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[Dragoon20005]

Bloodshed Romance, on 25 June 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

from what I understand I can keep it and I just got AMD overdrive and ASRock extreme overclock thing to try to monitor it

also it seems I can only change the frequency of the GPU not the amount of RAM

btw about the installation of the RAM was it installed in 1 & 3?

coz in order for Dual Channel mode to work it need to be in #1 & #3 or #2 & #4 slots

i checked also MSI boards, no support for onboard graphics memory settings

gigabyte forget it, the manual is hopeless

biostar rhymes with bull****

seems like Asus is the only FM2 board out ther with support for 2GB of RAM for onboard video memory


zomg you just got a sweet deal from AMD and for free!!!

Edited by Dragoon20005, 25 June 2013 - 11:59 PM.

[Bloodshed Romance]

lol I just gotta do a lot of videos to promote the thing.. but it can run MWO.. thats AWESOME!!! lol
and yeah, I installed them in 1 and 3

[Dragoon20005]

now that you have a sweet system,

get yourself a better cooler and ramp up that GPU!!!

there been reports that ramping the GPU core clock speed instead of the CPU might help boost the fps

do a test to see whats the max speed the Radeon RAM can go before it locks up

[Bloodshed Romance]

ive done a little CPU overclocking, never OCed a GPU and never really done RAM OCs.. although ASRock has a Xboost thing in the biox where if I hit X it apprantly gives everything like a 15% boost... I may try that...

[Dragoon20005]

currently the stock GPU clock is rated at 844Mhz

some have kept the CPU clock stock and bump the GPU clock to 1.1Ghz

although they didnt mentioned what cooler they used

word of advise is get a better cooler unit just to be safe

[Badconduct]

Bloodshed Romance, on 26 June 2013 - 01:01 AM, said:

ive done a little CPU overclocking, never OCed a GPU and never really done RAM OCs.. although ASRock has a Xboost thing in the biox where if I hit X it apprantly gives everything like a 15% boost... I may try that...

It's all pretty straight forward to overclock.

Considering the unit was free, I see no reason not too.

You need to monitor temperatures. If the motherboard doesn't have any software included, use Speedfan.

As for using an Asus board, I always go Asus. Never look back.

[Sen]

https://www.overcloc...ad.php?t=688663

That should give you the basics on overclocking. I say should b/c I'm on the other side of the processor fence and haven't messed with AMD overclocking since the days of the Thuban. . .

[Badconduct]

Sen, on 26 June 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:

https://www.overcloc...ad.php?t=688663

That should give you the basics on overclocking. I say should b/c I'm on the other side of the processor fence and haven't messed with AMD overclocking since the days of the Thuban. . .

Increase the multiplier till it crashes.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot.

Increase the FSB til it crashes.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot.

Balance the FSB and the Multiplier till it crashes. Best to avoid voltage changes though, just watch the temps.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot .

Benchmark, compare benchmarks, run Prime95 and see if it's stable and actually increasing performance and not decreasing it.

OCing the video should be simple.

Edited by Badconduct, 26 June 2013 - 04:41 PM.

[Dragoon20005]

http://www.overclock...00k-apu-review/

http://www.techpower...10-6800K/5.html

http://www.brightsid...00k-review.aspx

all the above 3 reports mentioned it can hit 5Ghz CPU clock at 1.525V before it locks up, and GPU most could hit above 1GHz close to 1085Mhz using AMD Overdrive software and GPU-Z to monitor temps

that is a total of 12% increase in CPU clocks and almost 29% increase in GPU clocks!!!

[Dragoon20005]

http://www.amd.com/u...ges/8670.aspx#2

here is the interesting part about the HD8670D in the A10-6800K or the OEM version

it actual factory clock is 1GHz and 1150MHz(DDR mode is 2300MHz) memory clock

guess because of the heat issues, it need to under clock the GPU

[Narcissistic Martyr]

Badconduct, on 26 June 2013 - 04:34 PM, said:

Increase the multiplier till it crashes.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot.

Increase the FSB til it crashes.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot.

Balance the FSB and the Multiplier till it crashes. Best to avoid voltage changes though, just watch the temps.

Increase the voltage till it's to hot .

Benchmark, compare benchmarks, run Prime95 and see if it's stable and actually increasing performance and not decreasing it.

OCing the video should be simple.

From what I've read, the CPU part goes slower with faster RAM. Since GPU performance is your bottleneck and is improved by faster RAM you probably want to OC your RAM first, then your GPU, and then do the CPU. Of course I don't own an APU rig so take my comment with a boulder of salt.

[Gremlich Johns]

Sorry, mate, I'm running an FX-4100 with a GTX560 SC that looks/feels better than that. Granted it is a cheap build, but meh.

[Bloodshed Romance]

Gremlich Johns, on 27 June 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

Sorry, mate, I'm running an FX-4100 with a GTX560 SC that looks/feels better than that. Granted it is a cheap build, but meh.

Graphics card will always beat non graphics card.. theres ABSOLUTELY no doubt about that....

[Dragoon20005]

it is free build, bloodshed only need to get his hands dirty to build it

of course this build may not be powerful, but everyone will agree this build will own a similar priced Intel i3 core using GMA HD2500 big time

i bet the Intel machine will get fatal error before it even load the main menu or the mechlab lolz

[Smokeyjedi]

Well That being said, Not a bad cheap lil 720P gamer, at least to get a taste for what pc titles are out there, without dropping a large sum of cash to get started.

[Dragoon20005]

Intel vs AMD

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1b4zm

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1an33

both almost the same price but 3D benchmarks, it is a no brainer AMD will wipe the floor of the Intel

[LordDeathStrike]

Bloodshed Romance, on 25 June 2013 - 01:07 AM, said:

aww, I was just about to start posting these up...
GOOD NEWS... 6800K CAN PLAY MWO!!!
pretty freakin well.. WITH NO GRAPHICS CARD!
720P on high gets 20-25FPS stable in the training grounds (haven't tested it in game as its 5AM here)
1080P on low it gets 20-25FPS in testing ground... (really smooth so its not super hard on the eyes)
1024X768 on low it gets 45FPS XD
720P on medium is about 25-30ish and on low its 35-40FPS

this is VERY respectable being there is no graphics card whatsoever (other than the APU itself) and its using the motherboard ram (only 512MB of it cause I don't know how to increase that..)

all true,
i went the other route when i ordered my new laptop
i7 3970x unlocked hex cpu with 15 mbs l3 cach, 6 cores 12 threads, no on board cheesy gpu
2x sli'd nvidia 780s with 4 gigs of ddr5 each (really nice gpus, no cheese here)
16 gigs of quad channel ddr3 @ 1600 mhz
120mhz refresh 17 inch 1080p laptop screen
2x 512 gig samsung 840 pro series ssd, 540 mb/s read 520 mb/s write.

true it wasnt hella cheap like said on die gpu, but its rigged up with enough copper to make what it cost in pennies to keep it cool and it should run mwo on ultra settings at 500 fps

its in shipping atm ill bench mwo with it and let you guys know how many reps it pumps out.

[Vellinious]

Would be interested to see where you ordered a laptop with an LGA2011 socket Sandy Bridge and dual video cards from. Any links? I'm also curious as to what the point of your post was on this thread? There's obviously a vast difference between the AMD APU and the Extreme Edition Sandy with dual GPU's.... Would love to see the link to this super laptop though.

[darqsyde]

@ Vellinious: http://web.eurocom.c...nfig1(1,224,0)x The Eurocom Panther 4.0, I'm sure there are others. And when he said not cheap...he meant ridiculously expensive.

@Dragoon20005: The OEM-only 8670 is NOT the same as an 8670D, The 8670 is basically a rebadged 5670/6670/7670.

To add something constructive-

I run an A8-3870k@3.5 with a 7870@1125 at 1680x1050, and get near 30-60fps(45+ mostly) max settings.

The A10 forms the basis for a low cost starter system, and with spending on a discrete GPU can perform fine in MWO, and indeed most games.

and...at 2560x1440 with a 7970, there is basically no difference between an A10 and a i7 Extreme.

Edited by darqsyde, 07 July 2013 - 08:57 AM.

[Bloodshed Romance]

my main is a FX 8350 with 7970 max settings 60FPS (45 drops every so often)