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[Stoicblitzer]

i'm having fun.

[Kraven Kor]

Appogee, on 22 May 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

Minor correction, even when you're hugging the wall, the missiles come down on you and somehow pass through your head and hit your CT (!)

Other than that I think your comments were fair and reasonable.

I have not had this experience; cover still works fine for me, or seems to.

I died more to Machine Guns last night than I did LRMs :oO:

[William Mountbank]

Livewyr is right, after a bit of work figuring out the best new strategies, I think LRMs only need the extreme terminal angles tweaked and they're great for stirring up action.

And I say that from the cockpit of a Spider - it's like spotting for targets is actually a reasonable thing to be doing.

[Waking One]

I hear poptart meta is great.

[Vodrin Thales]

Ryokens leap, on 22 May 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

OP must have been playing vs new players that wander around in the open and didn't bother to send a team to harass LRM boats. Yes I saw plenty of LRMs on patch day, none of the killed me nor damaged me significantly.

Pretty much this except I died once because I go impatient and did something very stupid. High powered LRM's are the stupid check.

Cover only fails if another enemy is spotting you. Solution is to kill or drive off the spotter.

Edited by Vodrin Thales, 22 May 2013 - 01:20 PM.

[XFactor777]

last night playing on frozen city I watched a lrm volley go up at a very rigid angle go flat (like 0 degrees flat) over a building then start its descent yah they are broken right now

[AntiCitizenJuan]

Been playing most of today. It needs tweaks but its still better than poptardpocalypse

[Owlfeathers]

Rhent, on 22 May 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

I hate to burst your bubble, but aiming:
4 PPC's at a target isn't hard
6 ML's at a target isn't hard
6 SRM6's at a target isn't hard

My heart pumps **** for people who think LRM's are easy mode in comparison to the other extremely easy weapon options the game offers.

Agreed, none of those are very hard (well, ERPPCs at 1000m+ is a bit harder), but at least you have to aim and see your target. And none of them go over walls twice as tall as the target.

edit: Also, LRMs hit CT almost 100% of the time without even having to aim.

Edited by Owlfeathers, 22 May 2013 - 01:26 PM.

[Zerberus]

SixBottles, on 22 May 2013 - 12:13 PM, said:

what? hitting someone with lasers and do a reasonable amount of damage to ONE bodypart is EASY?! what? ...wait, what? u serious?

Unless you have Parkinson`s Disease, yes.

[Demonic]

I will say only 1 thing:

I spent playing Mechwarrior 4 years (2) of my life, waiting too long for the miracle day i read "Mechwarrior 5 is under development", now, we are here... 10 day since my last login into MWO, I feel... bad, how can I describe.. dissapointed?...

Edited by Demonic, 22 May 2013 - 01:38 PM.

[William Mountbank]

I played all the mechwarrior games since MW2. I think MWO is great, patches and all.

[Slab Squathrust]

Zerberus, on 22 May 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Unless you have Parkinson`s Disease, yes.

And this is why we need the ability to down vote...

[Akulakhan]

Rhent, on 22 May 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

I hate to burst your bubble, but aiming:
4 PPC's at a target isn't hard
6 ML's at a target isn't hard
6 SRM6's at a target isn't hard

My heart pumps **** for people who think LRM's are easy mode in comparison to the other extremely easy weapon options the game offers.

I think you're confused. You actually have to AIM all those things. And they won't go up and over walls and buildings.

Poptarting is boring ( I haven't taken out my Cataphract since like, February) but LRMs are just so fail when a game should be skill-based it's stomach-turning. When you know there's a handful of players on both teams doing nothing but standing still with their mouths open hitting the left mouse button and having their missiles arc over creation, how can you say this meta is any better?

Insta-convergence PPCs were not very hard, but they at least took 3 brain cells to use correctly. I'm not sure LRM's even take two.

[HighlandCoo]

I'm having fun. BTW for all you folks complaining - even when the splash damage and arc is "fixed" - LRM's are still going to be a feature on the battlefield, get used to it.

[Akulakhan]

HighlandCoo, on 22 May 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

I'm having fun. BTW for all you folks complaining - even when the splash damage and arc is "fixed" - LRM's are still going to be a feature on the battlefield, get used to it.

Somehow, I doubt it. This statement hasn't turned out to be the truth in any of the previous three LRM Apocalypse patches, why would this be any different?

Aside from the ahem, "arc," what is buffing LRMs to an I Win button is the incredibly baffling way splash damage is calculated and adversely-to-the-extreme affects the CT. Once the missile mouthbreathers don't get the mad easy kills from coring out an enemy they don't even have to look at, I would bet a good many C-bills that the number of LRMboats will fall dramatically.

Funny, it's kind of like how you see less 3Ds now, eh?

[Kraven Kor]

Zerberus, on 22 May 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

Unless you have Parkinson`s Disease, yes.

I must occasionally have parkinsons, then.

It is not impossible to do, but I would not call holding a Large Laser on the Left Torso of a Raven while it is moving 149kph - for the entire beam duration - "Easy."

[Royce Mathers]

Kraven Kor, on 22 May 2013 - 02:11 PM, said:

I must occasionally have parkinsons, then.

It is not impossible to do, but I would not call holding a Large Laser on the Left Torso of a Raven while it is moving 149kph - for the entire beam duration - "Easy."

hitting a raven moving 149 kph with an LRM is not even possible though. lrms only move 120----mechs move faster than a missile flying through the air--think about that. Why aren't all of those mechs taking off and flying since they move faster than a flying missile? They need to fix arc--that I agree with. and splash. but as an LRM user who does pop up to shoot my own targets---I am actually a visible target longer than ppc or gauss cannon or large laser users. They pop up =shoot-pop down. I have to pop up--shoot---hold on target like 3 seconds--then pop down. The large damage you see from LRMs is only if they get the artemis bonus---you need to have your own lock on to do that--which means more time under the enemy guns.

[FupDup]

Royce Mathers, on 22 May 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

hitting a raven moving 149 kph with an LRM is not even possible though. lrms only move 120----mechs move faster than a missile flying through the air--think about that. Why aren't all of those mechs taking off and flying since they move faster than a flying missile? They need to fix arc--that I agree with. and splash. but as an LRM user who does pop up to shoot my own targets---I am actually a visible target longer than ppc or gauss cannon or large laser users. They pop up =shoot-pop down. I have to pop up--shoot---hold on target like 3 seconds--then pop down. The large damage you see from LRMs is only if they get the artemis bonus---you need to have your own lock on to do that--which means more time under the enemy guns.

LRM: 120 meters per second

Raven: 150.2 kilometers per hour = 150200 meters per hour = 41.72 meters per second


Units make a difference.

[Hotthedd]

Joseph Mallan, on 22 May 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Artillerymen. I used to enjoy doing this to people. Killing you from far away helps Me stay alive. Sorry Hott but no everyone thinks the same way.

Never said it wasn't EFFECTIVE. And if I risked actually dying, okay. But is it FUN?

Thorqemada, on 22 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

So how is that worse than the Pre-Patch Meta where Canageroo Assaults carrying 3 to 6 High Alpha Weapons reaping anything apart beyond viewing range?

I don't recall saying it was better. Could you point that part of my statement out?

Ryokens leap, on 22 May 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

OP must have been playing vs new players that wander around in the open and didn't bother to send a team to harass LRM boats. Yes I saw plenty of LRMs on patch day, none of the killed me nor damaged me significantly.

Caustic Valley is nothing but open. What used to be cover no longer is.

[Sheraf]

Check out the side of the volcano for high cover in Caustic Valley, instead of going to the volcano