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#141 GetinmyBellah

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

Who .... really .... cares? We've known since tournament one that it is all about time invested and there are ways to work the system and the, "my 10 out of 20 beats your 10 out of 50", is a joke. So, I have to ask again; who really cares?

#142 Gothic Salad

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 08:55 AM

I would be more worried about the amount of Bots running around, I admit I am a mid level player, I have excellent rounds and terrible rounds but I know people are going nuts with aiming bots. Some of the hits I took made no sense at all, I know how to hide my mech, use cover, advance safely, but the bot usage is really annoying.

#143 Oderint dum Metuant

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:35 AM

View PostSalagoth, on 05 May 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

I would be more worried about the amount of Bots running around, I admit I am a mid level player, I have excellent rounds and terrible rounds but I know people are going nuts with aiming bots. Some of the hits I took made no sense at all, I know how to hide my mech, use cover, advance safely, but the bot usage is really annoying.


Apprarently you lack the understanding of just how bad some mechs hit box designs are.

#144 Jonathan Paine

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 09:44 AM

Let PGI pick out the cream of the crop from the many solo style tournaments we have had. Let them battle it out. Stream it. Profit.

Then we can move on the to the real MWO: team based tournaments that select out the best of the best teams, and stream them fighting 8 on 8 (or 12 on 12). Much mech **** will be had!!!

#145 DeaconW

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

View PostSalagoth, on 05 May 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

I would be more worried about the amount of Bots running around, I admit I am a mid level player, I have excellent rounds and terrible rounds but I know people are going nuts with aiming bots. Some of the hits I took made no sense at all, I know how to hide my mech, use cover, advance safely, but the bot usage is really annoying.


Fortunately the still buggy hit detection and damage transfer mitigates the advantage of any aimbot... :D Wait...maybe that's PGI anti-aimbot strategy! Brilliant...

#146 Tsula

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:08 AM

View PostOvenRude, on 05 May 2013 - 08:23 AM, said:


Sorry dude, but within 2 hours of play I was top 10. You simply didn't have the skill to get there or had a string of bad games. Don't blame "having a life." I work 10-12 hours a day and come home and play a couple hours when it's possible. Focus on improving instead of blaming everything but yourself.

Think you miss took my point that great you got into the top 10 in a short time. I see you're on the board for 2 days in the top 10. I don't care if I was not in the top 10 or not. The thing is most of the tourney was ruled by those who had long hours to sit there and play alot. yes you cracked the top 10 twice good for you. But over all most probably played a lot longer then you or me so they had better score based on more matches. and over all you finished 9th in assault gratz to ya. Ya I made it to top 14 in 2 hours after that I didn't play went to bed then to work the day changed and I ended up 64th so ya those who had more time had more chance to better score. I frankly don't care I am just pointing out. the more you play the more you are better to win these or unless god like you are able to stay in the top 10 honest don't think you played for 2 or less hours on those days. considering you only did it twice.

#147 OvenRude

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:11 AM

Just pointing out that it isn't all pure grind time played.

Yes, playing more will give you more shots at good matches, that's just the way it is. But compiling the best out of 5 matches is a VAST improvement over the original tourney that was truly a battle of who could sleep the least. PGI has to draw the line somewhere.

#148 MavRCK

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:38 PM

View PostDV McKenna, on 05 May 2013 - 09:35 AM, said:

Apprarently you lack the understanding of just how bad some mechs hit box designs are.


McKenna knows his stuff... Wise to listen.

Thanks PGI for supporting skill in MWO. (Revert override to the old style? :D Xfingers)

#149 Scrawny Cowboy

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 12:58 PM

I don't really care bout my performance in the tourneys, but I am curious on the conclusion for this investigation. :D

#150 Tarl Cabot

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 01:27 PM

In Koreanese's defense during a few hours I did not see him dropping with the same people except for myself consistently, and this was late night/early morning Friday (I think!!). For a period of a few hours out of about 12-15 drops I saw him 8 or 9 drops which he was either on my side or the other side. After the first few drops (after he killed me 1st time w/hunch) he became primary target and would call it out in chat :D

iirc he drove a hunch SP for a few rounds, both for and against while a few other times he was in a Jag w/2x AC20s (not sure with or w/o 2 med lasers). He was effective with both mechs but he did not survive all the matches.

I was keeping an eye on who was in the drop but not due to the contest but to see if he was dropping with a unit mate(s), which would mean at least he (be it on my side or not) was likely setup with VOIP and would be more effective than being a true pug.

#151 MechPorn

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:05 PM

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#152 Koniving

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 02:59 PM

View PostForestGnome, on 03 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

instead of just ******* with him in my gauss spider.)



View PostForestGnome, on 03 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

in my gauss spider.



View PostForestGnome, on 03 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

gauss spider.



View PostForestGnome, on 03 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

I'm a Bauss.


So I'm not the only Gauss Spider...

Cosmetic question, should the Gauss Rifle be an attached barrel or a hand-held rifle for the Spider? The Gauss Spider in one of the books actually used a rifle. It's obvious it can only use 1 Gauss. What do you think?

Edited by Koniving, 05 May 2013 - 03:02 PM.


#153 Abivard

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

What percentage of the top placed players played during the 'dead of the night' when very few others were around to get matched with. in other words, it would be very interesting to see what their ELO was compared to the players they fought to get those great games?

I noticed the time of day has an influence on the quality of players I am matched up with,when the player pool is low, I find it far easier to rack up the kills than during 'prime times'.

#154 Soy

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:02 PM

****, I'm going 59.0 kph in my 5D with 2 ER PPCS, rock out...

View PostAbivard, on 05 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

What percentage of the top placed players played during the 'dead of the night' when very few others were around to get matched with. in other words, it would be very interesting to see what their ELO was compared to the players they fought to get those great games?

I noticed the time of day has an influence on the quality of players I am matched up with,when the player pool is low, I find it far easier to rack up the kills than during 'prime times'.


If you're playing during dead hours, and it's a large percentage of the top placed players grinding those dead hours, naturally you'd run up against a lot of those other guys. In which case those rounds are difficult to really dominate and pull out monster rounds over the heads of those other strong players. I had great rounds at 6am, I had great rounds at 2pm, I had great rounds at 10pm, everything. Kinda the luck of the draw, really.

Edited by Soy, 05 May 2013 - 03:04 PM.


#155 Koniving

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:17 PM

View PostSoy, on 05 May 2013 - 03:02 PM, said:

****, I'm going 59.0 kph in my 5D with 2 ER PPCS, rock out...


I just use one. I do okay on speed, 4 ton engine helps.


#156 Soy

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:22 PM

No man that's a legit build, gotta make something ridiculous with it. Nobody can hit the damn thing anyways.

#157 DeaconW

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:30 PM

View PostKoniving, on 05 May 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:


Cosmetic question, should the Gauss Rifle be an attached barrel or a hand-held rifle for the Spider? The Gauss Spider in one of the books actually used a rifle. It's obvious it can only use 1 Gauss. What do you think?


I think it should be in your hand and a specialty of the Spider could be that if you point the Gauss down and fire while moving, you can "rocket jump" ala the original Doom!

#158 BellatorMonk

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 03:40 PM

Oh you mean people bent the non-existent rules in a team based game to allow individuals to score better than others for a solo competition conducted inside a team based format?

PGI or IGP..do you know what solo versus team means?

How about you have a team competition for the team based game since there are no ways of conducting solo missions or one vs one (i.e., solo versus solo).

This kind of mentality means you will never get any money from me.

#159 Soy

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 06:26 PM

View PostBellatorMonk, on 05 May 2013 - 03:40 PM, said:

This kind of mentality means you will never get any money from me.


But... they already... did... you're a legendary... founder... what is this I don't even

#160 Izzob

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 07:21 PM

So wait.. when I called HAX!! .. it was really true !?!?

That almost never happens :D ;) :D





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