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#41 OuttaAmmo NoWai

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:10 AM

Ever heard of the splatcat? -___-

#42 Lightfoot

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostJazzbandit1313, on 16 March 2013 - 07:47 PM, said:


Centurion CN9-A

FF
Endo-steel

1-lb10-x AC-2 tons ammo
3-SMR 6-3 tons ammo


How did you not run out of ammo? VS five mechs you must not have missed more than a few shots.

And, has missile fear grown so high that 3 SRM-6 is considered a boat? :D

#43 Commander Kobold

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:24 AM

View PostLightfoot, on 17 March 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:


How did you not run out of ammo? VS five mechs you must not have missed more than a few shots.

And, has missile fear grown so high that 3 SRM-6 is considered a boat? :D


I think boating has become synonymous with having more than 2 of weapon X

#44 Royalewithcheese

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:26 AM

View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:


I think boating has become synonymous with having more than 2 of weapon X


Haha I've even heard people calling dualguass and AC40 mechs "boats."

#45 Gaan Cathal

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:27 AM

View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:


I think boating has become synonymous with having more than 2 of weapon X


IF enemy killed me = YES
AND
IF enemy killed me with weapon I don't have = YES
THEN
enemy = OP cheezemonger

Edited by Gaan Cathal, 17 March 2013 - 11:27 AM.


#46 Rhent

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:54 AM

View PostTheMadTypist, on 16 March 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

There's a similar cookie-cutter build out there called the "Splat-Cent" which involves 3xSRM 6 and 2xML, but you don't see much complaining about it because most folks stacking that many SRM 6 usually just go straight up to the CAT-A1 to get more alpha and more tons to play with, resulting in the "Splat-Cent" 's relative rarity.

It is an ungodly pain to run into if you're in another medium 'mech, though.

Rarity? The majority of Cents I run up against are 2 ML + 3 SRM6 w/ standard engines.

#47 SmoothCriminal

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 11:56 AM

My cent has 3 SRM6s, 2 ML and an AC5, running with maxed armour, FF and an XL engine (100kph). It destroys most things that are the same size as it.

#48 Davers

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:00 PM

View PostAlistair Winter, on 16 March 2013 - 07:50 PM, said:

3 SRM6s in torso is OP, regardless of what other weapons you put on this mech. As is 3 x SSRM2s vs any light without ECM.

Which is why Commandos always hunt and kill Ravens, right? :D

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostSerapth, on 16 March 2013 - 08:34 PM, said:


An XL in a cent?

Is that entirely missing the point?


it must be so uncommon i NEVER get shot in the side torsos because everyone expects a standard?

I so rarely die to side torso loss with my XL Its all advantage for me

Only mechs I DONT run XLs on are assaults, criticize all you want ill take full speed+ a weapon in my arm over zombie torso cents erreday

#50 Rhent

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:04 PM

View PostSmoothCriminal, on 17 March 2013 - 11:56 AM, said:

My cent has 3 SRM6s, 2 ML and an AC5, running with maxed armour, FF and an XL engine (100kph). It destroys most things that are the same size as it.


As soon as I see a Cent w/ an AC and SRM's, I focus on the left torso for faster kill. As soon as I see a Cent w/o AC and SRM's, I know I have to remove the left torso and still deal w/ the 2 ML. Most people see the AC and go for the right arm immediately when the SRM's are the problem.

#51 Darzok

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:06 PM

It sounds like a mix of bad enemys and some luck and skill i have all so done a a 5 on 1 before with the CN9-A in the beta but that was luck due to the enemy players been poor.

I would just be happy with it and be like i am awesome till i get owned a few games later.

#52 Khobai

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:22 PM

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Rarity? The majority of Cents I run up against are 2 ML + 3 SRM6 w/ standard engines.


Yep its not rare at all. Its the most common Centurion build in the game.

Cent-A with 2 ML + 3 SRM6 + 275 std engine + ES + FF + 4 tons of ammo. Goes 98 kph, does 55 damage, basically outclasses a Dragon in every way despite the fact the Dragon has a 10 ton advantage. For the Dragon to be a viable mech, it has to be able to compete with the Cent-A, and it just cant, which is why nobody likes the Dragon.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4555b03b7dd20b8

Edited by Khobai, 17 March 2013 - 12:36 PM.


#53 Comguard

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:32 PM

My grandmother told me stories of this build and how old this buld was when she was young.

#54 Davers

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:33 PM

View PostKhobai, on 17 March 2013 - 12:22 PM, said:


Yep its not rare at all. Its the most common Centurion build in the game.

2 ML + 3 SRM6 + 275 std engine + ES + FF + 4 tons of ammo? Goes ~97 kph or so, does 55 damage, basically outclasses a Dragon in every way despite the fact the Dragon has a 10 ton advantage.

Well a Dragon can do that while carrying a gauss rifle, with some energy and some missiles as well. Besides, when Dragon tweaks come I am sure they may be up for a speed boost as well.

#55 Yokaiko

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:34 PM

View PostDavers, on 17 March 2013 - 12:33 PM, said:

Well a Dragon can do that while carrying a gauss rifle, with some energy and some missiles as well. Besides, when Dragon tweaks come I am sure they may be up for a speed boost as well.




A Dragon pulling enough weapons to hit 55 points alpha isn't running 97 kph, trust me I've tried.5

#56 Davers

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:46 PM

View PostYokaiko, on 17 March 2013 - 12:34 PM, said:




A Dragon pulling enough weapons to hit 55 points alpha isn't running 97 kph, trust me I've tried.5

What can I say? Missile weapons have the edge over everything else in this game. Even if SSRMs and SRMs were giving correct damage, it's still more than I thought it was. I was under the impression that a SRM did 2.5 damage divided into locations hit. Turns out it's 2.5 PLUS splash damage. 3 SRM6 are more powerful than 15 medium lasers. It's not really a surprise mechs that are 'missile light' don't seem to be performing as well as they should.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostLordBraxton, on 17 March 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

it must be so uncommon i NEVER get shot in the side torsos because everyone expects a standard?

Not really, because since the cent tends to carry a lot of weapons in its side torso, even with an XL blowing the left torso is often a smart move, since you generally will reduce it to only 2 medium lasers.

In the 9A, an XL is generally a bad move.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostRoland, on 17 March 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Not really, because since the cent tends to carry a lot of weapons in its side torso, even with an XL blowing the left torso is often a smart move, since you generally will reduce it to only 2 medium lasers.

In the 9A, an XL is generally a bad move.


I truly believe this comes down to play style, most CN9-As use their speed to get right up next to you and rip your back open with triples 6s, a valid tactic.

I Never close within 200 meters of an enemy mech if I can, use my UAC5\mediums combined with the accurate SRM4s I can wreck most enemy mediums if my positioning isnt ****, and its got wayyyy more range potential than the Cent Bomb with its UAC5

just because an XL engine sucks when you face hug doesn't mean it sucks.

Its shocking how many players CHOOSE to close within 150 meters of an enemy, when they are a faster mech, who could easily keep the fight at whatever distance they choose.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:03 PM

View PostOmni 13, on 17 March 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:


I think boating has become synonymous with having more than 2 of weapon X


I have seen someone complain about a Spider "boating" a single ERPPC. And he was serious.

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Posted 17 March 2013 - 01:19 PM

The triple ASRM-6 CN9-A is OP right now because missiles are broken. For the longest time, the CN9 was frowned upon as a poor chassis; I was called all manner of interesting things because I piloted on already in CB where the Hunchie ruled the medium weight class supreme.

Truth is, the CN9 is a solid, versatile chassis that can be tweaked into just about any role, and perform admirably if not at the very top tier, at least not far behind.

Again, it's OP right now because missiles do too much damage. Wait until April 3rd, and we'll see if the CN9-A is still considered OP.

Edited by stjobe, 17 March 2013 - 01:19 PM.






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