113 replies to this topic

[Sigma Achilles]

Look i have beta'd a few games. DIablo 2, COD MW3, and others. I don't think you should get one just because you are a hard core fan. YOu need to have the knowledge base to be a beta tester. I do think hard core fans should get some perks. But a beta test is about working out any bugs that can be found. Not getting a few weeks of game play before anyone esle. I'd rather be passed on as a beta and get a great game with little bugs then get a beta test, and have a bunch of people who know little about bug reports and the like. Because then you only get a bug filled game with lots of down time at it's release. NO I say give me a great game.

[DaZur]

Mirties Masina, on 08 June 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

BTW DaZur, I grew up in Waukesha... 'Sup Homie?

Firstly, let me greet you properly.... GO PACK GO! !

Just waiting for nice weather to return (Think today might actually hit the 80's though) and Summerfest will be here very soon too...

You still pronounce it " Waa - Kee - Shaww?

[TheFreeman]

Mechpriest, on 08 June 2012 - 05:21 AM, said:

Then you're obviously not all that good at looking/searching for information. There's tons of leaked screenshots, information and some footage. Only problem with leaked footage and screenshots is, that you need to edit it so that it won't show your ID's.

Then could you give a link? I was searching everywhere and I just can't find it. Also, you know what they say: "link or it didn't happen"...

[Renan Ruivo]

BenEEeees VAT GROWN BACON, on 08 June 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

I'm actually amazed at how well disciplined the closed beta players are - 2000+ players and no leaks on youtube or other video sites that I can find.

This must be a first for such a game, other popular closed betas have vids up within the day.

It's a LIE.

There are no closed beta players. No beta key has been handed out.

[DaZur]

Sigma Achilles, on 08 June 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

Look i have beta'd a few games. DIablo 2, COD MW3, and others. I don't think you should get one just because you are a hard core fan. YOu need to have the knowledge base to be a beta tester. I do think hard core fans should get some perks. But a beta test is about working out any bugs that can be found. Not getting a few weeks of game play before anyone esle. I'd rather be passed on as a beta and get a great game with little bugs then get a beta test, and have a bunch of people who know little about bug reports and the like. Because then you only get a bug filled game with lots of down time at it's release. NO I say give me a great game.

[GHQCommander]

TheFreeman, on 08 June 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:

Then could you give a link? I was searching everywhere and I just can't find it. Also, you know what they say: "link or it didn't happen"...

There are web masters who itch to get into beta and leak. The traffic from a 10 second clip or few screenshot of beta is valuable. Despite the legal stuff, there is not a lot that would be done, just a warning and account ban if they knew the handle.

Renan Ruivo, on 08 June 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

It's a LIE.

There are no closed beta players. No beta key has been handed out.

Yes, your right, it is a conspiracy.

They are doing it to get us excited and make us wet ourselves aren't they. Evil sons of a *******!!! I knew there was something not right. The devs probably shared the beta keys out between themselves and THEY are doing the beta testing. Where is SUPERMAN when you need him?

What has the world come to?

[Renan Ruivo]

GHQCommander, on 08 June 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

Where is SUPERMAN when you need him?

I believe he is having a hard time after filing for divorce from his high-school sweetheart because of financial problems. And that after being beat by The Rock and Brock Lesnar in a row.... hmm hmm.

[Chuckie]

DaZur, on 08 June 2012 - 05:04 AM, said:

I DESERVE A BETA KEY ! ! !

<snip>

Random my butt... I'm being black-listed... I know it.

I am having the same feeling (From a previous post)

Chuckie said:

.... I think they are sticking to a random selection process to be "fair"..

<snip>

Personally at this time I'm starting to take it a bit personal.

1) I think Paul has a thing against Monty Python

2) Bryan was offended by my Bob and Doug Mackenzie posts

3) Russ was upset by my (Almost)Hentai My Little Pony post

4) Matt because I said Canadian beer was swill..

So I am guessing I will just have to wait until July because I have been

BANNED FROM BETA™

No replies though.. and since they didn't reply I can only assume my points were valid..

At this point, I have realized they are doing it random and my luck in random draws isn't very good.

Apparently they are so bugged by "DESERVING FORUM MEMBERS" like yourself, that they are steadfastly NOT giving keys out to those that beg them, or any of us. Unless we are a gaming mag, or something like that we will just have to wait for the random process and luck of the draw like everyone else.

I do truly wish they would at minimum tilt the algorithm in favor of those that have been here and active longer.

I know of at least 3 that got in the Beta, and have not been active in the forum and only joined within the last few weeks. THAT is completely not cool..

Unfortunately, it is what it is and I will just have suck it up and assume I will have to wait until July 17th..

Edited by Chuckie, 08 June 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[st1x]

BenEEeees VAT GROWN BACON, on 08 June 2012 - 05:10 AM, said:

I'm actually amazed at how well disciplined the closed beta players are - 2000+ players and no leaks on youtube or other video sites that I can find.

This must be a first for such a game, other popular closed betas have vids up within the day.

It just goes to show the maturity and respect that the community have for both the IP and the devs. I, for one, would be of the same opinion if i were invited to beta. Oi devs...thats a dare btw...

[Felicitatem Parco]

I do agree that "Closed Beta" should not be treated as "Early Access" but they do have to perform a certain amount of testing in a pseudo-release environment. If everyone spent the entire Closed Beta just bug-hunting, then the Developers would have no chance to test the effectiveness of the in-game economy or get honest opinions from players in regards to how well the gameplay flows 'n junk. Beta Testing is a mix of bug-hunting and "actual" gameplay, but it should not be regarded as a chance to play the game early. That kind of attitude is not conducive to the experimental/improvement process because it causes you to view the game under the pretense of false expectations.

When I did my not-very-exclusive Closed Beta testing for Halo Reach, it was completely full of people who just wanted to play the latest Halo Game ASAP without any regard for Beta Testing, and the folks at Bungie knew this. Their "Beta Feedback Questionnaire" was a complete joke - there were no questions AT ALL about the actual gameplay... they only wanted to collect opinions on the stat-tracking system and the post-game menus. They correctly assumed that the majority of players just wanted to play, and the stat-tracking hype did, indeed, fit in perfectly with that kind of crowd. I uncovered a couple gameplay bugs but was unable to report them because the Closed Beta Questionnaire did not have any function to report bugs... eh, oh well.

We can only hope the current batch of MW:O Closed Beta testers are holdng the "testing" part in higher regard than the "playing" part. Even then, it doesn't mean that they should be seeking out the Best Beta Testers. They have to choose a random sample of people in order to properly represent the gamut of player-types that will be signing on for this game. "Super Beta Testers" may be particularly good at reporting bugs and reproducing errors, but "Casual Players" will be reporting more on their gaming experience and that will help the Devs craft the gameplay style to suit everyone's desires. Without the Casual Beta Testers you'd have a biased feedback pool, and bias is bad.

[Dexter Tripod]

Gouty, on 08 June 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

insert childish laugh here

Glad I wasn't the only one :-P

[GHQCommander]

Prosperity Park, on 08 June 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

I do agree that "Closed Beta" should not be treated as "Early Access" but they do have to perform a certain amount of testing in a pseudo-release environment. If everyone spent the entire Closed Beta just bug-hunting, then the Developers would have no chance to test the effectiveness of the in-game economy or get honest opinions from players in regards to how well the gameplay flows 'n junk. Beta Testing is a mix of bug-hunting and "actual" gameplay, but it should not be regarded as a chance to play the game early. That kind of attitude is not conducive to the experimental/improvement process because it causes you to view the game under the pretense of false expectations.

When I did my not-very-exclusive Closed Beta testing for Halo Reach, it was completely full of people who just wanted to play the latest Halo Game ASAP without any regard for Beta Testing, and the folks at Bungie knew this. Their "Beta Feedback Questionnaire" was a complete joke - there were no questions AT ALL about the actual gameplay... they only wanted to collect opinions on the stat-tracking system and the post-game menus. They correctly assumed that the majority of players just wanted to play, and the stat-tracking hype did, indeed, fit in perfectly with that kind of crowd. I uncovered a couple gameplay bugs but was unable to report them because the Closed Beta Questionnaire did not have any function to report bugs... eh, oh well.

We can only hope the current batch of MW:O Closed Beta testers are holdng the "testing" part in higher regard than the "playing" part. Even then, it doesn't mean that they should be seeking out the Best Beta Testers. They have to choose a random sample of people in order to properly represent the gamut of player-types that will be signing on for this game. "Super Beta Testers" may be particularly good at reporting bugs and reproducing errors, but "Casual Players" will be reporting more on their gaming experience and that will help the Devs craft the gameplay style to suit everyone's desires. Without the Casual Beta Testers you'd have a biased feedback pool, and bias is bad.

Random sample, yes I like that and it is true.

With my own software I need none developers, developers and people somewhere in the middle. However all my beta testers must mature and understanding about development.

Not always the case though and I've had people put some really strong feedback online about a product not even finished. So random will always include someone who could become a problem.

I too hope some real beta testing is being done.

[AkuPyro]

Been watching for some time, and I do think it is pretty much random as others have said. I believe there may even be some comments from the devs mentioned somewhere that it is all random. In any case, that makes you wonder why you had to fill out all of that info before hand if they will still hand a beta key to someone at random. May just be for stats and info tracking, who knows. Anyways, we are with you in wanting access. I guess I just really want to help in any way to make this game awesome. I love these games, plain and simple. Guess we all do huh?

[Chuckie]

zStorm, on 08 June 2012 - 06:54 AM, said:

o *** I POST SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS AND IN A MUCH NICER AND LESS RUDE WAY AND IT GETS LOCKED!!! *** AND THIS ONE DOESNT

Well there's your problem you were nice and not sarcastic enough

[Kittygrinder]

Sigma Achilles, on 08 June 2012 - 08:02 AM, said:

Look i have beta'd a few games. DIablo 2, COD MW3, and others. I don't think you should get one just because you are a hard core fan. YOu need to have the knowledge base to be a beta tester. I do think hard core fans should get some perks. But a beta test is about working out any bugs that can be found. Not getting a few weeks of game play before anyone esle. I'd rather be passed on as a beta and get a great game with little bugs then get a beta test, and have a bunch of people who know little about bug reports and the like. Because then you only get a bug filled game with lots of down time at it's release. NO I say give me a great game.

BA HUMBUG. BETA IS SRIOZ BUIZZNEZZZZZ

[Lightfoot]

The one other game I couldn't wait to Beta test was City of Heroes (2004), (MechWarrior 4 beta too of course, but that was just the multiplayer). It didn't take too long to get into CoH beta and was fun. I have Beta tested other MMO's, SWToR most recently, but those beta offers came to me through my email one day. Was never checking them each day to see if I got in. MWO, however, I check 3 or 4 times per day for a Beta invite. I am sure most of you do the same.

Edited by Lightfoot, 08 June 2012 - 08:36 AM.

[Frostiken]

Clopen Betas like this really aren't for finding bugs.

These betas are done to:

- Test the game on a huge variety of hardware.
- Stress test the multiplayer back and frontends.
- Evaluate balance.

They really don't do and aren't expected to do tester-esque things. Real testing involves doing things like shooting a laser at a wall for 4 hours to test for a crash condition.

[Aero Slasher]

DaZur, on 08 June 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

Fuss?.... FUSS?... Fuss? Oh, this isn't fussing... I haven't begun to fuss yet. Delete my recorded cable program to record some cartoon = FUSS. Over-cook my $45.00 steak = FUSS. Leave me in the bathroom with half a sheet of TP on the roll = FUSS. Pass me on the highway only pull into my lane and slow down = FUSS. Trying to open the hermetically sealed clam-shell packaging = FUSS.

rofl

[Chuckie]

Renan Ruivo, on 08 June 2012 - 08:05 AM, said:

It's a LIE.

There are no closed beta players. No beta key has been handed out.

I'm starting to agree.. I think the screen shots on Twitter showing the front end of the Closed Beta are also faked..

Its been too quiet... for there to have given 3000 Random Beta Keys and have nothing leak out..

It's all to get everyone ramped up.. and want the game more thats ALL.. I'm sure of it..

That is of course until I get my Beta Key

Edited by Chuckie, 08 June 2012 - 08:42 AM.

[Striker1980]

Chuckie, on 08 June 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

I'm starting to agree.. I think the screen shots on Twitter showing the front end of the Closed Beta are also faked..

Its been too quiet... for there to have given 3000 Random Beta Keys and have nothing leak out..

It's all to get everyone ramped up.. and want the game more thats ALL.. I'm sure of it..

That is of course until I get my Beta Key

Careful you'll be in a tinfoil hat before July is out if your not careful! <-sarcasm, (see I do use a disclaimer)