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[ove bababoke]

I please you to stop it! Using macros for 6xAC2 is absolutely evil - it`s ******* MG but making more damage.

[Budor]

[Tesfurdo]

ove bababoke, on 05 May 2013 - 12:49 AM, said:

I please you to stop it! Using macros for 6xAC2 is absolutely evil - it`s ******* MG but making more damage.

It is evil... but I've only seen it in game twice... so i got over it!

[El Bandito]

Annoying? Yes.

Effective? Depends.

[Carrioncrows]

Long range it's ok.

Point blank standing in front of it and the guy has some coolant flushes on hand it will murder you.

In the words of Yojimbo from The Replacements "Try scrambling around a bit"

[ove bababoke]

Tesfurdo, on 05 May 2013 - 01:01 AM, said:

but I've only seen it in game twice

Well, you`re lucky! And I`ve seen it twice for today only!

[Tesfurdo]

ove bababoke, on 05 May 2013 - 01:21 AM, said:

Well, you`re lucky! And I`ve seen it twice for today only!

WOW... I didn't realise that it was cropping up that often. Was it the same guy both times tho?

[pencilboom]

if you're a ppc boat, you can take these guys out really easy. when they're firing, they need to expose themselves in order to dps effectively. you probably have like 4++ seconds window to alpha their side torso and make them panic and cowers back into cover.
believe me, 6 ac/2s jagers in medium / long range < 4ppc stalker or equivalent ppc boats.

Edited by pencilboom, 05 May 2013 - 01:32 AM.

[chewie]

its no more annoying than:
6 large laser Stalker
6 PPC Stalker
.......


The list would be quite long if I were to go on.

Oh wait, that's very annoying stuff too isn't it.

Unfortunately, with the current way to be able to build mechs, and the ability to add in macro's via hardware (eg mice), the only way to get over it would be to have PGI put in software to try and prevent macro's working.

That or remove modifications from the mech bay and leave you to rely on stock configs that are available to you (shock horror, and we can't have that because that's just not derpwarrior online!!)

Players want to kill you in the most expeditious manor possible. That equals high derp builds, commonly known as *cheese builds*.

They care not about whether its still the same machine or not, just that its optimized and uber cool at killing other players.



And so we all suffer and have to put up with it, or find a way to get round it ourselves.

GL GH HF, enjoy the game when and where you can.

And know that there are others out there sharing your pain.

Edited by chewie, 05 May 2013 - 04:16 AM.

[Wormrex]

I drive a triple AC2 dragon. Cockpit Bukakke is my trade

You don't really need a macro to chain dakka actually. If you were whining about Uac5 I could understand, however ac2s?

those takes almost forever to deal damage, and as mentioned, they can't really turn away neither.

Be happy they don't rock your cockpit like an earthquake simulator anymore.

[ove bababoke]

You CAN`T shoot AC2 as fast as macro does! Have you ever seen this really heavy MG? Just compare with your FR, and forget - it`s 6(!) AC2.
Anyway, macro is a semicheat.

[Wormrex]

It doesn't really require any sort of tapping boss, just some clever grouping and presto, ac2 minigun!

Since it is being questioned, here is how I chain mine, 1 group fire, then 2 others on seperate groups.

Once you fire off the two in single groups, hold down the group fire button and they will go off whenever they finish their cooldown.

With 6 you could either do it with groups of 2s or 1 group fire and 2 chain fire groups.

The problem lies with overheating quickly with 6 ac2s

Again, you do not need macros.

[Dexion]

ove bababoke, on 05 May 2013 - 02:30 AM, said:

Anyway, macro is a semicheat.

No, it isn't, please don't spread false information.

6xAc2 in macro-chain is just a fun gimick build, you get the exact same dps by group firing the 6 Ac2's as one rapid fire Ac12. Its also so heavy (36 tons of guns, without ammo) and heat intensive(12 heat/second) that your total effective time in combat is small.

[Utilyan]

Everyone ought to be able to chain fire easily. Its one of those broke things folks don't notice. like if you got tag, flamer, or mg shooting..... you can't quickly chain fire other weapons quickly either. Theres a massive delay that waits till the weapon finishes shooting.....

Shouldn't complain about the macro, complain about the broke chain fire. The macro is a work around to something thats broke.

[MustrumRidcully]

I don't thnik I've ever seen those AC/2 macro guys. But if it's a problem, ow about turning the AC/2 into a weapon that doesn't benefit so much from macros?

Say, lower its recycle rate to 1 shot per second, but in turn make it more heat efficient?

[Tesfurdo]

Dexion, on 05 May 2013 - 02:37 AM, said:

No, it isn't, please don't spread false information.

6xAc2 in macro-chain is just a fun gimick build, you get the exact same dps by group firing the 6 Ac2's as one rapid fire Ac12. Its also so heavy (36 tons of guns, without ammo) and heat intensive(12 heat/second) that your total effective time in combat is small.

Your right... it's not a semi cheat... its a cheat... If a human being can't fire it that fast then its an augmentation for the 6x ac2 build... which in my book is the same as an augmentation for aiming... which is an aim bot. Cheating.

[Plavis]

Pleas read http://mwomercs.com/...g/page__st__260

[Mechteric]

That constant stream of AC2's may sound hellish, and feel hellish on the receiving end, but at best it'll scratch your paint as you waltz through several seconds of a sea of its fire. If this weapon combination really troubles you then I have to wonder how you're holding up against quad PPC builds and other combos that actually deal decent amounts of damage.

[Tesfurdo]

Plavis, on 05 May 2013 - 12:54 PM, said:

Pleas read http://mwomercs.com/...g/page__st__260

So the majority of people are cheats... sounds about right.

[Roland]

It's almost 60% as effective as simply alpha striking with all of the AC2's.