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[Khanahar]

Kiiyor, on 28 May 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

Well, they are indestructible!

Not on high graphics they're not!

Skyfaller, on 28 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

I don't get what the excitement is about.

2 ppc...2 ac2... 2 med lasers...

yeah ok energy in the hands is nifty but this is essentially the same as the -S but with 2 energy shoved into the arms.

Firepower wise you can do this same setup on the -S.

..and in any case, the DD still outperforms it when equipping 5 AC2s and 2 med lasers.

2ppc+2ac2+2 med laser = 20+8 (one second of firing)+10.. so 38dmg in one second with a very high heat footprint.
5AC2 with 2 med laser = 20 (one second of firing)+10 .. so 30 dmg in one second with a minimal heat footprint.

[sigh] It's more fun being exited about things, I promise. Also, ghetto Rifleman is just what the Dr. ordered.

Bishop Steiner, on 28 May 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

hmmmm... if being smart and using cover = cowardice, does that equate being "brave" as being stupid and standing out in the open?

Real men strip all armor from their 'mech and charge for melee damage like mother-f***ing zerglings.

[Kiiyor]

Bishop Steiner, on 28 May 2013 - 08:12 PM, said:

hmmmm... if being smart and using cover = cowardice, does that equate being "brave" as being stupid and standing out in the open?

I like the cut of your jib there.

If I were to live by that analogy, I would rather be a live coward than a dead brave... person.

Maybe bravery should equate to the amount of firepower you can bring to bear whilst remaining in cover? We can make raw figures!

For example: If a Yagerbomb has to expose 20% of it's mass to enemy fire to be able to use 100% of it's weaponry, then it is 100% brave. The intelligence rating of the pilot then decreases linearly depending on how much excess mass is exposed: At 20% exposed, they are 100% brave, and 100% smart. At 60% exposed, they are 100% brave, yet only 50% smart.

If an Atlas on the other hand exposes 40% of it's mass, yet can only fire 10% of it's weapons, then it is only 10% brave. That's 90% coward. Those are big numbers.

These figures should totally be displayed on your HUD, relative to whoever you have targeted. Betty could even have soundbytes for it. "Warning: stupid level, critical"

Wait - that would mean that poptarts are 100% brave as they bounce merrily across the landscape. If they expose 100% of their mass though, it makes them 100% stupid.

What the crap am I talking about? I need coffee.

Khanahar, on 28 May 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

Not on high graphics they're not!

WHAT IS THIS SORCERY? maybe I haven't seen it as my PC runs on 0.23 FPS on high.

Khanahar, on 28 May 2013 - 09:48 PM, said:

Real men strip all armor from their 'mech and charge for melee damage like mother-f***ing zerglings.

I don't always strip the armour from my mech, but when I do, I cram in 4 UAC5s.

[Sephlock]

skull broke, on 28 May 2013 - 09:47 PM, said:

black-red-gold? my first thought? the german banner colors. no surprise for me... the translation of the word "jäger" (ger) = "hunter" (eng). it is a victor-steiner-davion construction. i think with that heavy hero hunter mech skilled people can do mass of damage. however i own the dd and i cause with that model 400 to 600 damage per match. a good armed firebrand jm will do a good deal more.

http://www.redgold.c.../recipe-details

[627]

if i think how popular jagermechs still are, i think they could make good money with this.

If it's 4875MC (75/ton) that thing would cost 19.50$ (if 250mc=1$).

I think i'll buy one, looks fantastic.

[Johnny Reb]

Not interested in any hero till its on sale then......

[Appogee]

I like the sound of it and also hero mechs in general due to the +30% CBills.

However, I have a feeling it's going to be around the $25 mark, which like the Misery, makes it too expensive a proposition. I mean, that's half what I paid for the entire game of Bioshock Infinite. (My X-5 by contrast was worth the investment.)

While I'm probably a whale in terms of spending capacity and love of MechWarrior, I won't support crazy pricing.

None of the above is meant to be a complaint. Just explaining why, even though I like the look of the Mech and its loadout, I probably wont get one.

[Kyynele]

Looks nice.

I am disappointed though.

So, after a typically PPC + ballistic Assault Heavy Metal, we got typically PPC + ballistic Assault Misery, we now get a PPC + Ballistic Heavy Firebrand. A fast Hero mech would've been a nice change, since there's only X-5 so far.

Also, if I recall correctly, PGI announced that the next 2 mechs after Heavy Metal would be based on existing variants, after which they'll consider another go at the Hero before Standard variants, which could mean that the next Hero after this one will be based on the Victor, which is another Assault with likely PPCs and ballistics.

Boring.

[627]

Appogee, on 29 May 2013 - 12:32 AM, said:

I like the sound of it and also hero mechs in general due to the +30% CBills.

However, I have a feeling it's going to be around the $25 mark, which like the Misery, makes it too expensive a proposition. I mean, that's half what I paid for the entire game of Bioshock Infinite. (My X-5 by contrast was worth the investment.)

While I'm probably a whale in terms of spending capacity and love of MechWarrior, I won't support crazy pricing.

None of the above is meant to be a complaint. Just explaining why, even though I like the look of the Mech and its loadout, I probably wont get one.

Every Hero till today was priced after tonnage, 75mc per ton. I doubt they'll change that. It should be right between fang/flame and the ilya.

[MonkeyCheese]

627, on 29 May 2013 - 12:58 AM, said:

Every Hero till today was priced after tonnage, 75mc per ton. I doubt they'll change that. It should be right between fang/flame and the ilya.

The range of the prices is a fair and even scale at 75MC per ton.

You could buy one 100ton hero atlas for 7500MC or you could buy five 20ton hero fleas for 1500MC each. Every mc package other than the 7USD one will let you buy at least one hero mech once they are all released.

[JudgeDeathCZ]

Can I haz Spideor hero too please? -.-

[Rigiroth]

I'm kind of annoyed with this mech...I bought the Jager DD even though it is in inferior to the other Jagers because I thought the next hero would be a light.

[Morang]

I don't like the course of PGI. ******* 4th heavy hero. We also have 3 hero assaults. Give mediums and lights some love already.

I want Hero Flea - disregard weapons, add Jump Jets and ECM to MASC!

[5th Fedcom Rat]

I don't see any pressing reason to buy this until perhaps it goes on sale in the future. Founder's cash is now exhausted so when these things start requiring new paypal injections, I take a harder critical look at them.

Its loadout can already be done by Jager S, and arguably better by the Catapult K2 with its protected side torsos.

Would've preferred a 12 ballistic hardpoint Jager to load up with machine guns ala the Piranha.

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Edited by 5th Fedcom Rat, 29 May 2013 - 02:56 AM.

[TexAce]

The texture job is extremely good. Hats off.

[Matthew Ace]

Rather than a Rifleman, looks like we get the Jagermech III.

[Noesis]

[Curccu]

Kanajashi, on 28 May 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

My only thought is "where is my wallet?"

My only thought is "where is my Hero spider!?!"

[AlexEss]

I would guess that popularity plays in to what chassis get a hero and in what order. But seeing as it now stands at

Light 1
Medium:2
Heavy:4(3)
Assault: 3

it stands to reason that the next hero will be a light. And since the Jenner is most likley on the bottom of the list and the raven does not have much you can do with it.. I'd wager a spider. So people.. chill the frak out

[OneEyed Jack]

Kiiyor, on 28 May 2013 - 07:19 PM, said:

Now, I can unleash torrents of both PPC and Ultra Dakka cheese upon my enemies from relative cowardly comfort behind a hill, with just the barest hint of my arms peeking over!

Don't pee to pee in your Cheerios, but you realize that you can't actually see to shoot like that, right?

Skyfaller, on 28 May 2013 - 07:55 PM, said:

Firepower wise you can do this same setup on the -S.

..and in any case, the DD still outperforms it when equipping 5 AC2s and 2 med lasers.

2ppc+2ac2+2 med laser = 20+8 (one second of firing)+10.. so 38dmg in one second with a very high heat footprint.
5AC2 with 2 med laser = 20 (one second of firing)+10 .. so 30 dmg in one second with a minimal heat footprint.

Oh, that gave me a good chuckle.

[DarkDevilDancer]

Had no desire to get the misery but I'm tempted with this, damnit I've been good with my budget up till now.