05 March 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

I'll make this really easy for you:

How many times per game can you use c-bill coolant?

How much heat reduction do you get for each of those flushes?

Edited by Fabe, 05 March 2013 - 07:00 AM.

[DESTROYER3]

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More dense asstards crying P2W, well kiddos under your stupid logic you know the kind that makes you asstards to begin with I present you with;
Hero mechs unattainable variant to the free2cry kiddos even has 30% more cbills per match
Premium Time unattainable except through the rare 1 day special provides 50% more cbils + 50% more EXP

Combine a Hero and Premium Time and you have P2W because we will have more cbills to play around with and faster gains on MXP and GXP

Ohh then there is the mechbays that free2cry babies can not ever get unless they support a game they love to mooch off of.

I am sorry but basic math and understanding states that the cbill version is better however you sacrifice a module.(refers to coolant)

Now please quit being asstarded free2cry ********

Do you even read what you type before you post it? Yes Hero mechs are in a gray territory (though they are really close to pay-to-win), however what you stated refers to how fast you can unlock upgrades and buy mechs/equipment, and it does not affect your ability to play in game. And before you state that "Well you can unlock the basic, elite, and master tiers faster." it is only faster, you still have to play the game to unlock them in the first place. Once in game, your premium time does not affect your gameplay. Also if you’re going to use a phrase "I am sorry but basic math and understanding..." then can you please write your posts using some brain power? I know you clearly have lots of money to spend so that you can feel better about yourself when you "pwn some noobs", but I would actually like to play a game where skill is greater than a players cash. By the way, your only "sound" argument is that you can use the c-bill coolant flush twice. While I cannot say this balances it, it does make it less pay-to-win. The problem lies with future consumables, which MC versions will allow you to have more of them on a mech then those who bought the c-bill versions.

[Matt Minus]

Bromineberry, on 05 March 2013 - 06:33 AM, said:

That was close. I wanted to spend money on MCs last week for the first time, but because I recently have so little time to play and so much to do, I postponed it. Now I will postpone it even more, simply to wait and look where this is going. If cooland flush and consumables in general will be implemented in the game in the p2w way like it is planned, there is no way I will spend a single cent.

LOL! Sure you were. No one believes you, space poor.
We have to come up with a name for this species of rage post, because they sure have been popping up a lot lately.

[Chrithu]

van Uber, on 05 March 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

I'll make this really easy for you:

How many times per game can you use c-bill coolant?

One time each.

Meaning: 1 time 15% and one time 20%. Use both directly after each other to reach same effect as the MC coolant. Or split them up to safe you from overheat cooldown twice.

[SkkyHigh]

Esplodin, on 05 March 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

New Desktop Wallpaper FOR SURE!

[Grand Ayatollah Kerensky]

van Uber, on 05 March 2013 - 06:56 AM, said:

I'll make this really easy for you:

How many times per game can you use c-bill coolant?

This question has been answered on this page by other users.

[RG Notch]

Well I'm against P2W consumables, I didn't see anything announced so far that sounds like P2W to me, so I'm all good.

[Iacov]

of course i voted YES,
because as soon as i am able to buy that stuff, i'm gonna pay2win the cr*p out of MWO - because i'm willing to pay for my virtual victories and the devs think it's a great idea for them to make money! win/win
hurray!

of course i voted NO

Edited by Iacov, 05 March 2013 - 07:06 AM.

[van Uber]

Fabe, on 05 March 2013 - 06:59 AM, said:

How much heat reduction do you get for each of those flushes?

Like Jason Parker explains it:

Jason Parker, on 05 March 2013 - 07:02 AM, said:

1 time 15% and one time 20%. Use both directly after each other to reach same effect as the MC coolant. Or split them up to safe you from overheat cooldown twice.

But my main question, that Narcisoldier seems incapable of answering, is if that ability, unique to c-bill coolant should be classified as a disadvantage?

If not, is it instead a direct advantage, something not possible to do with mc coolant?

I think it is fair to debate the pros and cons of each and not just stare blindly at the pros of one module. A thing I think is lacking so far in this thread.

Edited by van Uber, 05 March 2013 - 07:09 AM.

[Livewyr]

RG Notch, on 05 March 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

Well I'm against P2W consumables, I didn't see anything announced so far that sounds like P2W to me, so I'm all good.

This.

I'm a little taken aback, usually, RG and I are.. well.. inhospitable and never in agreement.

[Huntsman]

My biggest concern, oddly enough, is that it will be executed in a campy way. I remember after MW2 came out, they released a laughable playstation version with "power ups." I don't want to play "Super Mech Bros." I don't want something like a module that magically fixes a mech with the push of a button.

If it makes some level of sense then I'm somewhat ok with it. Can you use a module to call for a mechwarrior 3 style mobile field base into which you have to walk into and power down...I mean even that is a little cheesy that in under 30 seconds a mech that was falling apart can be restored to full health...but I'll suspend a level of disbelief so long as I'm not fighting someone and then suddenly in the middle of a furball, with his guns blazing, his red CT suddenly turns a healthy green.

Edited by Huntsman, 05 March 2013 - 07:13 AM.

[Nasty McBadman]

I prefer to call it "POOR 2 LOSE". I am fairly certain that a team of well trained space poor in a flock of raven 3-Ls could still crunch " Daddy WarBux in an Fatlas" Lance even after the patch. We shall see.

[Bromineberry]

Matt Minus, on 05 March 2013 - 07:00 AM, said:

LOL! Sure you were. No one believes you, space poor.
We have to come up with a name for this species of rage post, because they sure have been popping up a lot lately.

I don't care if you believe me or not. I planned to pay money, now I'm not. That's a fact.

[Icenein]

I think it's funny that PGI doesn't think it's P2W because it's separate but equal.

[YouMadQuiaff]

who is voting 'yes' to this poll? rhetorical people who either A. don't like the competitive scene (so they pay to get an advantage) or B. ..... I can't really come up with anything else (maybe they are the same ppl who want a 3rd person view implemented?