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[arghmace]

I don't really see the old Streak Pult that viable anymore since you can put 4 streaks on a JM6-A and accompany them with dual ultras and even some lasers.

[El Bandito]

Pando, on 26 May 2013 - 12:37 AM, said:

Something like http://mwo.smurfy-ne...934b71d5bea57cf <---?

Pfft. Stalker 5M with FIVE SSRMS and Dual PPCs is better at killing A1s. Much faster and better PPC fire angle.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6a4de1b735d64d6

Say good bye to stupid A1s. No way eight A1s can beat eight 5Ms.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 May 2013 - 02:46 AM.

[Pando]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 02:17 AM, said:

Pfft. Stalker 5M with FIVE SSRMS and Dual PPCs is better at killing A1s. Much faster and better PPC fire angle.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...97975e74a175e98

Say good bye to stupid A1s. No way eight A1s can beat eight 5Ms.

I would rather run the 4x4 ppc/ssrm2 with dual AMS if I were bringing stalkers. 8 of them

[El Bandito]

Pando, on 26 May 2013 - 02:31 AM, said:

I would rather run the 4x4 ppc/ssrm2 with dual AMS if I were bringing stalkers. 8 of them

All Stalkers can do that but Quad PPC is too heat intensive in a brawl.

Bottom line is, eight A1s are easy to beat as long as you know the other side is gonna get them.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 May 2013 - 03:06 AM.

[JohnathanSwift]

Vercinaigh, on 26 May 2013 - 02:14 AM, said:

Most of these guys here are from my unit and are either new to the game, new to 8mans, or barely play.

As such since you've seen it fit to brag about a easy win, Team 007 from Head Hunters of Davion is calling you out. PM me with a time frame, we will be there, bring anything you like, see how you stand up to a -team- instead of casuals.

Good day sir

5th Battalion Executive Officer, Team 007 Captain
~Vercinaigh

Who?

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 02:47 AM, said:

Bottom line is, eight A1s are easy to beat as long as you know the other side is gonna get them.

just shoot the ears off right?

[Furmansky]

JohnathanSwift, on 25 May 2013 - 09:23 PM, said:

Give me 8 of a kind that can beat 8 A1 streakcats

8 Closely Coordinated D-DC's With ECM's 3X streaks and mix of Medium to long range other weapons all with AMS...
A1's still could just possibly do it with good tactics, but that would basically meant Atlas team made a horrible mistake...
And cats are faster so cap would be an option.
But well coordinated battle 8 v 8 of those two would left kitties in really bad fighting position.

[El Bandito]

JohnathanSwift, on 26 May 2013 - 02:48 AM, said:

just shoot the ears off right?

You blind or what? Read my post on top of the page. Stalkers with PPC + SSRMs > A1.

5M especially.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 May 2013 - 03:29 AM.

[JohnathanSwift]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 03:23 AM, said:

You blind or what? Read my post on top of the page. Stalkers with PPC + SSRMs > A1.

We've stomped all of that.

The only option against the 8 a1 is to not engage, a few RHOD tryhards even attempted their own little methods.

ECM, setting up a base of fire with PPC, AC2's, AC5's, Returning with streaks and LURMS.


They carry BAP, AMS, a full range of motion, good speed and armor and more streaks.


Direct fire and some slow mechs aren't going to fight this well, your only option is to tap out.

And even then it's not a sure thing, picture related, whoo boy 1 cat for 2 ravens trying for a cap.

[El Bandito]

JohnathanSwift, on 26 May 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

We've stomped all of that. The only option against the 8 a1 is to not engage, a few RHOD tryhards even attempted their own little methods. ECM, setting up a base of fire with PPC, AC2's, AC5's, Returning with streaks and LURMS. They carry BAP, AMS, a full range of motion, good speed and armor and more streaks. Direct fire and some slow mechs aren't going to fight this well, your only option is to tap out. And even then it's not a sure thing, picture related, whoo boy 1 cat for 2 ravens trying for a cap.

So what if you beat some mixed group. Show me where you beat EIGHT Stalkers premade team with PPC+SSRM combo and then talk. Unless those Stalker pilots are utterly dumb, there is no way they will lose to eight A1s.

Edited by El Bandito, 26 May 2013 - 03:44 AM.

[Kaspirikay]

Don't forget good A1 pilots use JJs for more than just manuvering.

[JohnathanSwift]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 03:43 AM, said:

So what if you beat some mixed group. Show me where you beat EIGHT Stalkers premade team with PPC+SSRM combo and then talk. Unless those Stalker pilots are utterly dumb, there is no way they will lose to eight A1s.

you mean like in the OP?

[El Bandito]

Kaspirikay, on 26 May 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

Don't forget good A1 pilots use JJs for more than just manuvering.

Still not gonna do crap against SSRMs.

[JohnathanSwift]

Kaspirikay, on 26 May 2013 - 03:44 AM, said:

Don't forget good A1 pilots use JJs for more than just manuvering.

I once sat on the head of a highlander while streaking him in his cockpit.

[El Bandito]

JohnathanSwift, on 26 May 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

you mean like in the OP?

I tell you to show me 8 Stalkers, and you show me mixed group again. What's up with ur brain?

[JohnathanSwift]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 03:46 AM, said:

Still not gonna do crap against SSRMs.

he has a like on his post, that makes it valid meow :3

[Nexus Omega]

Assuming equally skilled teams, my money would be on the 8x Stalkers/Highlanders/DDC's
Interestingly all of those suggestions involve bringing streaks...

I would also put my money on 8x Iyla or any decent Phact build, (8 Koreanese's Piloting 3D's comes to mind)
Can't Torso twist when you are maintaining an SSRM Lock, the Cat has a large center Torso after all,
Or 8xAC40 Jagers, nearly any 8 FOTM builds I guess

Mathematically: anything that can out DPS the Streak cats really,

PS: I am assuming both teams are intent on clashing in combat, as you have stated Capping is a win for the opponents.

Edit:
This is of course hypothetical really.

I mean very Good teams, not equally bad teams.

Edited by Nexus Omega, 26 May 2013 - 03:55 AM.

[JohnathanSwift]

El Bandito, on 26 May 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

I tell you to show me 8 Stalkers, and you show me mixed group again. What's up with ur brain?

Stalkers have even worse situational awareness, manuevering and suffer the streak splash harder.

[Kaspirikay]

JohnathanSwift, on 26 May 2013 - 03:47 AM, said:

he has a like on his post, that makes it valid meow :3

I validate your validation

[JohnathanSwift]

Kaspirikay, on 26 May 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

I validate your validation

Pomp and circumstance good sir!

Nexus Omega, on 26 May 2013 - 03:48 AM, said:

Assuming equally skilled teams, my money would be on the 8x Stalkers/Highlanders/DDC's
Interestingly all of those suggestions involve bringing streaks...

I would also put my money on 8x Iyla or any decent Phact build, (8 Koreanese's Piloting 3D's comes to mind)
Can't Torso twist when you are maintaining an SSRM Lock, the Cat has a large center Torso after all,
Or 8xAC40 Jagers, nearly any 8 FOTM builds I guess

Mathematically: anything that can out DPS the Streak cats really,

PS: I am assuming both teams are intent on clashing in combat, as you have stated Capping is a win for the opponents.

8 Homing AC20's that never miss, can be fired out of LOS, always hit the CT carrying JJ's, best movement and great tonnage.

Thats 144 damage to the CT every 2 seconds, thats 1 entire mech every 2 seconds.

Humans make mistakes, streaks do not.

[El Bandito]

So this is the best you can come up with?

Sad.