Bad Karma 308, on 23 May 2013 - 05:26 PM, said:
You're using onboard graphics, and Intel's at that, and you're complaining about getting poor FPS in a game like MWO.
Do you not understand the reason that Intel and AMD don't really market IGUs to the gaming community? They are mainly designed for the casual desktop and HTPC users. They even have to share the slower DDR3 from the system RAM to operate.
So to forgo a discreet GPU in favor of room temperatures, then that was your choice, don't complain about it here.
Do you know what a forum is for? Have you read the thread topic? Because when you're telling somebody who makes an on-topic post not to post at all, you don't seem to be able to get it.
Perhaps until you're smart enough to figure those things out, you should refrain from posting.
Catamount, on 23 May 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:
Exactly.
Skomes, do you honestly think you're the only person who's room gets hot? I live in Charlotte during the summers, and my room frequently gets up to 30C+ without gaming. The room is small, my computer consumes about 400W, and physics 101 says what goes in must come out. You do the math.
My room gets beyond sweltering when I'm gaming, but I tolerate it, because that's the cost of gaming when you have a hot room. If you don't want to accept the cost of gaming, then as Karma says, that's your choice. You're also only losing a small amount of heat by foregoing something that can actually game. You could easily get a Radeon HD 7750, with its 55W TDP, and not contribute to heat notably beyond what your system already does. Even if you felt like underclocking and undervolting it to get that down further, it would still be massively faster than an HD4000.
I'll make myself more clear.
I:
-Own a PS3 and an Xbox 360
-Own lots of games for both systems
-Game on both PCs and consoles
-Pay fees for Xbox Live and World of Warcraft.
So I don't sit here wanting to sweat it out to game on PCs. I used to be a PC gamer but then I got the original Xbox and I realized iI could be on my PC until my room became hot enough to melt and then I could play my Xbox.
I'm not begging the game developers to do anything, what they choose to do is up to them. At the end of the day, I stated what was required to get me into this game and paying for things. I don't know why that would be hard to understand.
I had previously heard this game could run on the HD 4000 from posts on this message board. Having tried it for a week, I can say this isn't true. Maybe it was true earlier on, before many patches, but it isn't true now.
The funniest thing is that there is no real reason not to lower standards, the people who pay gain the MOST from it, because they get to pay for a game which has a lot more players. If you don't have a large userbase, the people who are willing to pay won't pay because the game won't be popular or alive enough to make them want to. If you pay money to buy things in this game and it dies within 3-5 years, who lost out the most? The people who paid.
SW:KOTOR went F2P and took in an additional 2 million users in just 1 year. This game will never have that. So what is the alternative? Either the devs work hard on milking current users, who are already a relatively small group compared to other MMOs, or they reduce costs and create less content.
I realize I'm running an IGP but like I said, I'm not expecting the game to run at 16:10 on my 22" monitor, I'm asking for a playable frame rate at 1024x768 at the lowest settings, which most every other game I play online is able to give me. I'm already willing to play with the lowest settings on the lowest possible resolution. If you can't run it on an IGP at the lowest possible settings, you've excluded a large part of the potential user base. F2P games die that way.
This game has competitors. Those competitors have more users and more lenient graphical requirements. What will happen when these hardcore PC gamers upgrade their systems in 2 years and then start playing the newest and more graphically advanced MMOs? If you cut your userbase to a small number, the game becomes very vulnerable to failure/bankruptcy, a new game might come out and crush this one, people might get bored etc.
If you guys want to sit here and argue against lowering standards because you feel really good about having powerful GPUs, then go ahead, and you'll be wondering why this game shuts down within the next 3-4 years when the player populations starts to dwindle and new players don't show up because there are better options out.
The game devs can do what they want but they won't get any money from me or many many other gamers. Its the loss of you guys, when you have fewer people to keep this game alive. But I think there are too many ignorant people on this thread who don't know how an F2P game is successful.
Hopefully those of you who play on the lowest settings either succeed in getting the tweaks required or end up finding better games to play and show the people who aren't smart enough to get it how a game like this can easily die when potentially 50% of the user base can't play properly.
To summarize in case many of you couldn't be bothered to read the above:
If you want to see this game thrive, you should be pushing for the requirements to be as low as possible so the community becomes more lively, the game makes more money and so that you don't end up with a bunch of hardcore gamers who leave when the next big thing comes out.
In any case, I won't post or read any further because like I said, I only barely even play this game anymore.
Edited by Skomes, 25 May 2013 - 01:16 AM.
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