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#301 shabowie

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

I still don't understand how account lone wolf/house/merc corps mechanics will work. Will I be able to switch from being a merc corp guy to a house guy and back again based on my subscription status all on one account?

I've never had a problem with paying a subscription, but it would need to be flexible and I liked the idea of getting more rewards out of the system in terms of cbills, experience, etc., rather than it being required for a certain play experience.

Edited by shabowie, 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM.


#302 Texas Merc

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:39 PM

View PostBuddahcjcc, on 29 March 2013 - 04:36 PM, said:


You mean all of HOUSE Liao?
As houses arent having to pay premiums why are you asking him?


he isn't house liao

#303 Dreamslave

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

View PostBuddahcjcc, on 29 March 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:


sub based game =/= free to play. Cable isnt free to play. Internet isnt free to play. Cell phone isnt free to play
Your analogy fails outright


View PostVhetra, on 29 March 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:


The point was that we were promised a F2P game. I PAID MY MONEY on the basis of this being a FREE to PLAY game.

Now that is changing? **** that. **** everything about that.


IT IS f2p. Why is this so hard for people like you to comprehend? The only part that would be "subscription based" is the MercGroup element. WoT does the exact same thing and it's still by and large classified as an f2p game. It's the same damn thing.

#304 Asakara

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

If I had to guess I think they will say House units can play for free but will have a group cap of 4.

Player run units (aka Merc Corps / Clans / etc...) will have a fee to setup but you can group up to a max of 4 for free. If you want to make an 8 or 12 man, the group creator will need to have premium time running (to unlock "extended grouping").

Lone Wolves may or may not be permitted to group but will also play for free. They will fill in any roster gaps a house or merc unit has on a given drop (i.e. Your merc corp has 10 and wants to drop in the 12v12 queue, so the system throws in 2 lone wolves for that battle to complete the roster for your side).

This is just my guess.

#305 Alondo

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

I have a one person guild in Dungeons and Dragons Online. There are benifits to being in a guild in that game. What benifits will there be for being in a guild/clan/unit here?

#306 80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

Interview said:

"We really want people who participate in this to be as engaged as possible. And we'll probably require them to have a premium time account, as a kind of dedication level." That premium time account can be purchased in quantities ranging from daily to monthly to bi-annually, with the 30-day pack costing $10.
When asked to define what the cutoff for "late summer" was, both Ekman and Bullock said "September 21" in unison. So it sounds like they're leaving themselves as much room as possible to hit 1.0.


That will be the last day I play MechWarrior. RIP greatest franchise.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

View PostTexas Merc, on 29 March 2013 - 04:35 PM, said:

I would like to hear from some of the Merc Corp leaders about whether this is a viable program. As in are you going to pay? Bombshells like these is why I haven't joined a group yet.

Yes but what do you fellow clan members think about it?

I'll pay to start a corp and if needed maintain a sub to keep it going but I don't expect any members to be forced to pay to play in CW or be forced to pay to be part of the corp. I have more than a few totally free players in the corp while others have run premium subs in the past or even purchased hero mechs.

I'm not seeing any support for this premium required for CW plan in Hell's Ponies. I don't expect to see any support for a system that is forcing players to buy a premium sub.

#308 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM

View PostZervziel, on 29 March 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Blatant business practice is blatant. They turn off a ton of players, but the ones dumb enough to go along with it get leeched and hard. Normally I try to side with PGI, but this time I just can't. I'm not going to pay you leeches to play with my friends.
... but if you are a Steiner player, then you can play for free with your friends. This issue only affects the mercenary players, like me.

#309 Sifright

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

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No.

PGI's decision to hire additional staff does not constitute a clear-and-decisive proof that they are now in full cash-in-mode and abandoning the player base. This thread is closed.



Ahaha,

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Would you like some?

#310 Zervziel

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

PGI, when the collective response to your business plans is this reaction:

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You kinda need to rethink your stance a bit.

Edited by Zervziel, 29 March 2013 - 04:44 PM.


#311 Fenix0742

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

... but if you are a Steiner player, then you can play for free with your friends. This issue only affects the mercenary players, like me.

What if your friends are merc players, and you're stuck in a house because you're not buying premium?

#312 Inconspicuous

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:43 PM

So, is this the cash grab? or does that come later?

#313 Vhetra

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostDreamslave, on 29 March 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:




IT IS f2p. Why is this so hard for people like you to comprehend? The only part that would be "subscription based" is the MercGroup element. WoT does the exact same thing and it's still by and large classified as an f2p game. It's the same damn thing.



It's absolutely not, and paying a subscription to access part of the game is in no way "Free to play" regardless of what WoT's creators would like you to believe. You can take PGI's **** and shovel it down your noise-hole without complaint because at the end of the day you didn't fork over 120$ to help fund what was supposed to be a free to play Mechwarrior Title.

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

View Postmwhighlander, on 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:


That will be the last day I play MechWarrior. RIP greatest franchise.


First the Steel Brothers, and now Highlander?!

DAMN YOU PGI!!

Of all the terrible terrible business decisions, this is the worst one yet. And that is really saying something.

#315 Felicitatem Parco

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:44 PM

View PostFenix0742, on 29 March 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

What if your friends are merc players, and you're stuck in a house because you're not buying premium?
That might happen, and it would create much sadness. I may go so far to say it would suck. Yes, yes I will go that far.

Edited by Prosperity Park, 29 March 2013 - 04:45 PM.


#316 KuruptU4Fun

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:45 PM

View PostVhetra, on 29 March 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

That doesn't help the hundreds of merc corp players that will be required to pay fees to keep their **** running, and have active premium accounts. Which is a lot like Pay to play in that it exactly IS Pay to play. Something that MWO was promised NOT to be.



So far (with any certainty) is a FEE, not the plural of that word... Anything else is just conjecture...

#317 Texas Merc

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:45 PM

Time for twitter bombs

#318 Vhetra

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:46 PM

View PostKuruptU4Fun, on 29 March 2013 - 04:45 PM, said:



So far (with any certainty) is a FEE, not the plural of that word... Anything else is just conjecture...

They mentioned requiring premium subscription accounts to maintain it. That is not a singular "Fee" as "Subscription" is generally based on a monthly basis.

#319 Jive Korsan

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:47 PM

View PostProsperity Park, on 29 March 2013 - 04:41 PM, said:

... but if you are a Steiner player, then you can play for free with your friends. This issue only affects the mercenary players, like me.


These are the great houses of BattleTech.
"These guys participate in territory control in a more passive way. Their matches affect the universe, but indirectly.

Merc Corps. These are the guilds, these are the clans, these are the guys who come together, band together, fight together and play together and actually want to control as much territory as they can through their actions.

So a free player can't own territory is exactly what this says to me.

#320 Sifright

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Posted 29 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

So guys, can I interest you in some MC ammo?

Just 20 MC per tonne of missiles or ballisitics (They will produce one less heat and have higher velocity)

maybe some coolant?

D;





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