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[Carrioncrows]

.............Horribly Awesome!

I've never had to hit someone with a two-by-four to convince them that this is a DAMN good mech but apparently there are some people out there who just refuse to believe.

The Blackjack is amazing, there are no bad Blackjacks only bad Blackjack pilots....or possibly unlucky as hell.



And it's not a fluke, I put up exceptional numbers all night long with this monster.

[Lord Perversor]

While i can agree with the awesomenes of a BJ well done and properly handed they are some of the best experiences in the game i had in long time.


P.S: seriously? a n00b Atlas stop in front of you and you choose to go full ballistic on him heads on? you was lucky there, if that Atlas pilot would be half skilled your BJ would been blow up in a matter of seconds, always surround and gain their backs, remember your BJ it's paper thin vs heavier oponents.

[KharnZor]

Lord Perversor, on 28 May 2013 - 01:29 AM, said:

While i can agree with the awesomenes of a BJ well done and properly handed they are some of the best experiences in the game i had in long time.


P.S: seriously? a n00b Atlas stop in front of you and you choose to go full ballistic on him heads on? you was lucky there, if that Atlas pilot would be half skilled your BJ would been blow up in a matter of seconds, always surround and gain their backs, remember your BJ it's paper thin vs heavier oponents.

Underlined for truth.
I myself prefer an ac20 and 3 med lasers

[Kmieciu]

A Blackjack would be a nice choice, if we had tonnage restrictions.

Right now you can take CPLT-K2 that is 20 tonnes heavier, but faster (82 kph with XL300), has better armor, better hit boxes (side torso is well protected, cockpit soaks some of the CT damage), takes more ammo (175 UAC5 rounds), uses 4 Medium Lasers and mounts 15 DHS.

CPLT-K2 2xUAC5 4xML

Edited by Kmieciu, 28 May 2013 - 02:46 AM.

[Carrioncrows]

I can upload the match where I take a Highlander head to head, or Awesome, or any number of ones head to head.

He had a ER PPC, ER Large, and a x2 AC5's hardly Fo Shame.

I suppose coring the highlander and killing the Hunchback was luck on my part too.

9 tons of armor is hardly paper thin, she's a lot tougher than most people give her credit.

1v1 if I can choose where the engagement happens and what range, i'll back this mech against anything out there because....

......I prefer to make my own luck. =)

Edited by Carrioncrows, 28 May 2013 - 03:23 AM.

[MrTarget]

Carrioncrows, on 28 May 2013 - 12:25 AM, said:

The Blackjack is amazing, there are no bad Blackjacks only bad Blackjack pilots....or possibly unlucky as

This, a mech may be the best thing in the world to you, but to another pilot they may think it was the worst thing ever. Personally I think the blackjack gets too hot and that a Cicada can do the job better due to it allowing bigger engines and thusly more heat sinks.

But...

If you have found a build that works, fair play! Have fun, stomp things!

[Curccu]

OH NO! You cheated me. I thought this was another QQ but instead it's something positive...
But yes I totally agree with OP.

[MeiSooHaityu]

As much as I like my Hunchback Swayback (9MLasers), I have seen a similar setup in a Blackjack. I am curious if the Blackjack does this better (because of the ultra vulnerable right torso on the Hunch). If the Blackjack has similar speed and armor, I can think of 1 configuration the Blackjack does better then the Hunch. Pains me to say, because I do like the Hunchback.

[Appogee]

It does seem like a fun Mech to play if you take advantage of the manoeverability that so many JJs on such a small chassis presents.

They seem to have the advantages of a fast cicada but with JJs.

[Bagheera]

Kmieciu, on 28 May 2013 - 02:42 AM, said:

cockpit soaks some of the CT damage

And the winner of the "When Life Gives You Lemons" award goes to Kmieciu! You have to be the first person to ever mention the CAT head hitbox as a positive. Good on you.

Carrioncrows, on 28 May 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

9 tons of armor is hardly paper thin, she's a lot tougher than most people give her credit.

It's almost silly the number of people who forget that stock armor values are irrelevant.

"Jager sucks because low armor!!!" Funny, mine have beetwen 384-416 depending on the build.

"BJ has paper thin armor!" Sure, in a stock config. Maxed it should only be a couple of points per section lower than a 50 ton mech.

[Butane9000]

I chalk it up to the same reason people don't like the Awesome. They just don't know how to build or pilot them right.

[MajorChunks]

I've been slowly falling in love with what is basically a stock BJ-1. I follow a fatlas around, people ignore me, and I get easily 400-500 damage a game. If they start to notice, just run and jump over a wall.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...4203cefe98bb3f6

My cents and hunchies are starting to get jealous...

Edited by MajorChunks, 28 May 2013 - 08:41 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Carrioncrows, on 28 May 2013 - 03:18 AM, said:

I can upload the match where I take a Highlander head to head, or Awesome, or any number of ones head to head.

He had a ER PPC, ER Large, and a x2 AC5's hardly Fo Shame.

I suppose coring the highlander and killing the Hunchback was luck on my part too.

9 tons of armor is hardly paper thin, she's a lot tougher than most people give her credit.

1v1 if I can choose where the engagement happens and what range, i'll back this mech against anything out there because....

......I prefer to make my own luck. =)

Agreed, Mr Carrion.

I have found the 2 I have so far to be very effective, even considering my "borrowed" low end Mexico Wifi (coming through 2 concrete walls) and badly overheating laptop (apparently it has to work a lot harder at my current place than when I used it at the local Starbucks, mebbe due to the wifi strength?). And I have taken on Cataphracts and Awesomes toe to toe, well OK< dancing around their toes, using either my JJs or my 1X's high speed to run circles around them, juke and generally minimize hits.

Where it has gone poorly has been when one of his teammates come to help, then the thin armor does tend to rear it's head, but a Hunch or Centy ain't gonna last any longer, so whatever!

MeiSooHaityu, on 28 May 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

As much as I like my Hunchback Swayback (9MLasers), I have seen a similar setup in a Blackjack. I am curious if the Blackjack does this better (because of the ultra vulnerable right torso on the Hunch). If the Blackjack has similar speed and armor, I can think of 1 configuration the Blackjack does better then the Hunch. Pains me to say, because I do like the Hunchback.

THe BJ does it WAY better. In part because the small side torsos protect XLs real nice, so I can cruise about 108 or so in mine using a 280XL, with 8 Medium Lasers. Sure, like the 4P you can overheat it easy if you get too aggressive, but I have only shutdown a handful of times, tbh, But that extra speed over the Hunch, and spread weapons? Priceless.

[Deathlike]

Butane9000, on 28 May 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

I chalk it up to the same reason people don't like the Awesome. They just don't know how to build or pilot them right.

Unlike the Awesome, the BJ can hide behind other mechs and has either speed (BJ-1X) or mobility (jjs on the BJ-1 and BJ-3) to be useful. The Awesome's hitboxes are still... comical.

[Carrioncrows]

http://www.twitch.tv...ows/b/409325229

7 mins - BJ vs Atlas, Catapult, Jager and another atlas. I get lucky on the Jager and go down to the 2nd atlas
14 mins - 3 PPC Blackjack
22 Mins - My Enforcer blackjack - I account for myself decently but seeing all the metal coming my way and they on my base I can hardly use my Mobility since i'm tethered to the base.

The only thing wrong with my PPC Blackjack is how often I fire, see the hit, see the cursor turn red and not a damn bit of damage is taken by the enemy mech.

Edited by Carrioncrows, 28 May 2013 - 09:30 AM.

[Spheroid]

MeiSooHaityu, on 28 May 2013 - 05:38 AM, said:

As much as I like my Hunchback Swayback (9MLasers), I have seen a similar setup in a Blackjack. I am curious if the Blackjack does this better (because of the ultra vulnerable right torso on the Hunch). If the Blackjack has similar speed and armor, I can think of 1 configuration the Blackjack does better then the Hunch. Pains me to say, because I do like the Hunchback.

Yep the BJ-1X is better as a medium laser boat. However the 4P is pretty much playable from purchase, you have to spend some coin to get the BJ-1X acceptable with a 280-295XL. I run 8 mlas, BAP, AMS, endo, 17 DHS with a 295XL. Seismic and Target Info for modules.

Edited by Spheroid, 28 May 2013 - 11:18 AM.

[Bishop Steiner]

Spheroid, on 28 May 2013 - 11:17 AM, said:

Yep the BJ-1X is better as a medium laser boat. However the 4P is pretty much playable from purchase, you have to spend some coin to get the BJ-1X acceptable with a 280-295XL. I run 8 mlas, BAP, AMS, endo, 17 DHS with a 295XL. Seismic and Target Info for modules.

sadly, I can hardly consider the 4P playable from scratch, as it basically gets amputated so fast against any decent competition I end up in a 2 Medium laser mech missing it's right side!

And no amount of cbills or mc can fix that issue!

[Carrioncrows]

I've taken to reducing the 4P's Right Rear Torso armor down to 2, and put the rest in the front.

The RRT is so small anyways, I get a few more seconds of use out of the shoulder that way.

[MeiSooHaityu]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 May 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

THe BJ does it WAY better. In part because the small side torsos protect XLs real nice, so I can cruise about 108 or so in mine using a 280XL, with 8 Medium Lasers. Sure, like the 4P you can overheat it easy if you get too aggressive, but I have only shutdown a handful of times, tbh, But that extra speed over the Hunch, and spread weapons? Priceless.

Hmm, food for thought. I am currently working on the Raven XP tree now. Once I finish, I will have to use all the C-Bills I earned and try the BJ-1X mech out.

[Johnny Reb]

Let the haters hate!