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[Argoboat]

That's how I had the lore explained to me. What would you guys say to summarize the whole battletech lore? Would you agree with the explanation I was given?

[Skunk Wolf]

The universe is very feudal. But very, very big. Between the great houses.

Considering that Game of Thrones is a thinly veiled rehashing on the real War of the Roses.

[Ardney]

I have neither read the books nor watched the Game of Thrones TV show.

However, if what you're envisioning is a series of power plays by various factions (and factions within factions) that leads to perpetual war throughout humanity's various domains then yes, it's like that.

Also: sarna.net

Edited by Ardney, 11 April 2013 - 06:27 AM.

[Mycrus]

and the urbie is tyrion...

[Mechteric]

Shakespeare also wrote some things about bloody throne exchanges, so its not some kind of new idea invented by Game of Thrones.


But yes, in a nutshell you could draw some parallels.


http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Inner_Sphere

[Syllogy]

No.

Game of Thrones is Battletech with Swords.

Edited by Syllogy, 11 April 2013 - 06:34 AM.

[KuruptU4Fun]

DustMonkey, on 11 April 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

That's how I had the lore explained to me. What would you guys say to summarize the whole battletech lore? Would you agree with the explanation I was given?

If someone explained the lore to you like that then they really don't have a good grasp on the lore.

Mostly because BT starts small, expands dramatically. Is governed by a technologically advanced police force, who then leaves. Then what remains suffers catastrophic nuclear/technological holocaust across a galaxy and then rebuilds into factions. Continues to war among one another 4-5 times before that small group comes back to wreak havoc on the factions and in turn has better weapons than the factions do. But they're smaller so eventually everything comes to a standstill.

This is where the basics are drawn, click on the links in the paragraph to delve further:
http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Inner_Sphere

Edited by KuruptU4Fun, 11 April 2013 - 06:40 AM.

[Noobzorz]

KuruptU4Fun, on 11 April 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

If someone explained the lore to you like that then they really don't have a good grasp on the lore.

Well they weren't trying to write him a novel about it...

[Viper69]

Mycrus, on 11 April 2013 - 06:27 AM, said:

and the urbie is tyrion...

I think he is closer to a locust. Firepower isnt his redeaming quality for women, its obviously his long gun, making him almost a tripod.

[Jakob Knight]

If the Watch at the Wall were intent on dominating the rest of the Kingdoms through intrigue and assassination, controlled all messages between the various Houses, actively sought to keep those Kingdoms from learning anything that could elevate them from travelling on horses to steam power, and Mercenary Companies regularly signed on to major engagements, then it might be.

Also, if the various Knights routinely found their horses taken away by the King after they arrived at a battlefield so the steeds could move other Knights to other battlefields (leaving the Knights without horses to wonder if they were going to be stuck where they fought), it might also be close.

Then again, most of the players in Game of Thrones don't have to worry about having enemy Knights drop into the middle of their castles on parachutes, and naval engagements are not as important in the TV Series as they are in Battletech.

Edited by Jakob Knight, 11 April 2013 - 06:52 AM.

[3rdworld]

Kinda, except there is no current leader of the star league.

If anything the Amaris civil war was GoTs.

[Argoboat]

Thanks for sending me to Sarna. Also, now that I'm thinking about it some GoT styled BT banners would be cool.

[Tennex]

this would be the case. but in Btech theres always been the 6 houses. it never changes.

[MustrumRidcully]

Jakob Knight, on 11 April 2013 - 06:51 AM, said:

If the Watch at the Wall were intent on dominating the rest of the Kingdoms through intrigue and assassination, controlled all messages between the various Houses, actively sought to keep those Kingdoms from learning anything that could elevate them from travelling on horses to steam power, and Mercenary Companies regularly signed on to major engagements, then it might be.

I think that's the wrong analogy. The Maesters seem to share the role of Comstar with Varys and his allies.

[Royalewithcheese]

It is when I play it.

[LordBraxton]

Battletech is like game of thrones with the houses and intrigue and dragons

But unlike game of thrones in that there is no ****

I read the book before the show came out, I didn't even know it was a high fantasy series until somebody told me. I thought it was low fantasy, like a fictional medieval world without magic etc. Turns out the magic just isn't in the first book.

So I didn't keep reading\watching

[Jakob Knight]

MustrumRidcully, on 11 April 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

I think that's the wrong analogy. The Maesters seem to share the role of Comstar with Varys and his allies.

Possibly, but Comstar was/is an organization that takes in members from all of the Houses, who have to renounce their former ties, usually those who are either fleeing misdeeds or disgrace as well as those who simply want to find a place outside the politics of the Inner Sphere (supposedly). In that way, I see the Watch as much more akin to ComStar in the setting they occupy, though as I stated, their goals are much different until the Schism results in a ComStar that actually -is- the Watch. However, that ComStar is many years away, and does not exist in MWO.

In actuality, it's hard to make a direct comparison because, as others have said, in Game of Thones, there is an overall Kingdom that is suffering civil war, whereas the Inner Sphere in Battletech doesn't have that unity, each State having been independent from the old Kingdom for many centuries. In a way, you could say Game of Thrones is similar to how the Star League fell, rather than a good illustration for how the Battletech Universe is at the current game time. The main differences being that the Star League fell due to open assassination, and the invading threat from 'beyond the Wall' doesn't come until many, many decades after the Kingdom has already fallen.

[Wardan]

A song of fire and ice was written in 1996. Battletech was launched in 1984.

Better question.

Is Game of thrones battletech without mechs?

[Thundercles]

Syllogy, on 11 April 2013 - 06:34 AM, said:

No.

Game of Thrones is Battletech with Swords.

Ahem.

[Champion Hero]

DustMonkey, on 11 April 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

That's how I had the lore explained to me. What would you guys say to summarize the whole battletech lore? Would you agree with the explanation I was given?

Kind of from what I understand, but it lacks one thing..... BOOOBIES!