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[Iskareot]

Ok, so this... LORE aside has just gone wacky. I have played the game some months now, love it... Mastered one.. enjoyed it... noticed less kids... stupid talk and really has been a decent experience. Until now. This - Mech Jump Jet in the Air... snipe with PPC's go down is just unreal and stupid at this point. I was in a game with 7 of them. 7... our team was 4 lights, two heavy's and a couple assault's. This was just the worst thing I have seen in the game for some reason so far. It wasn't even fun whatsoever. I just logged out and said forget it. No need to even pay for MC when it's like this. I hate saying this, but I think it is time for the PPC club to be on non-jump jet mechs only. YES I KNOW THE LORE YES I AM OLD AND PLAYED ALL THE OLDER GAMES GOING BACK TO THE FREAKING PAPER/BOOK GAME... so nobody go nuts with the lore crap but we are to a point that this last patch or so changed the game in some tactical fun and gameplay that people won't want to deal with it. I am sad to say I may be one. I am really starting to like the game then this patch came. If this is the direction it won't be long before everyone is a jump jet ppc mech period.

Edited by Iskareot, 18 April 2013 - 01:19 AM.

[Arete]

Flavour of the month, you know.

They just released the highlander, of course we'll have shitloads of jumpjetting snipers. This goes without saying, but use cover and ambush.

[Khan Reaper]

-sigh-

This is just like any other "issue" that has come up in the game since the beginning. It won't last. And to be honest, I haven't ran into it much at all. The Highlander is a new mech with jump jet capabilities and slots for PPC's and Gauss. It didn't take Nostradamus to see that this was going to happen. And it doesn't take him to realize that it won't last. If it's really killing the game for you then just take a break. This is almost always the answer, whether it was ECM or LRMfest, the best answer has always been, give the game a break. For me, I will play through it, develop tactics to combat it, and then be that much more prepared for when the situation is rare as opposed to common.

I understand the frustration of running into this tactic, especially when you get a whole team of "the flavor of the month", but it really isn't that bad. In a months time, this type of thread will be non existent, and there will be a whole new slew of threads complaining about PPC's not being strong enough.

[Pinkydinky]

Agreed. When ECM came out everyone and their dog was in an ECM mech. Now I sometimes get into matches where there is not a single ECM mech on the field.

After awhile people just get tired of it and start playing their other mechs

[arkanis]

Arete, on 18 April 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

Flavour of the month, you know.

They just released the highlander, of course we'll have shitloads of jumpjetting snipers. This goes without saying, but use cover and ambush.

Cover and ambush won't do much btw. When lrm reigned supreme we could use cover and ambush to close distance and tear a distracted LRM boat apart. Now you close distance and if you survive the onslaught, guess what?, they still have ppcs and gauss that are still good enough to brawl against nerfed short range specialists, specially if they had been shot to pieces while trying to get close.

Edited by arkanis, 18 April 2013 - 01:45 AM.

[Khan Reaper]

You're probably right Arkanis, but just give it time. They'll fix missiles and then the ambush part will work again. I personnally just wait 'em out. It sucks if the rest of the team won't stay patient, but if you can just draw them in, even if it's only a couple at a time, you can waste 'em and then overwhelm the left overs with superior numbers. Even a bum rush once you have more team than they do is feasible. This is the basic training leading up to Community Warfare, so take your lessons now while they don't count.

[F lan Ker]

S!

It will settle after people have Elited or Mastered their new Highlanders. The state/rewind really did help PPC and ballistics so it can make the sudden Poptart-O-Rama feel worse than it actually is. And doesn't the weight limit come to effect today so it can change the playing field somewhat. FOTM is a feature in every online game, just have to live with it or move on.

[MentalPatient]

Ok, that's enough threads about jump sniping ppcs and gauss' builds. I am with you, but we don't need 1000 threads choking the. Forums on the issue.

[Appogee]

Arete, on 18 April 2013 - 01:23 AM, said:

Flavour of the month, you know. They just released the highlander, of course we'll have shitloads of jumpjetting snipers. This goes without saying, but use cover and ambush.

This.

[Belorion]

No, just no...

ppc's are fine jj sniping is fine. If you want to play something else do so. My corp has been tearing up some jump sniping teams by bringing half brawlers that sneak around while our snipers exchange shots with theirs.

[MrZakalwe]

Pinkydinky, on 18 April 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:

Agreed. When ECM came out everyone and their dog was in an ECM mech. Now I sometimes get into matches where there is not a single ECM mech on the field.

After awhile people just get tired of it and start playing their other mechs

I still see plenty and probably for the same reason dont see LRMs more often than every few games.

[Galenit]

What do the tt-books say about jumpsniping? They get some minus points on aiming.

What does your feeling say about shaking when pushing 90tons of metal in the air with jets? It should shake.

But with that much fotmplayers defending their new flavor mechs its hard to bring balance.....

Edited by Galenit, 18 April 2013 - 02:54 AM.

[Ralgas]

new shiny, give it a week or 2..........

[Willie Sauerland]

Iskareot, on 18 April 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, so this... LORE aside has just gone wacky. I have played the game some months now, love it... Mastered one.. enjoyed it... noticed less kids... stupid talk and really has been a decent experience. Until now. This - Mech Jump Jet in the Air... snipe with PPC's go down is just unreal and stupid at this point. I was in a game with 7 of them. 7... our team was 4 lights, two heavy's and a couple assault's. This was just the worst thing I have seen in the game for some reason so far. It wasn't even fun whatsoever. I just logged out and said forget it. No need to even pay for MC when it's like this. I hate saying this, but I think it is time for the PPC club to be on non-jump jet mechs only. YES I KNOW THE LORE YES I AM OLD AND PLAYED ALL THE OLDER GAMES GOING BACK TO THE FREAKING PAPER/BOOK GAME... so nobody go nuts with the lore crap but we are to a point that this last patch or so changed the game in some tactical fun and gameplay that people won't want to deal with it. I am sad to say I may be one. I am really starting to like the game then this patch came. If this is the direction it won't be long before everyone is a jump jet ppc mech period.

The broken element right now is the meta.

The very first stat we were ever shown was

KDR.

Ever since then, this has been an individual game

instead of the team game it is supposed to be.

Had PGI built the game around the intended meta

and never published the KDR as a stat but

rewarded roles within the game such as scouting

I don't think we would be seeing the game we see

today.

[stjobe]

Suppress them, flank them, kill them.

Don't stand on the opposite hill and play their game. Play your game.

Improvise, adapt, overcome.

[Lugh]

The people doing this are poptarded. Flank them and hit them in the rear.

[Agent of Change]

Willie Sauerland, on 18 April 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

the Truth

What he said and also the proliferation of mechs and the use of weapons that makes that easy.

You can lead mechwarriors to the enemy but you can't make them kill them, or even flank, or focus fire, of hell even stick around for the whole fight.

[AnnoyingCat]

Did you also complain when missiles were the stuff?

[bigdaddynash]

Willie Sauerland, on 18 April 2013 - 02:58 AM, said:

The broken element right now is the meta.

The very first stat we were ever shown was

KDR.

Ever since then, this has been an individual game

instead of the team game it is supposed to be.

Had PGI built the game around the intended meta

and never published the KDR as a stat but

rewarded roles within the game such as scouting

I don't think we would be seeing the game we see

today.

Indeed competiton means theres only one winner and many sore loosers. So much for a team game.

[Zylo]

Iskareot, on 18 April 2013 - 01:18 AM, said:

Ok, so this... LORE aside has just gone wacky. I have played the game some months now, love it... Mastered one.. enjoyed it... noticed less kids... stupid talk and really has been a decent experience. Until now. This - Mech Jump Jet in the Air... snipe with PPC's go down is just unreal and stupid at this point. I was in a game with 7 of them. 7... our team was 4 lights, two heavy's and a couple assault's. This was just the worst thing I have seen in the game for some reason so far. It wasn't even fun whatsoever. I just logged out and said forget it. No need to even pay for MC when it's like this. I hate saying this, but I think it is time for the PPC club to be on non-jump jet mechs only. YES I KNOW THE LORE YES I AM OLD AND PLAYED ALL THE OLDER GAMES GOING BACK TO THE FREAKING PAPER/BOOK GAME... so nobody go nuts with the lore crap but we are to a point that this last patch or so changed the game in some tactical fun and gameplay that people won't want to deal with it. I am sad to say I may be one. I am really starting to like the game then this patch came. If this is the direction it won't be long before everyone is a jump jet ppc mech period.

The solution is forming a group of 4 light mechs and capping until the problem is resolved. You get the win and as a bonus you end up with an enemy team of really pissed off poptarts that can't get back to the base in time. It's a win + the satisfaction of making those ****** rage, what could be better in this game?

Edited by Zylo, 18 April 2013 - 04:05 AM.