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[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Tekadept, on 20 March 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

So are you saying TV Ratings mean absolutely nothing??

Yes, neilsen families dont work and are irrelevant

[Xmith]

Roadbeer, on 20 March 2013 - 09:36 PM, said:

Only 114 million out of 316 million people voted in the last U.S. Presidential election, yet we still have a President

And based on some of those poles, the outcome did not turn out the way they thought it would. That's why an actual vote is the only voice that matters.

[Volthorne]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Yes, neilsen families dont work and are irrelevant

Then why do stations/channels like TLC exist?

Edited by Volthorne, 20 March 2013 - 09:54 PM.

[Roadbeer]

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

I have an Idea, did anyone ever stop and think, "Hey, maybe they will add an option to enable 3rd person, and when you do, you ONLY play against other people using the 3rd person option. no way of changing back and forth in-game."?

I know I have, know why? I am a rational human being that THINKS about things instead of getting all uppity about NOTHING.

Yeah, because the matchmaking system now is working brilliantly, Lets pile more on to it.

[Dreamslave]

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

I have an Idea, did anyone ever stop and think, "Hey, maybe they will add an option to enable 3rd person, and when you do, you ONLY play against other people using the 3rd person option. no way of changing back and forth in-game."?

I know I have, know why? I am a rational human being that THINKS about things instead of getting all uppity about NOTHING.

You're being foolish. There is no way PGi can afford to further divide their playerbase. Use your head.

[Vassago Rain]

Volthorne, on 20 March 2013 - 09:50 PM, said:

By this friday. Red5 Studios will have completely overhauled their BattleFrame progression twice, and their crafting thrice. Does that mean the players of FireFall don't trust them? No, it just means that **** didn't work as planned, and needed to be fixed.

I'm not trying to defend PGI, I don't want 3rd person either (and there's a bunch of other **** I have a bone to pick with them for), but please try and use proper arguments and relevant examples.

I'm sure that company didn't say they weren't gonna do all those things, asked the users what they thought, assured everybody they wouldn't do it, then suddenly pulled it out of their rears - except the users had to find out about the plans on a third party site, because someone in the crew slipped up.

This isn't how you run a successful business.

[KylleX]

valkyrie, on 20 March 2013 - 09:52 PM, said:

Oh man, and you thought it took a long time to get into a match when ELO first came online? Hooboy.

That may be an issue, but it is really the only feasible way to implement the feature without ******* off everyone in the process more than normal. PGI is obviously proving they don;t give 2 craps about us overall, or our opinions, so why would they care about dividing the community between camera modes?

Edited by KylleX, 20 March 2013 - 09:56 PM.

[MegaBusta]

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

I have an Idea, did anyone ever stop and think, "Hey, maybe they will add an option to enable 3rd person, and when you do, you ONLY play against other people using the 3rd person option. no way of changing back and forth in-game."?

I know I have, know why? I am a rational human being that THINKS about things instead of getting all uppity about NOTHING.

Yep. That's definitely rational.

It's post-revelation rationalization.

[Mazzyplz]

Xmith, on 20 March 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

And based on some of those poles, the outcome did not turn out the way they thought it would. That's why an actual vote is the only voice that matters.

polls ARE votes in this forum.

you're thinking of polls where they question people on the street with obscure inquiries

[jakucha]

Vassago Rain, on 20 March 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

This isn't how you run a successful business.

That remains to be seen. I don't want third person either, but consider that this is a f2p game and f2p games don't operate on regular customers. Regardless of whether or not we like the decision, I bet they'll still be successful.

[Ignatz22]

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 09:51 PM, said:

I have an Idea, did anyone ever stop and think, "Hey, maybe they will add an option to enable 3rd person, and when you do, you ONLY play against other people using the 3rd person option. no way of changing back and forth in-game."?

I know I have, know why? I am a rational human being that THINKS about things instead of getting all uppity about NOTHING.

There IS a third person MechWarrior game, called "MechWarrior Tactics". Why would PGI waste the time and effort to program a SECOND GAME just for a minority of players? If they DID, are we to believe the resources needed to add and maintain it would not detract from the current MWO Beta? Here's a thought, if there are enough who want it, have THEM pay a SEPARATE Founder's fee, and have THEM join a separate set of Forums, teams and storyline....but wait, wouldn't it be EASIER just to let them play MechWarrior Tactics???

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Volthorne, on 20 March 2013 - 09:53 PM, said:

Then why do stations/channels like TLC exist?

Same reason Fox News does, its independantly owned?

KylleX, on 20 March 2013 - 09:55 PM, said:

That may be an issue, but it is really the only feasible way to implement the feature without ******* off everyone in the process more than normal. PGI is obviously proving they don;t give 2 craps about us overall, or our opinions, so why would they care about dividing the community between camera modes?

when they refuse to divide us from pugs and premades and have said as much in the past... then again we know what thrie word is worth now

[Roadbeer]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

Same reason Fox News does, its independantly owned?

Completely wrong. TheBlazeTV is independentaly owned and as of now, it's only on DiSH Network.
And speaking as a Neilsen home, your previous argument is fallacious as well.

[Rejarial Galatan]

Ignatz22, on 20 March 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

There IS a third person MechWarrior game, called "MechWarrior Tactics". Why would PGI waste the time and effort to program a SECOND GAME just for a minority of players? If they DID, are we to believe the resources needed to add and maintain it would not detract from the current MWO Beta? Here's a thought, if there are enough who want it, have THEM pay a SEPARATE Founder's fee, and have THEM join a separate set of Forums, teams and storyline....but wait, wouldn't it be EASIER just to let them play MechWarrior Tactics???

because they waste time and money. Repair and rearm went through multiple dev cycles, only to ultimately canned because of 'balance.' They are honestly trying to damage the game by doubling the code and making an already complex game even more so by doubling everything. big mistake by them.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Roadbeer, on 20 March 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

Completely wrong. TheBlazeTV is independentaly owned and as of now, it's only on DiSH Network.
And speaking as a Neilsen home, your previous argument is fallacious as well.

so youre saying you as a neilsen home ARE worthless? because I was being sarcastic

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Rejarial Galatan, on 20 March 2013 - 10:00 PM, said:

because they waste time and money. Repair and rearm went through multiple dev cycles, only to ultimately canned because of 'balance.' They are honestly trying to damage the game by doubling the code and making an already complex game even more so by doubling everything. big mistake by them.

Kinda starting to think this is less a game than a social experiment to see how much BS players will willingly go through and stay faithful

[Roadbeer]

Mechwarrior Buddah, on 20 March 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

so youre saying you as a neilsen home ARE worthless? because I was being sarcastic

missed the sarcasm

[Volthorne]

Vassago Rain, on 20 March 2013 - 09:54 PM, said:

I'm sure that company didn't say they weren't gonna do all those things, asked the users what they thought, assured everybody they wouldn't do it, then suddenly pulled it out of their rears - except the users had to find out about the plans on a third party site, because someone in the crew slipped up.

This isn't how you run a successful business.

Those changes sure as hell weren't originally intended. In fact, the upcoming changes are due to a PvE/PvP split, because crafting was making certain builds OP and others completely useless, which caused quite an uproar on the forums because crafting your gear for all aspects of FireFall was a huge draw. R5 now has to go back on this. I'd say that qualifies for something similar to what's going on right now.

This is getting off topic. Feel free to ignore me from now on.

Edited by Volthorne, 20 March 2013 - 10:04 PM.

[Asakara]

Infernus1986, on 20 March 2013 - 07:53 PM, said:

Wait what
Wasn't the 5+ Mill from founders money or does that not count.

To be fair, $5,000,000 divided by 45 staff (who need to be paid at least monthly) over 7-8 months + unknown bandwidth costs + unknown hardware costs does not end up being a lot of money.. And that does not factor in what IGP supposedly sent over to Tactics either.

[Mechwarrior Buddah]

Thontor, on 20 March 2013 - 10:01 PM, said:

why are people acting so surprised?

thx for that link so I could go ask there too lol