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[Teir Dasande]

QQ...QQ everywhere.

Love how people b*tch when things dont get fixed, and b*tch when the do get fixed. This community is terrible, for the most part.

[M4L4R3K]

Teir Dasande, on 21 May 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

QQ...QQ everywhere.

Love how people b*tch when things dont get fixed, and b*tch when the do get fixed. This community is terrible, for the most part.

LRM user I suppose?

[Moomtazz]

Another way to look at it...now AMS may be mandatory for all mechs. This means they will have to give up something to equip AMS, which can lead to a little less boating and large alphas. If everyone on your team had AMS and you stayed close enough to provide overlapping protection, the LRMs can be effectively countered. I don't like the idea of them always hitting CT though.

[Zerberus]

Teir Dasande, on 21 May 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

QQ...QQ everywhere.

Love how people b*tch when things dont get fixed, and b*tch when the do get fixed. This community is terrible, for the most part.

And I don`t think it`s in any way coincidental that it`s usually the exact same people, interestingly enouigh people that I have never seen ingame, unlike just about everyone else with any sort of prominence here that doesn`t 8 man exclusively, I have dropped with or against just about everybody on here that "admits" to pugging at least once, except that select few.

[Accursed Richards]

2 CTD's out of six games, still the no-text-chat bug, and the bug where mechs get stuck in games that ended ages ago seems to be back. Sigh.

[Teir Dasande]

M4L4R3K, on 21 May 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

LRM user I suppose?

I like me some lrms, but im just sitting at work waiting to go home and play. I actually do not have lrms on any of my mechs, im trying to bring back brawling.

[M4L4R3K]

Teir Dasande, on 21 May 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

I like me some lrms, but im just sitting at work waiting to go home and play. I actually do not have lrms on any of my mechs, im trying to bring back brawling.

check it out once you get back home then, you will understand.

[Teir Dasande]

M4L4R3K, on 21 May 2013 - 01:39 PM, said:

check it out once you get back home then, you will understand.

Remember the lurmocalypse? I do. I didnt use lrms, and I loved it. So this will make me have to use cover again. And I like that.

Edited by Teir Dasande, 21 May 2013 - 02:00 PM.

[Lightfoot]

ahh, but my Trebuchet 5N just became my favorite Mech! It's fast enough to pop up, shoot LRMs and run away before everyone zeroes in on it. Medium laser back-up too. Artie and BAP too. LRMs on a medium seem about perfect.

[Zerberus]

M4L4R3K, on 21 May 2013 - 01:33 PM, said:

LRM user I suppose?

I share his opinion 100% and use, literally, EVERY weapon in teh game with the exception of the (IMO uselless in 1984 TT and still useless today) AC2, LBX, and machine gun. EFFECTIVELY.

I play PPC poptarts, balanced builds, brawlers, ecm scouts, and jokebuilds. So what does that say about me in your mind? Lemme guess, I`m a closet LRM fanboy, even though I only use them on 10% of my mechs?

Yes, there are a few tweaks needed...OMFG!! PGI SUXX!!! IT`S NOT PERFECT!!!!

R
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WoW has been out for what, 10 years,+ 4 years development before release and still has balance tweaks with every patch. So does blizzard suck even more than PGI, 280 times as much to be "statistically accurate", since they have 20x the people working on WoW and 14 times teh invested time??

Or are you just "conveniently" forgetting that video game balance is an ongoing process in almost every game under the sun so that you can rag on PGI and act holier than thou towards other users that disagree with you?

Edited by Zerberus, 21 May 2013 - 02:06 PM.

[Teir Dasande]

Zerberus, on 21 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

I share his opinion 100% and use, literally, EVERY weapon in teh game with the exception of the (IMO uselless in 1984 TT and still useless today) AC2, LBX, and machine gun. EFFECTIVELY.

I play PPC poptarts, balanced builds, brawlers, ecm scouts, and jokebuilds. So what does that say about me in your mind? Lemme guess, I`m a closet LRM fanboy, even though I only use them on 10% of my mechs?

Yes, there are a few tweaks needed...OMFG!! PGI SUXX!!! IT`S NOT PERFECT!!!!

R
O
F
L

WoW has been out for what, 10 years,+ 4 years development before release and still has balance tweaks with every patch. So does blizzard suck even more than PGI, 280 times as much to be "statistically accurate", since they have 20x the people working on WoW and 14 times teh invested time??

Or are you just "conveniently" forgetting that video game balance is an ongoing process in almost every game under the sun so that you can rag on PGI and act holier than thou towards other users that disagree with you?

[J I N]

Teir Dasande, on 21 May 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Remember the lurmocalypse? I do. I didnt use lrms, and I loved it. So this will make me have to use cover again. And I like that.

You will learn it for yourself, but LRMs are dropping right from the sky now. You will need something 2 times as high as your mech, to get any cover.
On some maps you will be in real trouble if you leave your "safe spot".


My choice is to use an ECM Sniper for the next days till everyone settles down. ^^

btw.: the Blackjack is pretty hard to hit on 500m+... maybe it will be a nice fast sniper (hit and run)

[Teir Dasande]

Just for the lulz, im going to fit up a 4xlrm20 stalker again. I cant wait. GRANT ME YOUR TEARS!

[PhoenixFire55]

If you are sitting at work how do you know that smth got fixed and smth didn't?

Teir Dasande, on 21 May 2013 - 01:41 PM, said:

Remember the lurmocalypse? I do. I didnt use lrms, and I loved it. So this will make me have to use cover again. And I like that.

With new flight trajectories for LRM cover is obsolete, they hit you directly from above.

Zerberus, on 21 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

+ 4 years development

That sir ... is the most important thing. The difference between 4 years in developement and 4 month in developement.

[Zerberus]

PhoenixFire55, on 21 May 2013 - 02:15 PM, said:

That sir ... is the most important thing. The difference between 4 years in developement and 4 month in developement.

Yep, especially when you have 10-20 times as many people working on the game. To put it bluntly, 1 Blizzard year is 10-20 PGI years when you rationalize it down to man hours spent on the project. So if this were a blizzard game, we would still be somewhere around the middle of Closed Beta, and 2/3 or so of the community would not even be here yet.

Yeah, PGI really sucks hard when you put it into that perspective.

BTW, I completely forgot to say this because I was so busy facepalming at every second post before I wrote my first response:

GREAT Job, PGI.

We are still a ways away from perfect, but this patch was , balance wise, a damn big step in the right overall direction. A few missteps, a few unwanted issues, but for the most part delivered as promised.

Accursed Richards, on 21 May 2013 - 01:34 PM, said:

2 CTD's out of six games, still the no-text-chat bug, and the bug where mechs get stuck in games that ended ages ago seems to be back. Sigh.

This is of course annoying, but to a certain extent inevitable in game development.

With all due respect, have you tried the repair tool and /or a fresh install? I also often have bugs after a patch, and a fresh install kills them in I`d say about 90% of the cases for me, including the dreaded CTD feature a few weeks ago. Just an idea I`m tossing out there.

Edited by Zerberus, 21 May 2013 - 02:34 PM.

[M4L4R3K]

Zerberus, on 21 May 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

I share his opinion 100% and use, literally, EVERY weapon in teh game with the exception of the (IMO uselless in 1984 TT and still useless today) AC2, LBX, and machine gun. EFFECTIVELY.

I play PPC poptarts, balanced builds, brawlers, ecm scouts, and jokebuilds. So what does that say about me in your mind? Lemme guess, I`m a closet LRM fanboy, even though I only use them on 10% of my mechs?

Yes, there are a few tweaks needed...OMFG!! PGI SUXX!!! IT`S NOT PERFECT!!!!

R
O
F
L

WoW has been out for what, 10 years,+ 4 years development before release and still has balance tweaks with every patch. So does blizzard suck even more than PGI, 280 times as much to be "statistically accurate", since they have 20x the people working on WoW and 14 times teh invested time??

Or are you just "conveniently" forgetting that video game balance is an ongoing process in almost every game under the sun so that you can rag on PGI and act holier than thou towards other users that disagree with you?

I supposed that he was an LRM user because normally, when someone knows something is OP and is using it, it will defend the said OP thing/weapon/skill in any game. If he is a brawler, good for him, or should i say not, unless he is a *********. How do I know if he is an internet troll or not? So yeah I generalized. Plus if you look up there, he wrote that is going to make an lrm boats for the lulz... That is not helping the cause unless he is going to show PGI how broken they are(send em a video!)

BTW i didn't say that PGI sucked, I think it is our responsibility as a beta players to tell them when something is wrong, I am happy that the franchise is back alive. IMO WoW is still a ****** game even if it has 20x more people working on it. **** stays **** even when you mix it with ice cream.

PS: LOL my 1st censored word is m a s o c h i s t. Really? Is that an offensive word?

Edited by M4L4R3K, 21 May 2013 - 02:36 PM.

[Teir Dasande]

mmmmm **** flavored icecreme. and yes, i will be frapsing my games and sending in a support ticket if i get around to actually spending my cbills on some lrms. and a new engine.

[Zerberus]

M4L4R3K, on 21 May 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

I supposed that he was an LRM user because normally, when someone knows something is OP and is using it, it will defend the said OP thing/weapon/skill in any game. If he is a brawler, good for him, or should i say not, unless he is a *********. How do I know if he is an internet troll or not? So yeah I generalized. Plus if you look up there, he wrote that is going to make an lrm boats for the lulz... That is not helping the cause unless he is going to show PGI how broken they are(send em a video!)

BTW i didn't say that PGI sucked, I think it is our responsibility as a beta players to tell them when something is wrong, I am happy that the franchise is back alive. IMO WoW is still a ****** game even if it has 20x more people working on it. **** stays **** even when you mix it with ice cream.

For the record, I didn`t mean to put words in your mouth and do apologize for doing so, I got a bit carried away there.

I used WoW as an example simply because in the gaming industry Blizzard is generally regarded as one of the companies that does game balance amopng inherently different playstyles comparatively well (Starcraft 1+2, diablo 1,2,3, WC3 and WoW), I just wanted to clearly display the disconnect in teamsize and dev time because it seems (to me) that anything that`s not perfectly balanced is always immediately demonized to the point of getting an insane nerf or buff which at a future point that actually causes more iimbalance *cough*PPC Heat*cough*.

Also FTR: I do agree that the new LRM trajectory is overdoing it a bit.... But then again, what better way to dislodge the pesky toaster pastries from their roosts, and that I think most of can agree was long overdue. I can live with 4 weeks or so of LRM carpet bombing as a form of retribution.

Btw, one of my 2 LRM mechs is an lrm 90 Roflcat made of glass (about 2 tons of armor, a 4th of that on the cockpit, lol).... haven`t tried it today, but if LRMs are really definitely OP, I will know beyond a shadow of a doubt tomorrow.

Then again, 90 lrms just ******* hurt and always have, I`m not so sure I can tell the difference between a one hit and a one hit. And even with 2 whole lances of Atlas Ks hugging each other, about 10 are still going to get through,muahahaha

*edit* Come to think of it, that may even be part of the rationale, make AMS more attractive as a general item.... Not necessarily a "must have" like ECM on an ECM mech or BAP on, well, almost anything, but it `s definitely a much better idea to equip AMS now than it was yesterday.... which is good, because ever since the missile nerf almost nobody took them anymore. I would say that`s a fine thing in principle

Edited by Zerberus, 21 May 2013 - 02:58 PM.

[PeekaBoo I C Ju]

People, Lrms are not OP...and you are just seeing more of them because everyone's lrm boats have been parked for 2 months....it will calm down trust me, till then learn some tactics and find some cover

[Sturmforge]

Peekaboo I C JU, on 21 May 2013 - 02:50 PM, said:

People, Lrms are not OP...and you are just seeing more of them because everyone's lrm boats have been parked for 2 months....it will calm down trust me, till then learn some tactics and find some cover

Right. Like that works when most of the cover is not cover anymore.