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[Moromillas]

Your exploding straight away has nothing to do with others firing missiles at you, and everything to do with how you are playing the game.

This kind of thread pops up a lot, but it's not because missiles are the be all and end all.

You just need to use the cover mechanics properly, saying you got hit with LRM's 'miles away' is embarrassing.

[Serapth]

Vassago Rain, on 19 March 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

Double armor is off, I think.

This almost feels right... ***** just blowing up wayyyyy too easy, all around.

[Roland]

Pyrrho, on 19 March 2013 - 05:18 PM, said:

Yes, so the splash damage is still an issue, but something else they fixed (perhaps the leg hitbox issue) is causing people's extremities to soak in more of that bad, unintended splash.

Heads are also taking far more damage from missiles. Not just lrms either, but srms as well.

[Zeus X]

Ya LRM's need a major nerf right about NOW!!!

[jakucha]

DCM Zeus, on 19 March 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

Ya LRM's need a major nerf right about NOW!!!

Not a nerf, a bug fix.

[Zeus X]

jakucha, on 19 March 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:

Not a nerf, a bug fix.

They need something quick, even cover is becoming useless if you have no legs to move.

[jakucha]

DCM Zeus, on 19 March 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

They need something quick, even cover is becoming useless if you have no legs to move.

SRMs need it too, but yeah. Hopefully they can put out a hotfix. People are going to be exploiting missiles for 2 weeks otherwise.

[Akulakhan]

You guys are tearing into this lil' bro for observing a bugged game mechanic introduced in this patch. Srsly? LRM damage has been stealth buffed this patch (more likely, a bug or a glitch) and he's rightfully pointing it out, chill.

[Commander Kobold]

DCM Zeus, on 19 March 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

They need something quick, even cover is becoming useless if you have no legs to move.

mostlikely we'll have to wait until april 2nd patch (until then I'm taking full advantage of it to famr me some easy CBills) I'll need them to get a direct fire mech after they nerf all the missiles into oblivion.

Edited by Omni 13, 19 March 2013 - 05:38 PM.

[Zeus X]

Omni 13, on 19 March 2013 - 05:37 PM, said:

mostlikely we'll have to wait until april 2nd patch (until then I'm taking full advantage of it to famr me some easy CBills) I'll need them to get a direct fire mech after they nerf all the missiles into oblivion.

Ya thats what I am going to do, get the stalker out and load it up with LRM 15's.

[Zyllos]

I personally wished they would reduced the LRM damage to 1.5 and increase it's speed.

[Jakob Knight]

Wait....the light mech pilots, the ones with the largest ability to defeat LRMs, are complaining because they are getting destroyed by LRMs, and it -isn't- the fault of the pilot?

Sorry, but splash damage or not, no light mech should be getting hit by LRMs unless they are doing something wrong, especially with so many light mechs sporting ECM. If you aren't getting hit, then what matter splash damage?

It -is- interesting that the devs put so much priority on fixing missile damage that can actually kill things, but refuse to lift a finger to adjust ECM. Apparently, it's only a problem if the LRMs work.

[Zeus X]

Jakob Knight, on 19 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Wait....the light mech pilots, the ones with the largest ability to defeat LRMs, are complaining because they are getting destroyed by LRMs, and it -isn't- the fault of the pilot?

Sorry, but splash damage or not, no light mech should be getting hit by LRMs unless they are doing something wrong, especially with so many light mechs sporting ECM. If you aren't getting hit, then what matter splash damage?

It -is- interesting that the devs put so much priority on fixing missile damage that can actually kill things, but refuse to lift a finger to adjust ECM. Apparently, it's only a problem if the LRMs work.

No

Atlas's are getting legged and headshot by missiles in general!

[Kaarde]

My Phract got taken out by a double volley of lrm 15's. Cored my CT and turned the head armor into confetti. Ams didn't do much to help. LRM's are in a bad state now.

Its going to be LRM city until they fix this. Already in 5 drops I've run into full teams with LRM boats. I swear I even saw a raven chucking lrm's.

[Psikez]

Jakob Knight, on 19 March 2013 - 06:08 PM, said:

Wait....the light mech pilots, the ones with the largest ability to defeat LRMs, are complaining because they are getting destroyed by LRMs, and it -isn't- the fault of the pilot?

Sorry, but splash damage or not, no light mech should be getting hit by LRMs unless they are doing something wrong, especially with so many light mechs sporting ECM. If you aren't getting hit, then what matter splash damage?

It -is- interesting that the devs put so much priority on fixing missile damage that can actually kill things, but refuse to lift a finger to adjust ECM. Apparently, it's only a problem if the LRMs work.

Not sure if troll

[Jakob Knight]

Kaarde, on 19 March 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

My Phract got taken out by a double volley of lrm 15's. Cored my CT and turned the head armor into confetti. Ams didn't do much to help. LRM's are in a bad state now.

Its going to be LRM city until they fix this. Already in 5 drops I've run into full teams with LRM boats. I swear I even saw a raven chucking lrm's.

Well, considering how few times you actually get to use LRMs, they do need to have this kind of effect if they are going to be worthwhile to mount. I went through about ten rounds tonight, and I got to fire my LRMs in two or three. Rest of the time, I couldn't fire a shot because one person had ECM.

Why should I put 18 tons of my mech's payload into a weapon that isn't supposed to be able to kill anything, especially if I'm only going to be allowed to shoot it every third or fourth game?

I understand this is a bug, but the fact that you actually have people using LRMs again after such a period of time where mounting any LRMs at all was seen as a handicap to your team tells me they did something right. If they do get rid of the splash damage, then they need to do something else to boost LRMs to make up for the huge disadvantages they have imposed on the system throughout the game.

Won't happen, of course. People are blind to the number of barriers LRM users face in this game, and only see that they are actually being hurt by them.

Psikez, on 19 March 2013 - 06:49 PM, said:

Not sure if troll

Then you should look in the mirror.

Seriously, all I have ever seen since day one of Closed Beta is "LRMs are hurting me! Make the Devs stop them so I don't have to worry about them!". It gets -very- tiring to see the trolls from Counterstrike who simply cannot deal with anything but brawlfests get their way in this game.

[Kaarde]

I don't mind being hurt by lrms. But 30 missles shouldn't core the ct and shred the head. If I'm caught in the open and eat volleys then that is just the breaks. But every match I'm in, be it with my phract or Trebuchet LRM's are tearing the hind end out of stuff that they shouldn't be.

When the missle boats are ending matches with over 1k damage consistantly then there may be a bit of a problem.

[blacklp]

i get the whole splash thing, but I am consistently being cockpit ANNIHILATED.
So yeah...

[Jakob Knight]

Kaarde, on 19 March 2013 - 06:59 PM, said:

I don't mind being hurt by lrms. But 30 missles shouldn't core the ct and shred the head. If I'm caught in the open and eat volleys then that is just the breaks. But every match I'm in, be it with my phract or Trebuchet LRM's are tearing the hind end out of stuff that they shouldn't be.

When the missle boats are ending matches with over 1k damage consistantly then there may be a bit of a problem.

And LRMs shouldn't be affected in the least by ECM. But, that's what the devs have decided should be the ultimate immunity shield against LRMs, so that's what it is. Based on the fact that the devs are not going to change this, how else do you make LRMs worthwhile to mount on your mech except to make sure that the very few times you get to fire them, they -hurt- in direct proportion to the number of times other weapons get to be used?

The problem is that if you want LRMs to be on the level of other weapons, you need to make them on the level of other weapons. If you want LRMs to have monumental challenges to their use, then you have to accept monumental effects when they are used. Anything else is just nonsensical.

[Royalewithcheese]

Edited by Royalewithcheese, 19 March 2013 - 07:05 PM.