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[MadPanda]

The highlander ruined it. Sure we had the ppc gauss snipers already, but now it's everyone. I don't have a problem aiming so I can join that game, but it's just damn boring and really bad gameplay. Assault mechs jumping up and taking a ppc shot and then hiding again. I feel ashamed to call myself assault mech player. And you can't run up to them because you are going to get shot up instantly. This gameplay has ruined highlander for me, and with it the whole game.

[TOGSolid]

MadPanda, on 17 April 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

The highlander ruined it. Sure we had the ppc gauss snipers already, but now it's everyone. I don't have a problem aiming so I can join that game, but it's just damn boring and really bad gameplay. Assault mechs jumping up and taking a ppc shot and then hiding again. I feel ashamed to call myself assault mech player. And you can't run up to them because you are going to get shot up instantly. This gameplay has ruined highlander for me, and with it the whole game.

This Thursday we get weight matching and the suckiness of the game will drop a huge amount.

[Joat]

its new....give it a week.As with all new things...EVERYONE has to have one.....

[Suprentus]

Yeah, it's all the Jenners Atlases Ravens Streakcats Splatcats LRM Boats Highlanders that ruined this game! Everything was balanced before this!

[KinLuu]

Jenner F.

The ultimate elephant hunting rifle.

[TOGSolid]

Joat, on 17 April 2013 - 12:23 AM, said:

its new....give it a week.As with all new things...EVERYONE has to have one.....

That too. Just like the amount of AC/20 Jagers have been dying down consistently, the amount of Highlanders will drop as well once the novelty wears off. Besides, most of the Highlander pilots out there are kinda crap so it's really not that bad.

[Zylo]

I just don't find the matches fun at all since the patch yesterday. I don't feel like logging back in after running some matches last night because the game is not fun with the current popular jump-sniping playstyle.

At least weight class matching later this week can allow a group of 4 to force 4 mechs on the enemy team to not be jump sniping assaults or heavies (if they take any combination of mediums and lights).

Edited by Zylo, 17 April 2013 - 12:29 AM.

[stjobe]

I love the poptards - they make big, juicy targets at the top of their jump. A couple of ERLL shots later, they're not popping any more

[Theodor Kling]

So they jump and snipe? big deal.. get moving. The amount of sniping fire that actually hits a COM-2D at 139kph is neglectible. And once you do get close ( terrain cover ) you would be amazed what damage a lowly Comando can do to assaults if you pack SRM4+6

[Zylo]

stjobe, on 17 April 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

I love the poptards - they make big, juicy targets at the top of their jump. A couple of ERLL shots later, they're not popping any more

Are you meeting entire teams of them though? If you meet just a few this seems to work, if you meet a team of them it's not much fun.

[Ryvucz]

Gauss and PPC mechs started poppin out once the SRMs got a reduction in their damage.

Before those, it was streaks (LOL, I KNOW, RIGHT!?)

Before that it was LRMs.

Pretty sure I'm missing something, but... ~Nyan

[GODzillaGSPB]

MadPanda, on 17 April 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

The highlander ruined it. Sure we had the ppc gauss snipers already, but now it's everyone. I don't have a problem aiming so I can join that game, but it's just damn boring and really bad gameplay. Assault mechs jumping up and taking a ppc shot and then hiding again. I feel ashamed to call myself assault mech player. And you can't run up to them because you are going to get shot up instantly. This gameplay has ruined highlander for me, and with it the whole game.

It's just a tad more boring than dual ac/20 jagermechs, isn't it? *g* You among those who basically having the same gripes I have with the game, oh the irony.

See, when I read your topics of the past I thought to myself: "If he ever makes a QQ thread I will laugh at him and tell him that he added to the problem by piloting and advertising a cheesebuild".

But I wont do it. Obviously we are more or less in the same boat. We just have a bit different opinions on what the game should be like, but agree that beeing shot in the face by 4 to 6 ppc from the other side of the map is NOT the way. It's a start.

[jakucha]

Joat, on 17 April 2013 - 12:23 AM, said:

its new....give it a week.As with all new things...EVERYONE has to have one.....

What he said. This happens with literally every mech that is introduced.

[TOGSolid]

Ryvucz, on 17 April 2013 - 12:39 AM, said:

Gauss and PPC mechs started poppin out once the SRMs got a reduction in their damage.

Before those, it was streaks (LOL, I KNOW, RIGHT!?)

Before that it was LRMs.

Pretty sure I'm missing something, but... ~Nyan

FOTM mentality at work more than anything. Everyone always instantly flocks to the next easiest tactic, even if the older tactic is still totally viable (unless it involves lock ons because ECM is pure ********).

[stjobe]

Zylo, on 17 April 2013 - 12:34 AM, said:

Are you meeting entire teams of them though? If you meet just a few this seems to work, if you meet a team of them it's not much fun.

I've never seen more than two or three at the same time. They jump, they miss, I hit them, they stop jumping, we take them out.

Is it boring gameplay - yes, somewhat. But only if you play the match on their terms. Don't line up on the opposite ridge and let them poptart, don't play that game. Suppress them and flank them; up close their jump jets are wasted weight and they go down as easily as any other 'mech.

They can only pop if you let them.

[AceTimberwolf]

Yea MadP with weight Discrim it'll balance out. All of us up on the ELO scale will face the 8 Highlanders....

[AceTimberwolf]

And someone said it in another Thread. Welcome to MechWarrior 4

Edited by AceTimberwolf, 17 April 2013 - 01:10 AM.

[Ilwrath]

stjobe, on 17 April 2013 - 12:31 AM, said:

I love the poptards - they make big, juicy targets at the top of their jump. A couple of ERLL shots later, they're not popping any more

Its not that hard to deal with but it looks stupid and should not be in the game. They just need to decrease accuracy while using jumpjets. Jumpjets should be used to get to sniper positions or for getting away with scouts. Whac-A-Mole with mechs is not why I play this game. Get rid of that crap.

[One Medic Army]

MadPanda, on 17 April 2013 - 12:19 AM, said:

The highlander ruined it. Sure we had the ppc gauss snipers already, but now it's everyone. I don't have a problem aiming so I can join that game, but it's just damn boring and really bad gameplay. Assault mechs jumping up and taking a ppc shot and then hiding again. I feel ashamed to call myself assault mech player. And you can't run up to them because you are going to get shot up instantly. This gameplay has ruined highlander for me, and with it the whole game.

You know, we ran into a 4man doing that all in highlanders.
So we charged into their base, made them come to us, and ended the game 8-2 having only lost 2 mechs.

Sure, the game is full of snipers and poptarts. Use it against them, they're slow, hot, and predictable as all heck for the most part. Stop playing their game of long distance standoffs.

[edit]
In the words of the great General Tacticus:

"If the enemy has an impregnable stronghold, see he stays there"

Edited by One Medic Army, 17 April 2013 - 01:48 AM.

[Ryvucz]

AceTimberwolf, on 17 April 2013 - 01:10 AM, said:

And someone said it in another Thread. Welcome to MechWarrior 4

I've never played that one, but I did see a clip of a mech being destroyed just for having one leg blown off.

I don't think this is the same, unless I am missing something.

MechWarrior 2 - Gauss and PPCs were good to have as well.