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[Hidran]

Hidran, on 27 June 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

Will the mechs be available to us cheepskates poor people at a later date? Or are they unique to project phoenix buyers?

crap didn't see the feedback thread option

[FrDrake]

Hidran, on 27 June 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

Will the mechs be available to us cheepskates poor people at a later date? Or are they unique to project phoenix buyers?

It's in the FAQ but yes, all the mechs are available for cbills at a later date.

Q: When will the Standard Variants be purchasable with C-bills or MC?
A: For those who do not Buy a Project Phoenix Package - The Standard Variants release schedule is currently set as:
Oct 15, 2013: Locust
Nov 20, 2013: Shadowhawk
Dec 18, 2013: Thunderbolt
Jan 22, 2014: Battlemaster

[Mechteric]

Rattlehead NZ, on 27 June 2013 - 05:09 AM, said:

Think yourself lucky, its the 28th here already ... WHERES MY BATTLEMASTER??? Damn time zones

Damn time travelling kiwis!

[Steinar Bergstol]

They will be available to everyone, just like every other mech. The four "special" Phoenix mechs are actually the base 3025 variants (LCT-1V, SHD-2H, TDR-5S and BLR-1G), not special "hero" variants with unique loadouts. The only difference will be the C-bill boost and the fact that they will have unique geometries, in other words they'll look slightly different from the standard version just like the Founders mechs look slightly different from the standard versions of those (Slightly different head for the Atlas, pointy nose for the Catapult and so forth).

[Milt]

this is a great deal for us casual types. im always strapped for c-bills. i just dont have the time to play enough to get everything i want. im looking at this as an opportunity to get ahead and stay ahead. 4 chassis to master with premium time to do it. hell yes. then about the time the last mech is out i imagine the clans will invade with a similar package. and i get to do it again. should be swimming in c-bills by the time its done. now does this game need a lot of work and some better communication from the devs.... HELL YA. but i still am enjoying it.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Goose, on 27 June 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:

[wonders if anyone else thinks the a T-Bolt's LRM goes on the other side]

It's only natural that this would be your first reaction to the Thunderbolt since the original image was this:



So, obviously the LRM should be on the left shoulder and the cockpit should be shifted to the right of center mass, right?

Well, actually no, because that original image, awesomely cool though it is (I absolutely love the look of the original T-bolt as taken from Dougram) does not actually agree with the Technical Readout specs. According to the 3025 TR the Thunderbolt has the following weapon loadout:

Right Arm: 1 x Large Laser
Right Torso: 1 x LRM-15
Left Torso: 3 x Medium Laser, 1 x SRM-2
Left Arm: 2 x Machine Gun

In other words, according to stats the big drum LRM launcher should have been shifted over to the right side of the mech (or the guy who put together the stats _could_ have thought twice and put the LRM in the LT, but that's life. Too late for that now by several decades).

In fact, The Reseen Thunderbolt designed for the original Project Phoenix Technical Readout a few years ago corrected this bit just like Alex has by shifting the LRM over to the other shoulder and the cockpit to the left side of the mech above the three Medium Lasers, as you can see here:



So Alex isn't the first artist who has had to deal with the... ahem... somewhat haphazard adherence to the source image by the original mech designers back in the 80's.

Personally I just hope it retains design of the Sunglow Type 2 Large Laser by having a big-arse gun bolted to the side of the right arm rather than making it a barely visible lens integrated into the arm itself. That bit is to me one of the main identifiers of the Thunderbolt.

Edited by Steinar Bergstol, 27 June 2013 - 06:44 AM.

[Joseph Calvert]

Hi everyone,

We'll see the T-bolt in about an hour and 15 minutes. It's 07:45 PST which is the hours for the office for the dev's.

[Vasces Diablo]

Steinar Bergstol, on 27 June 2013 - 06:40 AM, said:

It's only natural that this would be your first reaction to the Thunderbolt since the original image was this:



So, obviously the LRM should be on the left shoulder and the cockpit should be shifted to the right of center mass, right?

Well, actually no, because that original image, awesomely cool though it is (I absolutely love the look of the original T-bolt as taken from Dougram) does not actually agree with the Technical Readout specs. According to the 3025 TR the Thunderbolt has the following weapon loadout:

Right Arm: 1 x Large Laser
Right Torso: 1 x LRM-15
Left Torso: 3 x Medium Laser, 1 x SRM-2
Left Arm: 2 x Machine Gun

In other words, according to stats the big drum LRM launcher should have been shifted over to the right side of the mech (or the guy who put together the stats _could_ have thought twice and put the LRM in the LT, but that's life. Too late for that now by several decades).

In fact, The Reseen Thunderbolt designed for the original Project Phoenix Technical Readout a few years ago corrected this bit just like Alex has by shifting the LRM over to the other shoulder and the cockpit to the left side of the mech above the three Medium Lasers, as you can see here:



So Alex isn't the first artist who has had to deal with the... ahem... somewhat haphazard adherence to the source image by the original mech designers back in the 80's.

Personally I just hope it retains design of the Sunglow Type 2 Large Laser by having a big-arse gun bolted to the side of the right arm rather than making it a barely visible lens integrated into the arm itself. That bit is to me one of the main identifiers of the Thunderbolt.

My big question....

Will we get the offset/off center cockpit?

[Mechteric]

Vasces Diablo, on 27 June 2013 - 06:54 AM, said:

My big question....

Will we get the offset/off center cockpit?

should be doable, the Atlas is already an example of that, even if its only slight compared to that

[Lupus Aurelius]

Whereas there are some advantages to these packages, such as $40 worth of premium time and 12 mech bays worth about another 15, and the LP boosts, for the most part it's crap. Locust loadout is awful, and the Shadowhawk ( one of my all time TT favorites) is even worse, I'd probably never use either.

The truly terrible aspect, however is the lack of options. Of the 3 mechs I would be interested in (if the loadouts offered were not such crap), I would have to buy the Overlord package to get them, even though I do not want the Locust at all. What needs to be offered is what was done during the founders program, and allow the option of what mechs you want in a package, other than the get all Overlord.

Talon, Storm, and Guardian should allow to pick what mechs you want. So if you only want the Battlemaster, you get the Talon and select the Battlemaster, if you want the Shadowhawk and the Thunderbolt. you get the Storm package and select those 2.

When I bought the Elite Founders pack, I had the option to select the 1 mech I wanted. The same should exist with these kind of packages.

Edited by Lupus Aurelius, 27 June 2013 - 07:00 AM.

[Mason Grimm]

Steinar Bergstol, on 27 June 2013 - 06:40 AM, said:

(or the guy who put together the stats _could_ have thought twice and put the LRM in the LT, but that's life. Too late for that now by several decades).

Hahah in my universe this is a clerical error on the part of the guy who originally put the specs together. What he MEANT to show is that the LRM (or SRM depending on variant) goes on the LEFT side. I swear!!!

Why? Because having the LRM and the Energy Weapon on the right side makes the mech too heavy on the right side which puts extra strain on the gyro and myomer. (ok ok ok, I know, lame....)

My real reason? Because I may have based my TT TDR-5SS on the Right Side Cockpit idea LOL



What?!?!?! It's my universe! I can be delusional if I want to be!

[Ngamok]

Flashripper, on 27 June 2013 - 05:22 AM, said:

I wonder if new hero mechs (post-CW) will feature more than 10% loyalty point bonus. I really don't want the situation to be the same as with the Founder mechs which almost nobody uses anymore.

Oh, and please fix Founder bonus back in line with the Hero mechs. It won't change the "meta-game", but it willl be a show of good will for your early supporters. It is one of those little things which might show that you do care about your community.

I too would like the 10% Loyalty Bonus added to Founder's mechs. Would be cool but I won't cry over it if they don't. Of all my mediums (2 Hunchbacks, 3 Cicadas, 3 Trebuchets) I still love my HBK-4G(f).

[Steinar Bergstol]

ArchMage Sparrowhawk, on 26 June 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

I'm holding out for the Phoenix Hawk LAM. If they do that, I will shove my wallet into the screen so hard...

Heh. I think your screen is safe then. Even if we were to get a Phoenix Hawk, which is not a given even with the release of these unseen since the P-Hawk is a Macross mech and Harmony Gold are ********, I think we can forget about LAMs. If PGI were ever planning to implement Aerospace Fighters then _maybe_, but even then it'd be unlikely as by the 3050 timeline FASA had pretty much removed LAMs from the game by having the last LAM factory get dismantled by the Clans in the early part of the invasion.

[Steinar Bergstol]

Mason Grimm, on 27 June 2013 - 07:01 AM, said:

Hahah in my universe this is a clerical error on the part of the guy who originally put the specs together. What he MEANT to show is that the LRM (or SRM depending on variant) goes on the LEFT side. I swear!!!

Why? Because having the LRM and the Energy Weapon on the right side makes the mech too heavy on the right side which puts extra strain on the gyro and myomer. (ok ok ok, I know, lame....)

My real reason? Because I may have based my TT TDR-5SS on the Right Side Cockpit idea LOL



What?!?!?! It's my universe! I can be delusional if I want to be!

Heh. Clerical errors? In the Battletech universe? Hah! It was probably deliberate sabotage by Comstar to prevent the Successor States from recovering some hidden lostech in the T-bolt, is what it was!

And that's one of the nicest looking Project Phoenix T-bolt sculpts I've seen. Looks better than the TR image in my opinion, and I love the paintjob you gave it! Nice work on the cockpit windscreen as well, making it actually look like glass. That bit is always a pain to me when I paint something. Shading and highlighting to get a believable glass effect is an art which takes practice and work,

[stjobe]

Thunderbolt time approaching... The waiting is getting to me; it was always one of my absolute favourite 'mechs. I'm kind of nervous about how it'll look - I love most of Alex's designs, but this is the TDR... It had better not be ugly.

Don't fail me now Alex!

[Rattlehead NZ]

CapperDeluxe, on 27 June 2013 - 06:23 AM, said:

Damn time travelling kiwis!

And to be accurate, here in the future the updates are behind schedule lol

[Rizzelbizzeg]

Why is the shadow hawk package named storm with a lightning bolt logo and not the Thunder Bolt pack?

[Wildstreak]

Ari Dian, on 26 June 2013 - 06:28 AM, said:

But you did notice that you get 12 mechs for the 80$, didnt you? Combined with 12 mech bays (you dont get these when you buy hero mechs).

Duncan Jr Fischer, on 26 June 2013 - 06:31 AM, said:

Well, you seem to forget the variants. Each mech comes with 2 variants, actually you get 12 (twelve) mechs with the mechbays. The package also includes premium time and other trinket stuff. Now count it again and you'll see this package is a very generous offer for MWO.

Mmmmm, seems I got misunderstood.

Was not speaking against the value of the offers, rather clarifying them thus making them look better financially.

Oddly, they seem better than Founders I think?

[Gozer]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!

*Goes to find his credit Card*

[Rattlehead NZ]

If they added an MC bonus to the people who buy it in the first week im sure the people sitting on the fence would fall to the right side

And can't wait to see how the next 2 look.