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[Jarvis Lancaster]

Locust... don't... have... waist... rotation
If the non-rotating waist would be too much of a change for programming or gameplay purposes, there were others from Star-League era that could fill the gap (and weigh-in at more than a mere 20 tons)

all things considered, It's very tempting. Unique variant with 2 standard variants for each phoenix 'mech; all with their own bays included; get them all together in October while everyone else has to wait for each chassis to be released and... get an early start on gaining this "loyalty"

Tempting, but I can still wait. No word on how long this deal is on, but the premium-time early-bird bonus lasts a whole month so I've got time to think it over.

[Ngamok]

By the outline of the mech, it's going to have these shoulders. Also, will have the Right Hand gun as well.

Edited by Ngamok, 27 June 2013 - 01:04 PM.

[McQuackers]

Jarvis Lancaster, on 27 June 2013 - 12:51 PM, said:

Locust... don't... have... waist... rotation
If the non-rotating waist would be too much of a change for programming or gameplay purposes, there were others from Star-League era that could fill the gap (and weigh-in at more than a mere 20 tons)

PGI could easily implement zero-torso rotation as is into the game. Simply make it so "Torso turn rate = 0" or "torso turn angle = 0".

A lot of mechs have different torso twist maximums; it shouldn't be hard to set them to zero.

[Koniving]

McQuackers, on 27 June 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

PGI could easily implement zero-torso rotation as is into the game. Simply make it so "Torso turn rate = 0" or "torso turn angle = 0".

A lot of mechs have different torso twist maximums; it shouldn't be hard to set them to zero.

But would you want to with the disadvantage of being a 20 ton light mech in this game? Would you truly want to have zero torso twist?

[stjobe]

stjobe, on 27 June 2013 - 07:32 AM, said:

Thunderbolt time approaching... The waiting is getting to me; it was always one of my absolute favourite 'mechs. I'm kind of nervous about how it'll look - I love most of Alex's designs, but this is the TDR... It had better not be ugly.

Don't fail me now Alex!

Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you Alex!

It looks like - a Thunderbolt!

THANK YOU!

Edited by stjobe, 27 June 2013 - 01:19 PM.

[Daniel Ward Kell]

"limited edition geometry" what the heck is that if you highlight the Phoenix Battlemech part thats listed there. Im not to keen on paying for math o.o

Edited by Daniel Ward Kell, 27 June 2013 - 01:20 PM.

[Damocles]

Koniving, on 27 June 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

But would you want to with the disadvantage of being a 20 ton light mech in this game? Would you truly want to have zero torso twist?

So what? Some people don't want to have the catapult with its ears or the awesome with its wide torso, its just another part of the design.

The "upside" of the Locust could be a massive accel/decel rate or turn rate %

[Vasces Diablo]

Koniving, on 27 June 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

But would you want to with the disadvantage of being a 20 ton light mech in this game? Would you truly want to have zero torso twist?

0 twist would be rough. Classic image has that CT laser on a turret, new concept art not so much. Regardless, I suppose is could still act as a torso twist for purposes of aiming, or even just stay converged with the arms (again, if we go with "it's a turret"). However, that doesn't really help for spreading damage.

Wow this is a lot of theory crafting based on some art work... And good lord it's fun.

[End Crescendo]

Bought Overlord. PGI, use this money to hire a bitchin programmer please.

[Yelland]

IqfishLP, on 27 June 2013 - 12:40 PM, said:

I mean wow. Just, wow. Alex, you turned meh into gold (more like platinum) once again!

Pretty amazing work! Thunder Bolt is fantastic!

[stjobe]

Daniel Ward Kell, on 27 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

"limited edition geometry" what the heck is that

It means the Phoenix 'mechs look a bit different from the standard 'mechs that you can buy for MC - like e.g. the founder Catapult; it has a pointed "nose" instead of the square one the regular variant has.

So the Phoenix TDR-5S will look a bit different from the C-Bill purchasable TDR-5S.

[Koniving]

Daniel Ward Kell, on 27 June 2013 - 01:20 PM, said:

"limited edition geometry" what the heck is that if you highlight the Phoenix Battlemech part thats listed there. Im not to keen on paying for math o.o

Geometry as in geometric shapes; polygons. I look different from you even though we're in the same mech.

Have a peek. Founder's C1 with unique geometry (nose cone).


Non-founder's C1.


Two Atlases side by side. One is the DD-C, the other is the D. Normally Atlases are identical in terms of heads, but the D here is a Founder's with unique geometry (head.)


The 4 key mechs with the 30% bonuses are going to be available for cbills, but those cbill ones will look reasonably different from the ones available here and won't have the bonuses.

Edited by Koniving, 27 June 2013 - 02:07 PM.

[Joseph Ward]

WOW the Thunderbolt looks awesome!! Looks like a Summoner!!!

[Warge]

DirePhoenix, on 27 June 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Wargaming.net is not Russian. They're from Belarus!

Yep, fogot that. But it doesn't matters: WOT - just stupid moneymaker(for devs)-P2W-game. Even with their game's success - devs can only ruin BT-game: they have no soul.

[Kriegs]

Jabilo, on 27 June 2013 - 02:54 PM, said:

Belarus is a different country to Russia.

I will withhold further comment on your intelligence in the spirit of international relations.

Destined, on 27 June 2013 - 03:08 PM, said:

Stay on topic and don't insult each other.

Yep looks legit!

[the huanglong]

Before I buy, will we be able to swap out our phoenix colours for our unit colours or will we be stuck with them like founders?

Sorry if it's been answered already, big thread.

[Kriegs]

the huanglong, on 27 June 2013 - 03:27 PM, said:

Before I buy, will we be able to swap out our phoenix colours for our unit colours or will we be stuck with them like founders?

Sorry if it's been answered already, big thread.

http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/

Q: Are the Project Phoenix Phoenix Variant and Standard Variant Mechs customizable in the areas of exterior cosmetic changes, loadout changes and/or cockpit customizations?
[color=#959595]A: The Camo Spec, Loadout and cockpit customizations can all be user-selected and changed for the Phoenix BattleMechs and their Standard Variants.[/color]

think that is what you were looking for?

Edited by Kriegs, 27 June 2013 - 03:34 PM.

[the huanglong]

Kriegs, on 27 June 2013 - 03:34 PM, said:

http://mwomercs.com/...sked-questions/

Q: Are the Project Phoenix Phoenix Variant and Standard Variant Mechs customizable in the areas of exterior cosmetic changes, loadout changes and/or cockpit customizations?
[color=#959595]A: The Camo Spec, Loadout and cockpit customizations can all be user-selected and changed for the Phoenix BattleMechs and their Standard Variants.[/color]

think that is what you were looking for?

Sure is in the right direction, thanks. But the Camospecs can be changed on my founders hunchback too, if by camospecs you mean the yellow stripe.

[Kriegs]

the huanglong, on 27 June 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

Sure is in the right direction, thanks. But the Camospecs can be changed on my founders hunchback too, if by camospecs you mean the yellow stripe.

Ah ok sorry, only info I seen so far on it

[Randodan]

Interesting... I take it this Phoenix Pack is like a second chance for those of us who missed to become founders by a smidgen.
I am debating getting it.