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[Livewyr]

Huntsman, on 18 April 2013 - 02:06 PM, said:

Fail to listen to what I say at your own peril.

lol, it was a good post.. up until that line above..

[Iskareot]

Joseph Mallan, on 18 April 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

I'm fairly good at whack a mole... I need to get my timing own to crumble the Tarts! Don't worry I will.

Lol Agreed... it does look like it from afar.. it is pretty funny actually. You see all these mechs going up and down out in the field close to each other. Freaking funny

[Huntsman]

Livewyr, on 18 April 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

lol, it was a good post.. up until that line above..

Too much?

[Willie Sauerland]

Huntsman, on 18 April 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

Too much?

Too soon I think.

By the way, does your crystal ball have

any information about the future of CW?

Just curious.

[Captain Pee Sheets]

I'm with you OP. I'm so freaking sick of all my limbs instantly disappearing the second I even THINK about moving from cover.

[Calamus]

Relax bud. It was the same with the Cataphract, and the Spider.

This too shall pass in approximately one month when the Blackjack is released.

[Willie Sauerland]

Calamus, on 18 April 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Relax bud. It was the same with the Cataphract, and the Spider.

This too shall pass in approximately one month when the Blackjack is released.

True.

People are rushing to elite their new Highlanders.

Once they are elited, they will join the normal rotation.

[AnubiteGroove]

Brawls used to be a part of every match, or at least every two, even if they were small. I enjoy about 1 brawl now every 1:10 games.

Nothing but snipers (600m+ range). It's boring. With maps like alpine, there is no brawl anymore, and in other maps the brawl is usually small (3 mechs total) if it happens. I don't want to HAVE to snipe just to play. I really miss brawling.

Missiles made me feel unsafe in the wide-open for too long before the nerf, but now, I don't feel safe ANYWHERE. I am sick of games that induces 360 degrees of paranoia at ALL times.

Yeah, yeah, "just stay in cover," I hear. Problem with that is a few people on my team always peek at snipers who are already set up waiting. If you have a snipeboat or two go to the side of your team, he can nearly or fully get a kill on 1-3 mechs despite your cover. As soon as 3-5 guys are sniped away, a mass of enemy rushes the few remaining people who are likely injured.

Brawls? What is a brawl?

Edited by AnubiteGroove, 18 April 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Captain Pee Sheets]

GIVE ME MORE BRAWL!!!!!!!!!!!

[Cur]

Iskareot, on 18 April 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, so this... LORE aside has just gone wacky. I have played the game some months now, love it... Mastered one.. enjoyed it... noticed less kids... stupid talk and really has been a decent experience. Until now. This - Mech Jump Jet in the Air... snipe with PPC's go down is just unreal and stupid at this point. I was in a game with 7 of them. 7... our team was 4 lights, two heavy's and a couple assault's. This was just the worst thing I have seen in the game for some reason so far. It wasn't even fun whatsoever. I just logged out and said forget it. No need to even pay for MC when it's like this. I hate saying this, but I think it is time for the PPC club to be on non-jump jet mechs only. YES I KNOW THE LORE YES I AM OLD AND PLAYED ALL THE OLDER GAMES GOING BACK TO THE FREAKING PAPER/BOOK GAME... so nobody go nuts with the lore crap but we are to a point that this last patch or so changed the game in some tactical fun and gameplay that people won't want to deal with it. I am sad to say I may be one. I am really starting to like the game then this patch came. If this is the direction it won't be long before everyone is a jump jet ppc mech period.

The solution to your problem is not to play a game while it's in Beta and is obviously unbalanced and because of these inbalances people will pick the FOTM every time.

BUT MAYBE MAKING A FORUM POST AND COMPLAINING IN CAPS WILL MAKE THINGS CHANGE QUICKER! HURRAH!

[Elizander]

The solution is to not stand in Theta in Tourmaline. Just don't cause everyone and their grandmother is on the fringes aiming at the cap point so if you park your mech out there or go brawl in the center you're gonna get shot up so bad it's not gonna be funny. That place was designed as a barrel to shoot fish in.

It -really- doesn't take much effort to hug cover for a bit and blow out a poptarting Highlander's side torso from behind.

[Thorgrim Malthus]

Khan Reaper, on 18 April 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

-sigh-

This is just like any other "issue" that has come up in the game since the beginning. It won't last. And to be honest, I haven't ran into it much at all. The Highlander is a new mech with jump jet capabilities and slots for PPC's and Gauss. It didn't take Nostradamus to see that this was going to happen. And it doesn't take him to realize that it won't last. If it's really killing the game for you then just take a break. This is almost always the answer, whether it was ECM or LRMfest, the best answer has always been, give the game a break. For me, I will play through it, develop tactics to combat it, and then be that much more prepared for when the situation is rare as opposed to common.

I understand the frustration of running into this tactic, especially when you get a whole team of "the flavor of the month", but it really isn't that bad. In a months time, this type of thread will be non existent, and there will be a whole new slew of threads complaining about PPC's not being strong enough.

You summed everything up, bro.

[Ninja Snarl]

Thorgrim Ulfrikson, on 18 April 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

You summed everything up, bro.

The problem there is that all the flavor-of-the-month stuff has yet to be fixed by evolving tactics and builds. Ever. Excessively powerful FOTM builds will not go away until they get patched away, as seen by overpowered LRMs, streaks, SRMs, and, way back in the closed beta, lasers. ECM is still overpowered, because the only tactical counter is "more ECM", which is an absolutely awful way of balancing equipment.

With the current FOTM PPC stuff, there is no counter tactic besides more of the same, which is just miserable, miserable combat. Fast mechs? Oh, we just got a great patch to PPCs so they hit perfectly now, so you can get vaped or lose a leg in a single salvo. Assault mechs? Enjoy getting murdered by 3-4 PPC salvos to the CT. LRM mechs? LRMs aren't hardly worth squat right now. Ballistic mechs? Can't possibly stack enough long-range high-power single-shot weapons to match PPCs. Lasers? Nope, massive pinpoint damage will beat your moderate damage-over-time in every instance, especially if any amount of long-range combat is involved.

Fact is that the PPC sniping won't go away until something is done about ultra-stable jumpjet firing (which is stupid) and either nerfing the crap out of PPCs (which would suck) or finally patching convergence so you can't have any more pinpoint alpha-striking at hundreds of meters. There's simply no counter-tactic to mechs that can pop up, drop 50+ damage in a salvo on a single panel, drop back out into cover and cool off, and then repeat several times before you can possibly close and engage.

Edited by Ninja Snarl, 18 April 2013 - 09:28 PM.

[LordDante]

Novakaine, on 18 April 2013 - 06:37 AM, said:

Naw, just use some team tactics.
1. Don't be a target.
Hard to snipe a moving target that's behind cover.

2. Take command - Somebody has to.

3. Distraction.
If ya got fast mechs send em straight to the enemy base laugh as half thier team falls back to protect it.

4. Learn the maps - Ya played a million times, so unless yer new ya should know all the high points and choke points by now use em.

5. Flank em - Rank and File tactics died during the Civil War leave em there, and spread out.

6.Psychological Warfare.
Sniping the snipers works wonders seen it dozens of times.

7.Psychological Warfare II.
Talk about thier favorite puppy or something, yeah most noobs will claim they don't read the chat, but we all do ya know it. Mockery works best.

8. If ya lose learn from it.

this ! Your doing it right !