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[Bishop Steiner]

looks pretty awesome

[RoboPatton]

I am RoboPatton and I approve of this tank.

[HanaYuriko]

OK I'm about half done with the turret. Before I detail the top, I'd like to know which design aspect that I should go forward on. Should I do a large central dome like the mini? Or a smaller, offset dome for the commander's cupola?

Here's the design based on the miniature:




And here's the smaller dome as I think it looks in the painting.






So...Which direction should I go in?

[9erRed]

Greetings all,

Normally the offset cupola is required when you have an operating weapon breach to contend with. (loading, recoil.)
If there's no breach then no requirement to move the commanders, weapon operators observation dome. Keep in mind that the actual crew may be seated deep within the hull and the function of the dome is for sensors and overall view only. Current tank designs have 2 or 3 persons working within the turret body and lower cage area. Some of the most advanced designs are moving to an automated weapons system and moving the crew to deep within the hull, additionally reducing the entire crew to only 2 or 3. (from 4) [commander, weapons systems operator, driver.]

The side armour plating would need to be just below the sensor view height, or have addition sensors on the plating for views lower and closer to the side hull. (for those ever present and squishy infantry, both there's and ours.)

Additional note; the drivers front view episcopes may need the sides angled back a bit, to allow for 45 Deg. views. The driver needs to be able to see the left and right sides of the vehicle for movement and obstacle clearance. (just saying) The front fender armour extensions may want to be tighter to the body? They drastically reduce the front climb angle. (unless they are moveable, raise able when required?)

Everything else looks great.
9erRed

Edited by 9erRed, 12 August 2013 - 05:14 PM.

[Bishop Steiner]

HanaYuriko, on 12 August 2013 - 04:16 PM, said:

OK I'm about half done with the turret. Before I detail the top, I'd like to know which design aspect that I should go forward on. Should I do a large central dome like the mini? Or a smaller, offset dome for the commander's cupola?

Here's the design based on the miniature:




And here's the smaller dome as I think it looks in the painting.






So...Which direction should I go in?

I would go with the offset. Having a breech inside the turret just "feels' right for a tank designed in the 3rd Succession War, less automated and high tech, more low tech and reliable. Heck, I believe the Abrams used today still has a manual breech, doesn't it?

[HanaYuriko]

Bishop Steiner, on 12 August 2013 - 08:00 PM, said:

I would go with the offset. Having a breech inside the turret just "feels' right for a tank designed in the 3rd Succession War, less automated and high tech, more low tech and reliable. Heck, I believe the Abrams used today still has a manual breech, doesn't it?

Yes, the M1A2 Abrams has a manual breech loading gun. It's the 120mm designed by Rhinemetal that the Germans mount on their Leopard II. The M1A3 design is proposed to have an autoloader installed if/when it is commissioned.

[RotS Targe]

If we are going with offset, should it be on the right side instead? The missiles need loading too, sure, the missiles are probably automatically loaded, but that still takes up space.

[Bishop Steiner]

RotS Targe, on 13 August 2013 - 08:18 PM, said:

If we are going with offset, should it be on the right side instead? The missiles need loading too, sure, the missiles are probably automatically loaded, but that still takes up space.

was thinking about that.

[HanaYuriko]

Wasn't able to reliably connect to the forum last night, and right now it's taking more than a minute for each page to load. Their servers are running like it's 1990!

Ah, memories... Anyhow I'd been picking a bit and added more detail to the turret section.



There's quite a bit of space between where the commander's hatch sits and the side of the turret to wedge in an automatic feed system to shuttle missiles into the launcher. There's a few more items I'm thinking of adding to the top. After that I'll move onto the main gun.

[Teliri]

HanaYuriko, I could help you with angled panels on the turret, if you like

Edited by Teliri, 14 August 2013 - 11:16 AM.

[Tank]

Brakkyn, on 14 July 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

It looks very professional and, more importantly, ten times better than the TRO original. I approve. Somebody render this in-game as an NPC!

As an NPC?! No! I wan't to control i and...

Spoiler

[HanaYuriko]

Teliri, on 14 August 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

HanaYuriko, I could help you with angled panels on the turret, if you like

That'd be great! Thanks!

I sent you a PM with a link to the base turret model and my email address. That way you can do whatever you like and send it back to me.

[Dirus Nigh]

Looking at this tank again and I really want teliri to make a MWO version of a galleon light tank and the chevalier tank from MWLL. Man I miss that tank.

[Bishop Steiner]

Bulldog. Love my Bulldogs. Standard tank of Damage Incorporated.

[Teliri]

well, I'm a little sick and my work is slowed down, but I'm recovering and will soon show you the following concept art, Dirus Nigh and Bishop Steiner, your suggestions gave me an idea: let us all think about which vehicles and aircraft we would like to fight in MWO PvE mode?

[Bishop Steiner]

Teliri, on 15 August 2013 - 01:23 PM, said:

well, I'm a little sick and my work is slowed down, but I'm recovering and will soon show you the following concept art, Dirus Nigh and Bishop Steiner, your suggestions gave me an idea: let us all think about which vehicles and aircraft we would like to fight in MWO PvE mode?

Sounds good. Would also LOVE to see your take on my PitBull light battle tank if at some point you wanna play around with a non canon design!

[Xathanael]

Teliri, on 14 July 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

Hi all)
I have some time to actively train in the field of 3d game modelling and gaming art, of course I could not ignore my favorite game and decided to paint something for MWO. I did not dare to spoil any canonical mech design by my clumsy scrawl so I decided to start with the tank) it is a redesign of 65 ton Patton tank, i knew that it far from ideal, but I'm still learning, i hope in the next time it should turn out much better)

Great Job Mate!!!!

[HanaYuriko]

Teliri did an awesome job modifying my turret base and modeled some armor plates. Unfortunately there were some errors when the object was converted between software formats (from trueSpace *.cob to 3d Studio Max *.3ds file, loaded into Blender and saved as Wavefront *.obj, then loaded back into trueSpace). It wasn't a difficult thing to fix but it took some time.

Then to better match that bit of detailing Teliri did, I completely rebuilt the spaced armor side panels (the 'ears') to give them a better shape and finished that. Then I started blocking out the main gun. The gun as mentioned earlier in the thread is based on the MWO Centurion's AC10 arm.

Not that many people are interested in the technical details. So here's the pics.







Closing in on the finish here!

[Bishop Steiner]

HanaYuriko, on 17 August 2013 - 11:53 AM, said:

Teliri did an awesome job modifying my turret base and modeled some armor plates. Unfortunately there were some errors when the object was converted between software formats (from trueSpace *.cob to 3d Studio Max *.3ds file, loaded into Blender and saved as Wavefront *.obj, then loaded back into trueSpace). It wasn't a difficult thing to fix but it took some time.

Then to better match that bit of detailing Teliri did, I completely rebuilt the spaced armor side panels (the 'ears') to give them a better shape and finished that. Then I started blocking out the main gun. The gun as mentioned earlier in the thread is based on the MWO Centurion's AC10 arm.

Not that many people are interested in the technical details. So here's the pics.







Closing in on the finish here!

rookie question here, but any way to compress the height of the drive chassis a little?

that is a 10% reduction. The Lower chassis stil seemed tall compared to the concept art.

[HanaYuriko]

Bishop Steiner, on 17 August 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

rookie question here, but any way to compress the height of the drive chassis a little?

Here's a profile view of the wireframe. I'm open to suggestions.