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So, I Heard The Rvn-4X Is Useless...


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#1 KhanCipher

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:34 PM

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yes, i'm either stroking my e-peen, saying the RVN-4X isn't that bad (the build i use is below), or that PPCs need a good looking at, or i could be saying all 3... and that the sky is falling.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d46d294889bf7a3

so who thinks the RVN-4X is bad now? :)

#2 armyof1

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:36 PM

A decent Jenner would stomp you so hard it'd make your R3L feel it.

#3 Deathlike

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:38 PM

You're doing both.

The raven's tiny arms are hard to shoot off (the jenner's a tad larger, but equally small).

It can be painful by design.. the reason is that most try to find usage for the ballistic slots, and usually fail to do something with it.

It's definitely not a mech that would hold up vs a 3L.. but it doesn't make it useless by any stretch. It's simply that it is more painful to grind with to get to the 3L than to use a 3L...

#4 Iron Hyena

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

Posting one lucky game does not make an entire mech good.

Next time post ten.

#5 Willie Sauerland

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:39 PM

View PostKhanCipher, on 11 April 2013 - 05:34 PM, said:


yes, i'm either stroking my e-peen, saying the RVN-4X isn't that bad (the build i use is below), or that PPCs need a good looking at, or i could be saying all 3... and that the sky is falling.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d46d294889bf7a3

so who thinks the RVN-4X is bad now? :)

That is a slow raven.

I'm not sure

what the Commando

on the other team

was doing,

but it should have

eaten your lunch.

Also,

I would say you

stole kills...

:D :D


Edited by Willie Sauerland, 11 April 2013 - 05:40 PM.


#6 Merky Merc

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:41 PM

1 good game does not suddenly make a bad variant good.

View PostDornhal, on 11 April 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Posting one lucky game does not make an entire mech good.

Next time post ten.


Curses foiled.

#7 One Medic Army

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:41 PM

I think you got ignored, as either the Dragon or Commando would have ground your face into the dirt 1v1 in all likelihood.

That said, well done.

It's amazing what mounting "sub optimal" weapons or using a "sub optimal" chassis can get you, or in other words a good player who gets ignored can do serious damage regardless of build.

#8 Gigastrike

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:44 PM

How did I know the first thing I'd see in this thread was a game results screen shot?

#9 KhanCipher

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:45 PM

View PostWillie Sauerland, on 11 April 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Also,

I would say you

stole kills...

:) :D





i'm sure 500 damage says i wasn't killstealing by any stretch, i was just aiming that well.

#10 Tie Ma

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:45 PM

he feels so good about his one good game. and didnt even top the charts

#11 NotEnoughDakkaDakka

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:47 PM

A JR7-F can have more firepower AND run just as cool with 6 MLas, while going 42KPH faster. If you're hitting at long range with a light at that speed, you're just as vulnerable.

7-F completely outclasses it, and has more armor, and has more speed, firepower, better cooling, NO MIN RANGE... you get where I'm going with this?

A light worth his salt would totally stomp you.

#12 Willie Sauerland

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 05:48 PM

View PostKhanCipher, on 11 April 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:


i'm sure 500 damage says i wasn't killstealing by any stretch, i was just aiming that well.

Careful,

one could argue,

you weren't aiming well

because you had 500 damage.

Had you aimed well,

you would have

had much more damage

as the others wouldn't

have done a lot...

But I believe you.

:)



#13 ICEFANG13

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:05 PM

What you've done, is use a load out that any Jenner could have done, while its true that this load out is not terrible, you have to understand that unless you're looking for hitbox advantages, the Jenners can do the same thing, and then more.

You also have 5 armor on the arm, and 4 points off the legs, madness!

#14 Lukoi Banacek

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:23 PM

OP, glad you had a good time sniping as you were likely ignored for quite some time. Always relish those opportunities. They are a blast!

That being said....run that build a half dozen times in 8mans and get back to us with the metrics. That might be more indicative of whether it's a good variant or not.

My money is on....no.

Fun in 4mans is fun...but not necessarily an example of good. No harm done. We don't all play for "good," as often we're just in it for the fun, amirite?

#15 Kaspirikay

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:24 PM

I'd like to see the 4x perform as consistently as the 3L

#16 Tickdoff Tank

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:29 PM

It's not useless, it is just not a 3L.

#17 Zylo

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:36 PM

View PostDornhal, on 11 April 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

Posting one lucky game does not make an entire mech good.

Next time post ten.

A large map also helps this type of design. If a light mech has far more space to stay out of trouble the chances of making this build work increase.

On a short range map this PPC 4X probably would have been ripped apart easily by any good light pilot and honestly should have been ripped apart by the Commando 2D on the enemy team.

#18 M4NTiC0R3X

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:39 PM

Yeah, I heard that spiders were horrible and you know, in the thread I think I said, ' I don't care if the chances of this spider actually achieving what it did are a needle in a haystack, I now know that it is possible and cleverly so.. that tricky little dog:

Posted ImageThis is from several months ago, Feb. 9th to be exact. Oh and cheers, I bet it was fun! (Keeping this picture just to taunt those who said the spider would be flat useless, can't wait for the flea + MASC!)

Edited by M4NTiC0R3X, 11 April 2013 - 06:44 PM.


#19 BlueSanta

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 06:44 PM

I stopped taking your build seriously after I saw 4 JJs and that you took armor off the legs before the head.

#20 Victor Morson

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Posted 11 April 2013 - 07:42 PM

Least effective =/= entirely worthless.

View PostDeathlike, on 11 April 2013 - 05:38 PM, said:

It's definitely not a mech that would hold up vs a 3L.. but it doesn't make it useless by any stretch. It's simply that it is more painful to grind with to get to the 3L than to use a 3L...


Pretty much this.





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