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[Eddrick]

Arm mounted shields and two handed weapons.

To my knowladge, neither exists in BattleTech.

[DarkDevilDancer]

You never know they may add the axeman or hatchetman at some point, both have big choppers.

[Rhent]

Eddrick, on 10 March 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Arm mounted shields and two handed weapons.

To my knowladge, neither exists in BattleTech.

Melee weapons exist in Battletech. The Hatchetman mech is a good example. For shields, there are mechs that typically have one arm that doesn't mount weapons that can be used as a shield. No such thing as a two handed weapon in the game.

[Chavette]

In QnA 32, they said melee is something they want to do, for mechs that have hands/fingers.
In QnA 33, they said they have no plans to introduce BattleAxe or such.

They seem like GFs with bad hair days

[Duncan Fisher]

If they don't exist in BattleTech, why would they exist in a completely BattleTech based game?

If you want gundam battles, go play gundam games

[Team Leader]

Uh, centurion?

Also, 2 things I miss: bombast laser, old gauss graphics
2 more things: vehicles (helis, jeeps, tanks, apcs), turrets

[stjobe]

A thing I miss: A viable Machine Gun.

Seriously, every other weapon got buffed in the conversion from BT to MWO, but the MG got nerfed. Why?

All ballistics got a DPS boost, with the heavier weapons getting less than the lighter, from a 2.5 x DPS boost on the AC/20 to a 20 x DPS boost on the AC/2, but the MG only got a 2 x boost? And every other ballistic weapon got about 50% more ammo per ton and 50% more damage per ton of ammo, but the MG got a 90% reduction in ammo per ton and a 80% reduction in damage per ton of ammo?

[Levi Porphyrogenitus]

Solaris VII does feature mechs with custom melee weapons and even arm-mounted shields. PGI has said they'd love to do a Solaris VII expansion eventually, and that they were going to hold off on adding hand-to-hand combat until then. That would include punches and kicks as well as hatchets and axes (and swords for those crazy DC pilots). Ramming will be back in once they get collisions working, and hopefully that'd include true Death from Above attacks.

[Chavette]

Team Leader, on 10 March 2013 - 03:23 PM, said:

Uh, centurion?

Also, 2 things I miss: bombast laser, old gauss graphics
2 more things: vehicles (helis, jeeps, tanks, apcs), turrets

LOL! Bombast + Jumpers would be the perfect combo!

[Sybreed]

viable machine guns/flamers would be nice...

[PapaKilo]

Eddrick, on 10 March 2013 - 03:19 PM, said:

Arm mounted shields and two handed weapons.

To my knowladge, neither exists in BattleTech.

And I, for one, hope they remain relegated to those other games. No MechWarrior computer game that I have played (every game in the series except MW1) has ever had melee, and it doesn't need to be added to this one. The only "melee" we need is collisions/knockdowns.

[Eddrick]

Levi Porphyrogenitus, on 10 March 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Solaris VII does feature mechs with custom melee weapons and even arm-mounted shields. PGI has said they'd love to do a Solaris VII expansion eventually, and that they were going to hold off on adding hand-to-hand combat until then. That would include punches and kicks as well as hatchets and axes (and swords for those crazy DC pilots). Ramming will be back in once they get collisions working, and hopefully that'd include true Death from Above attacks.

What are the arm-mounted shilds called. I couldn't find it anywere. I am also, aware that you can use your arms as a shield. I just can't remember seeing a Mech with arms much bigger then it's body from the side.

I know that critical slot splitting can let you split a weapons requiered critical slots across an arm and side torso. I don't know if you can split a weapon's requiered critical slots across both arms to make it two handed. Somthing, like the Sniper Artillery Piece comes to mind.

Edited by Eddrick, 10 March 2013 - 03:51 PM.

[stjobe]

PapaKilo, on 10 March 2013 - 03:46 PM, said:

And I, for one, hope they remain relegated to those other games. No MechWarrior computer game that I have played (every game in the series except MW1) has ever had melee, and it doesn't need to be added to this one. The only "melee" we need is collisions/knockdowns.

BattleTech, on the other hand had rules for
* Charging
* Kicking
* Punching
* Melee weapons (axes, swords, ripped-off Commando legs...)
* Death From Above

The devs have said collisions will come back with Charging, so we'll have that (and DFA). Kicking/Punching/Melee weapons have been rejected so far by the devs, but I still hold out hope that it'll be in some day.

Edited by stjobe, 10 March 2013 - 03:51 PM.

[Wintersdark]

Chavette, on 10 March 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

In QnA 32, they said melee is something they want to do, for mechs that have hands/fingers.
In QnA 33, they said they have no plans to introduce BattleAxe or such.

They seem like GFs with bad hair days

These two statements are not at odds. They want to do but do not have plans to do it. I'm sure there are lots of things they want to do but can't for one reason or another and as such have no plans to do them.

It's entirely reasonable.

[Khavi Vetali]

Chavette, on 10 March 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

In QnA 32, they said melee is something they want to do, for mechs that have hands/fingers.
In QnA 33, they said they have no plans to introduce BattleAxe or such.

They seem like GFs with bad hair days

The BattleAxe referenced in that question is an older, obsolete mech, replaced by the Hammerhands, which was in turn made obsolete by the Warhammer. The question in QnA 33 is not referencing melee combat in any form, but rather older tech levels and mechs.

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Battleaxe

[Eddrick]

stjobe, on 10 March 2013 - 03:50 PM, said:

* Melee weapons (axes, swords, ripped-off Commando legs...)

I forgot that a torn arm or leg can be used as a weapon. What fun that would be in a computer game.

[ciller]

This thread reminds me of a new anime called Broken Blade. Good mech battles, not too long of a series either.

[kuangmk11]

Duncan Fisher, on 10 March 2013 - 03:22 PM, said:

If they don't exist in BattleTech, why would they exist in a completely BattleTech based game?

If you want gundam battles, go play gundam games

er. they do both exist in Battletech, well no 2 handed melee that I can think of but one handed for sure

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sasquatch

http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Axman

They also said in ask the devs 32 that solaris might happen but not for another 12-18 months

[Avatara]

Eddrick, on 10 March 2013 - 03:56 PM, said:

I forgot that a torn arm or leg can be used as a weapon. What fun that would be in a computer game.

In Die by the sword you could use your own severed arm as a weapon.

[stjobe]

The Hatchetman was always one of my favourite mediums; a bit thin on the armour side, but it packed
* an AC/10 with two tons of ammo
* two Medium Lasers, and
* a Hatchet that did (45 / 5) = 9 points of damage to the upper torso of a 'mech.
* Jump Jets, for those DFA moments