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#101 AceTimberwolf

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 03:51 PM

Aslong as Darkage never came to be its fine. It could have gone a better route. as for The Jihad I'm on the fence about it. it wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. Did shake things up a bit

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:01 PM

View PostMaffa, on 11 June 2012 - 09:36 AM, said:

well, no. the game is yet to be released, last game was years ago, last TT manual god knows when, novels the same.


If by 'TT manual' you mean rulebook, that would be 2 years ago with another one coming up (hopefully) this year. If you mean sourcebook, that would be...last month.

Edited by Arctic Fox, 11 June 2012 - 04:08 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostAceTimberwolf, on 11 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Aslong as Darkage never came to be its fine. It could have gone a better route. as for The Jihad I'm on the fence about it. it wasn't great but it wasn't horrible either. Did shake things up a bit

Jihad is like 17 years away (3067). Dark Age is almost 100 years from now at the 1 day = 1 day (3132)!

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:43 PM

View PostDavers, on 11 June 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Jihad is like 17 years away (3067). Dark Age is almost 100 years from now at the 1 day = 1 day (3132)!

But you know everything leads to that! EVERYTHING

Edited by AceTimberwolf, 11 June 2012 - 04:43 PM.


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Posted 11 June 2012 - 04:47 PM

View PostAceTimberwolf, on 11 June 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

But you know everything leads to that! EVERYTHING

LOL :) ;)

But really, what events are really mandatory to keep this as the 'real' BT universe?

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:23 PM

I just wish to point out, the CBT has had canon events that were influenced by real players. The Martial Olympiad series, the Commando/Agent global events where results are collected and incorporated into the storyline.

As MWO will be an official product, its not unreasonable to think it could happen.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:25 PM

As much as i hate that some characters i liked got assassinated or killed in combat, thats how the writers saw their end and the story..thats how the story progressed..its the BT universe, but i wholeheartedly despise the whole Jihad and age of darkness thing afterwards..if anything i'd have that erased from the history/canon in Battletech, its not even battletech anymore..not as i see it, also..the books are not obscure..if you've never read it does that mean its obscure?..if its out of print does that mean its obscure? or just highly valued by those who still have them and makes them more rare?..i have lots of BT books on shelves, in boxes and some by the side of the bed..still relevant and current to me..though i wont touch those mechwarrior books anymore.

As much as i hate that some characters i liked got assassinated or killed in combat, thats how the writers saw their end and the story..thats how the story progressed..its the BT universe, but i wholeheartedly despise the whole Jihad and age of darkness thing afterwards..if anything i'd have that erased from the history/canon in Battletech, its not even battletech anymore..not as i see it, also..the books are not obscure..if you've never read it does that mean its obscure?..if its out of print does that mean its obscure? or just highly valued by those who still have them and makes them more rare?..i have lots of BT books on shelves, in boxes and some by the side of the bed..still relevant and current to me..though i wont touch those mechwarrior books anymore.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:30 PM

I'm going to laugh my *** off if the clans invafe not the FRR. But the Capellions. :)

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:44 PM

I would just continue the story down the time lines to about 5050 that way the tech would fresh and the Dev's would have room to update the mechs and weapons the way they would like but that would require PVE if it were in MWO to tell the whole BT time-line from the first incarnation of the Battletech Universe.It would also breed allot of new and old fans being able to actually understand and play the BattleTech universe and the board games and novels as well as the PC and xbox games in a PVE/PVP/RP environment.And i know this is not a popular thing with the PVP crowd but it all links together to make Battletech much better for everyone that has never played on-line games.You could look at it like this what would STO on-line be without the movies?Or Lord Of The Rings on-line without the story?? By the way LOTR just went F2P on steam.

Plus like i have stated before the game would be much cooler with your own Character you created and all the awesome things in BT.Posted Image

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:59 PM

I say no. If they where going to rewrite history then why have us start in 3049. Or even have lostech make it where the sessions wars never happened. Cannon is Cannon there is a little wiggle room I say use it but no major rewrites

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:07 PM

How are the books "obscure"? They've been around for 20 years. Sure, the first print run ones are long gone, and even the second print are hard to find. But just look online. I recently bought 6 out of the 12 Original FASA novels.

It's not like this is a collection of 10 books that were only available in Norway during their 4th blizzard of the year in 1783.. It's a ton of books that strech back 25 years or so. The first ones seem to be published in 1986.

And to give you an idea of how many there are... http://www.sarna.net...ttleTech_novels



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Way of the Clans (Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy #1), by Robert Thurston. Published August 1991. Timeline: ca. 3030s
Trueborn to Clan Jade Falcon, Cadet Aidan aspires to become a Warrior and contribute his genetic material to his Clan's breeding program. But sibko training is harsh and unforgiving.

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Bloodname (Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy #2), by Robert Thurston. Published October 1991. Timeline: ca. 3040s
Aidan only managed to attain Warrior status through unconventional means and under the assumed identity of freeborn Warrior Jorge. Though this should preclude him from ever earning a bloodname, he gets a chance to set his record straight.

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Falcon Guard (Legend of the Jade Phoenix trilogy #3), by Robert Thurston. Published December 1991. Timeline: 3051-3052
Considered a pariah among his own Clan for his unconventional career, Star Colonel Aidan Pryde gets one last shot at redemption in the Battle of Tukayyid.

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Wolf Pack, by Robert N. Charrette. Published April 1992. Timeline: 3053-3055
Over the course of half a century, Wolf's Dragoons have evolved from a fabulously successful mercenary unit into something resembling a small nation—too big to maintain coherence among their various subfactions. Torn between their Clan and Inner Sphere origins, they find themselves in what amounts to a civil war when an ambitious faction attempts a coup against Jaime Wolf.

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Natural Selection, by Michael A. Stackpole. Published July 1992. Timeline: 3055
A marauding band of raiders equipped with Clan weaponry crosses borders into the Inner Sphere and threatens to undo the Truce of Tukayyid. To contain the threat, Archon-Prince Designate Victor Steiner-Davion and Khan Phelan Ward of Clan Wolf must cooperate despite their differences. The assassination of Melissa Steiner-Davion adds to the overall tension.

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Decision at Thunder Rift, reprint. Published September 1992.

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Mercenary's Star, reprint. Published November 1992.

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The Price of Glory, reprint. Published January 1993.

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Ideal War, by Christopher Kubasik. Published March 1993. Timeline: 3054-3055
After the Word of Blake sect split off from ComStar in the wake of the Battle of Tukayyid, the disparate group of religious zealots and shell-shocked soldiers were permitted to settle on the Free Worlds League planet of Gibson, where they end up embroiled in a guerilla war against local forces. Alarmed, Thomas Marik sends Sir Paul Masters of the Knights of the Inner Sphere to Gibson to evaluate the situation—and Masters finds many more factions active on Gibson than expected, deadlocked in a bloody, dirty and utterly chaotic guerilla war.

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Main Event, by James D. Long. Published May 1993. Timeline: 3054-3055
Hired for garrison duty on Borghese, the newly-minted Black Thorns mercenary company finds themselves fighting both Clan Jade Falcon invaders and a political movement that wants to surrender the planet.

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Blood of Heroes (Saga of the Gray Death Legion #4), by Andrew Keith. Published July 1993. Timeline: 3056
While the unit's leaders are off-planet, secessionists attack the Gray Death Legion on Glengarry, foreshadowing the FedCom Civil War.

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Assumption of Risk, by Michael A. Stackpole. Published September 1993. Timeline: 3055
Kai Allard-Liao has returned to the world that made his father famous, the gaming planet of Solaris VII. But being the Gaming World's Champion is the least of his worries as conflicts abound, from the arrival of a former lover to the assassination plot of a political leader.

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Far Country, by Peter Rice. Published October 1993. Timeline: 3056
A Draconis Elite Strike Team, accompanied by a small mercenary group, are stranded in an unknown star system by a misjump with no contact to the rest of humanity. They make landfall on a planet with intelligent flightless birds and find that another group of humans who stranded here five centuries earlier has taken to enslaving the birds and established nations that now wage war on each other.

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D.R.T., by James D. Long. Published May 1994. Timeline: 3056-3057
Having proven themselves a capable unit and equipped with captured Clan technology from Borghese, the Black Thorns accept a contract to Wolcott, the Draconis Combine's staging point behind the Clan lines, and from there embark on a deep strike mission against the Clan-held system of Courchevel.

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Close Quarters, by Victor Milán. Published September 1994. Timeline: 3056
Hired to provide protection for Chandrasekhar Kurita's business holdings on Hachiman, Camacho's Caballeros and Cassie Suthorn begin to feel out a plot to take down the high-ranking noble. When an alliance between his foes threatens Chandrasekhar's interests, Cassie and the Caballeros face a tough battle between their friends in the Ninth Ghost Regiment and Ninyu Kerai Indrahar, the spymaster manipulating the whole conflict.

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I Am Jade Falcon, by Robert Thurston. Published March 1995. Timeline: 3057
For aging and frustrated Star Commander Joanna, the Refusal War between the Clan Jade Falcon and Clan Wolf is her last chance to earn some glory.

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Highlander Gambit, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published June 1995. Timeline: 3057
Thirty years after the Northwind Highlanders switched sides from the Capellan Confederation to the Federated Suns in the Fourth Succession War, the Capellan Chancellor orders Loren Jaffray, an elite Death Commando and descendant of a Highlander, to sacrifice everything he is and everything he has to destroy the bonds between the Federated Commonwealth and the Highlanders, even if it means the Highlanders' destruction.

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Tactics of Duty (Saga of the Gray Death Legion #5), by William H. Keith, Jr.. Published August 1993. Timeline: 3057
The Gray Death Legion gets entangled in the developing FedCom Civil War once more on Caledonia.

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Lethal Heritage, reprint. Published September 1995.

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Blood Legacy, reprint. Published November 1995.

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Lost Destiny, reprint. Published December 1995.

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Bred for War, by Michael A. Stackpole. Published December 1995. Timeline: 3057
Victor Steiner-Davion's Federated Commonwealth badly needs the war material that is provided by the Free Worlds League in exchange for treating Joshua Marik, the Captain-General's dying son, for leukemia. When the boy dies, he is replaced with a double, but the ruse is discovered with disastrous consequences: Houses Marik and Liao use the deception as a pretext to invade the Federated Commonwealth, and Victor's treacherous sister uses the opportunity to tear it apart and secure the Lyran Alliance for herself. Just when Victor thinks things can get no worse, the Refusal War pits two entire Clans, the Jade Falcons and the Wolves, against each other in a fight to the death.

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Star Lord, by [color="#ba0000"]Donald G. Phillips[/color]. Published February 1996. Timeline: 3057
[color="#ba0000"]Stefan Amaris VII[/color], a distant heir of Stefan Amaris, is building up a secret army in the Periphery to sow unrest, sending his units on terror attacks bearing false colors. A disparate group of operatives under the aegis of the Knights of the Inner Sphere is tasked with putting and end to his maraudings.

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Malicious Intent, by Michael A. Stackpole. Published March 1996. Timeline: 3057-3058
Right after the Refusal War, Clan Jade Falcon attacks Coventry, which has the unintended side effect of uniting disparate elements of the Inner Sphere. Vlad of Clan Wolf attempts to rebuild his clan with political intrigue.

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Wolves on the Border, reprint. Published May 1996.

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Hearts of Chaos, by Victor Milán. Published June 1996. Timeline: 3056-3058
Camacho's Caballeros are sent to Towne, where they find the planet split between support for the local Davionists, and the desire for stability among the Draconis Combine. Behind the Combine troops, however, are the Kokuryu-kai, a mysterious organization that wants to overthrow the Coordinator.

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Operation Excalibur (Saga of the Gray Death Legion #6), by William H. Keith, Jr.. Published August 1996. Timeline: 3057
The Gray Death Legion takes service with their erstwhile enemy, the rebellious governor of Hesperus II. Under the guise of turncoats, they play a dangerous game of brinkmanship to bring Hesperus back into the Lyran Alliance that culminates in a battle within the 'Mech factory itself.

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Heir to the Dragon, reprint. Published September 1996.

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Black Dragon, by Victor Milán. Published November 1996. Timeline: 3058
Camacho's Caballeros are invited to Luthien to be honored for their work on Towne, only to begin to unravel a plot to kill the Coordinator.

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Impetus of War, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published December 1996. Timeline: 3058
The Draconis Combine hires out the famous Northwind Highlanders for a daring mission into Clan space. 'Cat' Stirling and Loren Jaffray take the Stirling Fusilers to the planet of [color="#ba0000"]Wayside V[/color] deep behind Clan lines for a strike against the Clan Smoke Jaguar's supply lines.

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Double-Blind, by Loren L. Coleman. Published April 1997. Timeline: 3058
The mercenary unit Avanti's Angels is hired by the Magistracy of Canopus to defend against the Marian Hegemony—a conflict behind which lurks the Word of Blake.

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Binding Force, by Loren L. Coleman. Published July 1997. Timeline: 3058
The Capellan Confederation, bent on recapturing their lost territories in what is now the Chaos March, sends Warrior House Hiritsu to conquer Kaifeng. While stranded behind enemy lines, Hiritsu Warrior [color="#ba0000"]Aris Sung[/color] learns of a traitor among his House's forces.

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Exodus Road (Twilight of the Clans #1), by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published August 1997. Timeline: 3052-3058
A disillusioned Warrior from Clan Smoke Jaguar provides the Inner Sphere with the information to strike at Huntress, the Smoke Jaguar capital world.

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Grave Covenant (Twilight of the Clans #2), by Michael A. Stackpole. Published September 1997. Timeline: 3058-3059
The states of the Inner Sphere have reformed the Star League, and a multinational coalition task force is created to utterly destroy Clan Smoke Jaguar as a show of force.

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The Hunters (Twilight of the Clans #3), by Thomas S. Gressman. Published December 1997. Timeline: 3058-3059
Under the command of Marshal of the Armies Morgan Hasek-Davion, Task Force Serpent sets out on the long voyage to Huntress, hoping to surprise and overwhelm the distant homeworld of Clan Smoke Jaguar and make the hunters become the hunted.

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Freebirth (Twilight of the Clans #4), by Robert Thurston. Published February 1998. Timeline: 3058-3059
Ordered to inspect a project of the science caste at a Clan Jade Falcon outpost on the Clan Smoke Jaguar world of Huntress, Star Captain Horse finds evidence of a secret cooperation between the Jade Falcon and Smoke Jaguar scientist castes.

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Warrior: En Garde, reprint ("10th anniversary edition"). Published April 1998.

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Warrior: Riposte, reprint ("10th anniversary edition"). Published June 1998.

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Sword and Fire (Twilight of the Clans #5), by Thomas S. Gressman. Published August 1998. Timeline: 3060
After the death of Marshal Morgan Hasek-Davion, Ariana Winston, the General in charge of the Eridani Light Horse, leads Task Force Serpent on. Even while they fight to neutralize Huntress, however, a new wave of Smoke Jaguar warriors is on its way back from the Inner Sphere, pushed out by Victor Steiner-Davion's Operation Bulldog.

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Shadows of War (Twilight of the Clans #6), by Thomas S. Gressman. Published September 1998. Timeline: 3060
On Huntress, Task Force Serpent has dug in and is fighting a desperate defense while enraged Clan Smoke Jaguar troops flood the field, until [color="#ba0000"]Operation Hunter[/color] arrives and eradicates the last of the Smoke Jaguars. But then Victor Steiner-Davion reveals the true goal of their fight: Strana Mechty, the homeworld of the Clans, itself.

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Warrior: Coupé, reprint ("10th anniversary edition"). Published November 1998.

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Prince of Havoc (Twilight of the Clans #7), by Michael A. Stackpole. Published December 1998. Timeline: 3060-3061
Victor Steiner-Davion leads his battered forces to Strana Mechty and begins the bidding process for a Trial about the Clan invasion itself, to end it once and for all. His forces prevail, but Khan Vlad Ward of Clan Wolf lets off a parting shot as the coalition forces leave his homeworld: the Inner Sphere may not be as stable as when they left.

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Falcon Rising (Twilight of the Clans #8), by Robert Thurston. Published March 1999. Timeline: 3059-3061
Following in the footsteps of her father Aidan, freeborn Warrior Diana of Clan Jade Falcon competes for a bloodname. This not only alienates many in her own Clan, but pushes the Jade Falcons on the brink of war with the conservative Clan Steel Viper. Meanwhile, the coalition forces arrive back in the Inner Sphere, years after they left, and find it changed as Archon Katherine Steiner-Davion has ursurped the Federated Commonwealth and left her brother, Victor Steiner-Davion, without a throne.

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Threads of Ambition (The Capellan Solution duology #1), by Loren L. Coleman. Published May 1999. Timeline: 3060-3061
Thirty years after his aunt Candace split off from the Capellan Confederation and formed the St. Ives Compact, Chancellor Sun-Tzu Liao uses his powerful position of First Lord of the resurrected Star League to set a plan in motion that will allow his Confederation to reclaim the breakaway commonality.

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The Killing Fields (The Capellan Solution duology #2), by Loren L. Coleman. Published August 1999. Timeline: 3062
The conclusion of the long and bloody struggle to re-absorb the St. Ives Compact back into the Capellan Confederation.

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Dagger Point, by Thomas S. Gressman. Published April 2000. Timeline: 3061-3062
The noble Eridani Light Horse are deployed to the St. Ives Compact as Star League peacekeepers in the small nation's ongoing conflict with the Capellan Confederation. But the mission is a sham; First Lord Sun-Tzu Liao is not really seeking peace, but rather wants his Confederation to recapture St. Ives.

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Illusions of Victory, by Loren L. Coleman. Published May 2000. Timeline: 3062
On the game world of Solaris VII, the FedCom Civil War spills beyond grudge matches and out into the streets.

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Measure of a Hero, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published July 2000. Timeline: 3062-3063
In the FedCom Civil War, decorated war hero Archer Christifori takes up arms against Lyran oppression on Thorin.

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Path of Glory, by Randall N. Bills. Published December 2000. Timeline: 3061-3062
At the beginning of the FedCom Civil War, Clan Nova Cat and the Draconis Combine forge an unlikely alliance.

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Flashpoint, by Loren L. Coleman. Published April 2001. Timeline: 3062
During the FedCom Civil War, the planetary militia on Kathil rises against the Lyran 8th FedCom RCT.

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Test of Vengeance, by Bryan Nystul. Published June 2001. Timeline: 3062-3064
Elemental Warrior [color="#ba0000"]Jake Kabrinski[/color] rises through the ranks of Clan Ghost Bear and fights in the Combine-Ghost Bear War.

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Patriots and Tyrants, by Loren L. Coleman. Published September 2001. Timeline: 3061-3063
The FedCom Civil War builds up as Katherine Steiner-Davion and her brother Victor Steiner-Davion maneuver against each other.

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Call of Duty, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published October 2001. Timeline: 3063
On Odessa, treachery pits Archer's Avengers against Snord's Irregulars during the FedCom Civil War.

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Storms of Fate, by Loren L. Coleman. Published April 2002. Timeline: 3064-3065
The FedCom Civil War gains momentum as Victor Steiner-Davion and Katherine Steiner-Davion continue their conflict.

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Operation Audacity, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published June 2002. Timeline: 3064-3065
During the FedCom Civil War, Clan Jade Falcon attacks and seizes planets in the Lyran Alliance. Prince Victor Steiner-Davion sends Major General Archer Christifori to check the Clan advance by taking Clan worlds behind those recently captured.

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Endgame, by Loren L. Coleman. Published September 2002. Timeline: 3065-3067
Prince Victor Steiner-Davion and his allies attempt to crush the Loyalists under Victor's sister, Katrina, and bring an end to the FedCom Civil War which culminates in the attack on Tharkad.

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The Legend of the Jade Phoenix, by Robert Thurston. Published October 2003.
Omnibus reprint of the Jade Phoenix trilogy (Way of the Clans, Bloodname, and Falcon Guard).


[edit] MechWarrior novels

Beginning in 1999, Roc Books also launched a second novel line in the BattleTech universe under the "MechWarrior" moniker (not to be confused with the MechWarrior RPG).

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Ghost of Winter, by Stephen Kenson. Published October 1999. Timeline: 3060
[color="#ba0000"]Kore[/color], a backwater mining world in the Periphery, is attacked by raiders. The tiny militia force is defeated, but one Warrior escapes and stumbles across the treasure the raiders are after.

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Roar of Honor, by Blaine Lee Pardoe. Published October 1999. Timeline: 3062
The [color="#ba0000"]Stalking Bears[/color], a newly formed Trinary, are sent to garrison the planet Toffen and defend it against an attack from Clan Wolf.

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By Blood Betrayed, by Blaine Lee Pardoe and Mel Odom. Published November 1999. Timeline: 3059
After his brother was killed while fighting for Able's Aces, farmboy [color="#ba0000"]Harley Rassor[/color] joins the mercenary unit to find out what really happened.

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Initiation to War, by Robert N. Charrette. Published November 2001. Timeline: 3061-3063
On Epsilon Eridani, a young militia warrior learns what it means to be a MechWarrior.

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The Dying Time (Saga of the Gray Death Legion #7), by Thomas S. Gressman. Published January 2002. Timeline: 3065
Grayson Death Carlyle, the famous founder of the Gray Death Legion, passes away. His wife takes up the reins as the mercenary unit embark on their greatest challenge since their inception and return to Hesperus II to protect the facility during the ravages of the FedCom Civil War.

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Imminent Crisis, by Randall N. Bills. Published March 2002. Timeline: 3065-3066
On New Syrtis, the 8th Syrtis Fusiliers become entangled in the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/FedCom_Civil_War"]FedCom Civil War[/url].


[[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_BattleTech_novels&action=edit&section=5"]edit[/url]] MechWarrior: Dark Age novels

Following the creation of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/MechWarrior:_Dark_Age"]MechWarrior: Dark Age[/url] line and the subsequent renaming of the original line into "[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Classic_BattleTech"]Classic BattleTech[/url]", Roc Books started another new novel line set in the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dark_Age_era"]Dark Age era[/url], beginning in 3132 (roughly 100 years after the classic BattleTech/MechWarrior setting) from 2002 onwards under the "MechWarrior: Dark Age" moniker.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ghost_War"]Ghost War[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Michael_A._Stackpole"]Michael A. Stackpole[/url]. Published December 2002. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3132"]3132[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3133"]3133[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Sam_Donnelly&action=edit&redlink=1"][color="#ba0000"]Sam Donnelly[/color][/url] investigates a terrorist organization on the planets [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Helen"]Helen[/url] and [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Basalt"]Basalt[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/A_Call_to_Arms"]A Call to Arms[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman"]Loren L. Coleman[/url]. Published February 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3133"]3133[/url]
Customs officer [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raul_Ortega"]Raul Ortega[/url] must deal with a [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url] attack on the planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Achernar"]Achernar[/url], one of the few worlds with a working [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/HPG"]HPG[/url] station.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Ruins_of_Power"]The Ruins of Power[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Robert_E._Vardeman"]Robert E. Vardeman[/url]. Published April 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3133"]3133[/url]
War comes to [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mirach"]Mirach[/url], and the pacifistic governor wants none of it. His son Austin must take up the sword instead.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/A_Silence_in_the_Heavens"]A Silence in the Heavens[/url] ([url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Proving_Grounds_(series)"]The Proving Grounds trilogy[/url] #1), by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Martin_Delrio"]Martin Delrio[/url]. Published June 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3132"]3132[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3133"]3133[/url]
The [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url], led by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anastasia_Kerensky"]Anastasia Kerensky[/url], assault [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Northwind"]Northwind[/url]. They are opposed by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tara_Campbell"]Tara Campbell[/url] and her Highlanders, as well as Paladin [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ezekiel_Crow"]Ezekiel Crow[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Truth_and_Shadows"]Truth and Shadows[/url] ([url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Proving_Grounds_(series)"]The Proving Grounds trilogy[/url] #2), by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Martin_Delrio"]Martin Delrio[/url]. Published August 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3133"]3133[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
While [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tara_Campbell"]Tara Campbell[/url] and [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ezekiel_Crow"]Ezekiel Crow[/url] grow closer, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anastasia_Kerensky"]Anastasia Kerensky[/url] makes another attempt on [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Northwind"]Northwind[/url]. Meanwhile, a dark secret threatens to unravel the alliance against the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Service_for_the_Dead"]Service for the Dead[/url] ([url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Proving_Grounds_(series)"]The Proving Grounds trilogy[/url] #3), by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Martin_Delrio"]Martin Delrio[/url]. Published November 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
Twice repulsed from [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Northwind"]Northwind[/url], [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anastasia_Kerensky"]Anastasia Kerensky[/url] leads her [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url] to [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Terra"]Terra[/url], the capital of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Republic_of_the_Sphere"]Republic of the Sphere[/url]. [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Tara_Campbell"]Tara Campbell[/url] must not only stop the Wolf leader, but also confront a traitor closer to home.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/By_Temptations_and_By_War"]By Temptations and By War[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman"]Loren L. Coleman[/url]. Published December 2003. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
The planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Liao"]Liao[/url] holds special significance to the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Capellan_Confederation"]Capellan Confederation[/url] and its ruling [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/House_Liao"]House Liao[/url]. Chancellor [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Daoshen_Liao"]Daoshen Liao[/url] sends an agent to regain the planet from the Republic and resurrect a long-dead Warrior House. The mystery of the Betrayer of Liao is resolved.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Fortress_of_Lies"]Fortress of Lies[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/J._Steven_York"]J. Steven York[/url]. Published February 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
Duke [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Aaron_Sandoval"]Aaron Sandoval[/url] uses his nephew Erik to make alliances and oppose the Capellan advance into the Republic.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Patriot%27s_Stand"]Patriot's Stand[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mike_Moscoe"]Mike Moscoe[/url]. Published April 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
When an unscrupulous businessman hires [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hansen%27s_Roughriders"]Hansen's Roughriders[/url] to help him conquer the planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Alkalurops"]Alkalurops[/url], the determined natives must put their fate in the hands of a rag-tag group of mercenaries.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Flight_of_the_Falcon"]Flight of the Falcon[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Victor_Mil%C3%A1n"]Victor Milán[/url]. Published June 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Jade_Falcon"]Clan Jade Falcon[/url] enters the fray as the Hazen sibkin, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Malvina_Hazen"]Malvina[/url] and Alex, lead an incursion into the Republic. Their target: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Skye"]Skye[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blood_of_the_Isle"]Blood of the Isle[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman"]Loren L. Coleman[/url]. Published August 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]
An unlikely alliance has arisen between the loyal Highlanders, the secessionist [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Stormhammers"]Stormhammers[/url] and the predatory [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url] to protect the planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Skye"]Skye[/url] against [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Jade_Falcon"]Clan Jade Falcon[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hunters_of_the_Deep"]Hunters of the Deep[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills"]Randall N. Bills[/url]. Published October 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Sea_Fox"]Clan Sea Fox[/url] roams the spacelanes like interstellar gypsies, buying and selling at every world and living almost entirely on their enormous ArcShips and CargoShips. In the midst of his regular duties, ovKhan [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Petr_Kalasa"]Petr Kalasa[/url] of Delta Aimag uncovers intrigue among his fellow merchants.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Scorpion_Jar"]The Scorpion Jar[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jason_M._Hardy"]Jason M. Hardy[/url]. Published December 2004. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]
The death of a legendary hero triggers further crisis in the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Republic_of_the_Sphere"]Republic of the Sphere[/url]. With all of his fellow Paladins gathered on [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Terra"]Terra[/url] to elect a new [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exarch"]Exarch[/url], [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jonah_Levin"]Jonah Levin[/url] investigates the mystery behind this tragic murder and uncovers a conspiracy that could bring the Republic to the brink of destruction.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Target_of_Opportunity"]Target of Opportunity[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blaine_Lee_Pardoe"]Blaine Lee Pardoe[/url]. Published February 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/ComStar"]ComStar[/url] once ruled the realm of interstellar communications throughout the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Inner_Sphere"]Inner Sphere[/url]. Then came the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jihad"]Jihad[/url], launched by a fanatical splinter group. The organization rebuilt, but the crash of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Hyperpulse_Generator"]Hyperpulse Generator[/url] net nearly three years ago may just be the fatal blow for ComStar. One young Adept thinks he may have the answer to restoring communications, but will he be allowed to test his theory or will he become the pawn of warring factions?

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Sword_of_Sedition"]Sword of Sedition[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman"]Loren L. Coleman[/url]. Published April 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]
Strife continues to build in the Republic government and the new [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exarch"]Exarch[/url] struggles to repair the damage. With dignitaries from across human space arriving to honor a fallen hero, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Terra"]Terra[/url] becomes a pressure cooker that may just explode and bring devastation to everyone.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Daughter_of_the_Dragon"]Daughter of the Dragon[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ilsa_J._Bick"]Ilsa J. Bick[/url]. Published June 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3134"]3134[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Katana_Tormark"]Katana Tormark[/url] was once a powerful figure in the Republic until the crash of the HPG system brought out her true allegiance. Now she conquers in the name of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Draconis_Combine"]Draconis Combine[/url]. But does Coordinator [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vincent_Kurita"]Vincent Kurita[/url] support or despise her?

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Heretic%27s_Faith"]Heretic's Faith[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills"]Randall N. Bills[/url]. Published August 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3137"]3137[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Nova_Cat"]Clan Nova Cat[/url] is known for following their mystical visions, even when the path appears strange to outsiders. Led by the visions of the Mystic Caste, the Nova Cats take up an offer of alliance extended to them by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Katana_Tormark"]Katana Tormark[/url], now Warlord of [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dieron"]Dieron[/url]. Will they take the opportunity to reconnect with their sundered brethren in the Republic? Or destroy them?

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Fortress_Republic_(novel)"]Fortress Republic[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Loren_L._Coleman"]Loren L. Coleman[/url]. Published October 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]
With more and more threats appearing on his doorstep, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exarch"]Exarch[/url] [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jonah_Levin"]Jonah Levin[/url] has a tough decision to make. Will his attempts to save the Republic doom it instead? Meanwhile, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Julian_Davion"]Julian Davion[/url], stripped of his position as Prince's Champion, leads a multinational force against the Senatorial rebellion and [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Caleb_Davion"]Caleb Davion[/url] assumes control of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Federated_Suns"]Federated Suns[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blood_Avatar"]Blood Avatar[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ilsa_J._Bick"]Ilsa J. Bick[/url]. Published December 2005. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
The first body that turns up in Farway, a secluded town on the planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Denebola"]Denebola[/url], is from out of town. When the Denebola Bureau of Investigation and the legate’s office from half the planet away decide to help identify the murder victim, Sheriff [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hank_Ketchum&action=edit&redlink=1"][color="#ba0000"]Hank Ketchum[/color][/url] knows he’s in over his head. Enter the infamous Detective [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Jack_Ramsey&action=edit&redlink=1"][color="#ba0000"]Jack Ramsey[/color][/url]. With the help of the talented and beautiful local medical examiner, Amanda Slade, Ramsey digs into the case and discovers evidence that puts Farway at the heart of a conspiracy. But who’s the greater threat—the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clans"]Clans[/url], the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Word_of_Blake"]Word of Blake[/url] or the legate’s intelligence operative?

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Trial_by_Chaos"]Trial by Chaos[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/J._Steven_York"]J. Steven York[/url]. Published June 2006. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
The [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raging_Bears"]Raging Bears[/url] have begun their occupation of the planet [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vega"]Vega[/url] with the hope of restoring order on a planet beset by violence and civil ruin. But their bold move to stabilize [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Prefecture_I"]Prefecture I[/url] for the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Republic_of_the_Sphere"]Republic of the Sphere[/url] may prove to be the chance their enemies have waited for...
While the military takeover of [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vega"]Vega[/url] was no great challenge, setting up a new planetary government and restoring the infrastructure of civilization has proven to be far more difficult for the peacekeeping forces of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Rasalhague_Dominion"]Rasalhague Dominion[/url]. There remains an underground resistance that refuses to cease fire, and the Bears suspect that the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Draconis_Combine"]Draconis Combine[/url] is secretly supporting the rebellion. As the Combine threatens them from without, the Bears also find themselves plagued by betrayal and deception from within. Unless they can expose the rival elements in their Clan, they may end up as fodder for destruction...

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Principles_of_Desolation"]Principles of Desolation[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jason_M._Hardy"]Jason M. Hardy[/url] and [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills"]Randall N. Bills[/url]. Published August 2006. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
For more than a year, "divine leader" [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Daoshen_Liao"]Daoshen Liao[/url] has relentlessly pushed his [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Capellan_Confederation"]Capellan Confederation[/url] forces in their invasion of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Republic_of_the_Sphere"]Republic[/url]. Now the time has come for the next stage of his conquest—a conquest that will begin not with an enemy, but with his own family...
Raised among royalty in the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Magistracy_of_Canopus"]Magistracy of Canopus[/url], where the superiority of women is a cultural axiom, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Danai_Liao-Centrella"]Danai Liao-Centrella[/url] possesses all the confidence necessary for her to ascend through the confederacy ranks, despite having to contend with the constant machinations of her maniacal brother, Daoshen.
But when her latest mission ends in defeat and personal disgrace, Danai will face the greatest challenge of her life. Chancellor Daoshen rewards her failure by giving her a battalion of her own and a brand-new battlefield. And Danai is about to learn that in service to the state, even family comes second to safeguarding the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Capellan_Confederation"]Capellan Confederation[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wolf_Hunters_(novel)"]Wolf Hunters[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kevin_Killiany"]Kevin Killiany[/url]. Published November 2006. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anastasia_Kerensky"]Anastasia Kerensky[/url] has declared the Steel Wolf Clan to be mercenaries, re-christening them [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wolf_Hunters"]Wolf Hunters[/url]. The combination of autonomy and wealth will make them more than a match for any MechWarrior battalion suicidal enough to challenge them.
But the real challenge comes from within the Clan. Star Colonel Varnoff believes Kerensky has betrayed them all—and with a loyal faction of Steel Wolves at his side vows to destroy all the Wolf Hunters.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Surrender_Your_Dreams"]Surrender Your Dreams[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blaine_Lee_Pardoe"]Blaine Lee Pardoe[/url]. Published December 2006. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3138"]3138[/url]
They are the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Fidelis&action=edit&redlink=1"][color="#ba0000"]Fidelis[/color][/url], a brotherhood of warriors whose devotion to honor and courage on the battlefield is unmatched. Their existence known only to a former [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Exarch"]exarch[/url], they are a fighting force to be reckoned with—a force of three knights must consider as they undertake missions that could save the Republic... or cripple it.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dragon_Rising"]Dragon Rising[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Ilsa_J._Bick"]Ilsa J. Bick[/url]. Published February 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3137"]3137[/url]
When several planets are left to fend for themselves, becoming pawns in a deadly game of territorial sovereignty, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Katana_Tormark"]Katana Tormark[/url], a warlord of [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dieron"]Dieron[/url], must join forces with the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Draconis_Combine"]Combine[/url]'s [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Vincent_Kurita"]coordinator[/url] to gain control of these worlds and reestablish the historic [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Dieron_Military_District"]Dieron Military district[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Masters_of_War"]Masters of War[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Michael_A._Stackpole"]Michael A. Stackpole[/url]. Published April 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3137"]3137[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Wolf"]Clan Wolf[/url] decides to pick up and move halfway across the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Inner_Sphere"]Inner Sphere[/url]. How will this decision affect [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Alaric_Wolf"]Alaric Wolf[/url] (an adopted warrior whose parentage is surprising), [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anastasia_Kerensky"]Anastasia Kerensky[/url] (one-time leader of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Steel_Wolves"]Steel Wolves[/url], now commander of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Mercenary"]mercenary[/url] [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Wolf_Hunters"]Wolf Hunters[/url]), and [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Verena&action=edit&redlink=1"][color="#ba0000"]Verena[/color][/url] (a [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Wolf-in-Exile"]Clan Wolf-in-Exile[/url] warrior who was tossed out of the Steel Wolves by Anastasia)?

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/A_Rending_of_Falcons"]A Rending of Falcons[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Victor_Mil%C3%A1n"]Victor Milán[/url]. Published June 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]
Within [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Clan_Jade_Falcon"]Clan Jade Falcon[/url], [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Malvina_Hazen"]Malvina Hazen[/url] begins a civil war against Khan [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jana_Pryde"]Jana Pryde[/url].

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Pandora%27s_Gambit"]Pandora's Gambit[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Randall_N._Bills"]Randall N. Bills[/url]. Published August 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3135"]3135[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3137"]3137[/url]
Following the sundering of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Free_Worlds_League"]Free Worlds League[/url] in [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3069"]3069[/url], three contenders for the throne of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Captain-General"]Captain-General[/url] vie for supremacy.

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Fire_at_Will"]Fire at Will[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Blaine_Lee_Pardoe"]Blaine Lee Pardoe[/url]. Published October 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3136"]3136[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3138"]3138[/url]
For too long, the people of the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lyran_Commonwealth"]Lyran Commonwealth[/url] have only reacted to attacks by their enemies. Now, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Archon"]Archon[/url] [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Melissa_Steiner_II"]Melissa Steiner[/url] launches an intricate [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Operation_Hammerfall"]gambit[/url] that will secure the safety of her subjects—and secure her own power against those who wish to take it...

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/The_Last_Charge"]The Last Charge[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jason_M._Hardy"]Jason M. Hardy[/url]. Published December 2007. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3138"]3138[/url]
[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Anson_Marik"]Anson Marik[/url] is at his wit's end. The [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Lyran_Commonwealth"]Lyrans[/url] are pressing on his borders. His [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Cole_Daggert"]chief tactician[/url] has resigned. And his abilities as a leader are failing him. Now his enemies are on the move, taking the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Marik-Stewart_Commonwealth"]Commonwealth[/url] planet by planet, forcing Marik to pull his forces back in a bravely-fought running retreat. And if Marik cannot gather his strength to stop the invasion, his people will be doomed...

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[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/To_Ride_the_Chimera"]To Ride the Chimera[/url], by [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Kevin_Killiany"]Kevin Killiany[/url]. Published February 2008. Timeline: [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3138"]3138[/url]-[url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/3139"]3139[/url]
A [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/MechWarrior_(pilot)"]MechWarrior[/url] without peer, [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Thaddeus_Marik_III"]Thaddeus Marik[/url] has become the figurehead for a new community of worlds attempting to resurrect the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Free_Worlds_League"]Free Worlds League[/url]. After defeating a Lyran invasion on the planet of [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Savannah"]Savannah[/url] and negotiating a successful alliance with the [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Protectorate_Coalition"]Protectorate Coalition[/url], Marik must now ally himself with [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Jessica_Marik"]Jessica Halas-Hughes Marik[/url] if the new league is to have a chance.
Having Marik and his forces at her side gives Jessica much-needed credibility and greater influence on [url="http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Oriente"]Oriente[/url]. But old hatreds die hard, erupting in a war against enemies who will stop at nothing to destroy the founding of a new league...

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 06:14 PM

The clans are coming, we can safely assume that. Otherwise they could just start us after the discovery of the Memory Core with all the same tech.


View PostJonas, on 11 June 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

I say no. If they where going to rewrite history then why have us start in 3049. Or even have lostech make it where the sessions wars never happened. Cannon is Cannon there is a little wiggle room I say use it but no major rewrites


What are the other canon events? What would be a rewrite? What do you consider to be the 'wiggle room'? I am still searching for the answer to this.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 12:58 AM

View PostCCC Dober, on 11 June 2012 - 05:42 AM, said:


Why would you place your 'trust' into something that has changed on a constant basis, such as sourcebooks?
The novels came out, remained unchanged and were more coherent at any rate. If anything, you got it backwards and I think you should give them more credit. They are at least on par with the sourcebooks and not less important than you make them out to be. When all is said and done, neither books nor tabletop, nor sourcebooks will attract the new blood. It's the combination of all that makes the universe what it is. You can try to ignore the preceding MW/MC games if you want, but times have changed and you do so at your own risk. They are easily as, if not even more, important as all the other ingredients that make the BT universe.


Can you please list some examples here on how anything 'changed' in the sourcebooks? I got a pretty good stack thats not missing much, and I cannot think of any major retcon or change in the histories or stories of the BT universe. Its been pretty damn solid and consistent for a very long time. Considering the success of previous BT computer games from MW1 to Mechcommander 2 and MWLL, its pretty obvious people love the universe and love playing games set in it. If gameplay is fun and balanced, with good graphics and sound, most gamers that don't have a clue about the BT universe will probably stick with it (and who knows maybe do research into where it all came from and get hooked on that.) Hell with a large number of steampunk gothic type games out there, most players are even comfortable with a mix of advanced and primitive tech coexisting, so even that shouldn't be to much of a problem.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 02:42 AM

I see no reason to rewrite history when there is still so much history left to be (re-)played. All the Mechwarrior games so far have only covered the last 50 years or so. But there is much more in the past...just think of games set during the Age of War, the Reunificatuion Wars, 1st to 3rd Succession Wars...there is a lot a developer could do.


View PostTincan Nightmare, on 12 June 2012 - 12:58 AM, said:

Can you please list some examples here on how anything 'changed' in the sourcebooks? I got a pretty good stack thats not missing much, and I cannot think of any major retcon or change in the histories or stories of the BT universe.


Lincoln Osis, Clan Secondline Mechs

Edited by Thorn Hallis, 12 June 2012 - 02:43 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:01 AM

View PostThorn Hallis, on 12 June 2012 - 02:42 AM, said:

Lincoln Osis, Clan Secondline Mechs


Just curious... what changes are you referring to?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 03:55 AM

View PostSychodemus, on 12 June 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

Just curious... what changes are you referring to?


Lincoln Osis was first described as a mechwarrior (ComStar and Invading Clans sourcebooks), he was later retconned to be an Elemental.

At the introduction of the Clans, all second line units and the provisional garrison clustrers were outfitted with Star League era mechs without any Clantech (as seen in the Clan Wolf sourcebook). This was retconned once "true" Clan second line mechs were added.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 04:36 AM

View PostMichael Fury, on 11 June 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

How are the books "obscure"? They've been around for 20 years. Sure, the first print run ones are long gone, and even the second print are hard to find. But just look online. I recently bought 6 out of the 12 Original FASA novels.

It's not like this is a collection of 10 books that were only available in Norway during their 4th blizzard of the year in 1783.. It's a ton of books that strech back 25 years or so. The first ones seem to be published in 1986.


You could easily call them 'obscure'. None of them are particularly famous or popular outside of btech circles at all. Heck I've been into btech since the mid 90's as a kid and haven't heard of most of the titles you listed. Just because they've been around since I was 3 does not make them any less obscure to a lot of people. Heck I know plenty of people who love battletech and have no clue the novels even exist.

Theres probably a metric ton of people who've never played the table top game, and have only played the computer games some only having started with mech 4, who don't even know there are books about a game they know nothing about. And more and more people are going to join in on the universe at MWO as their first btech/mechwarrior game pushing the books into further obscurity.

People who've read all the books and know them all are going to become more and more of a minority than they already are, and the books are going to continue to fade into obscurity. This is the way of things. And considering all the plot armor, mary sues, favortism I have heard complaned about from different people I've gamed with over the past 20 years I don't see how thats not a good thing...

Edited by blindprophet, 12 June 2012 - 04:40 AM.


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Posted 12 June 2012 - 05:45 AM

View PostThorn Hallis, on 12 June 2012 - 03:55 AM, said:


Lincoln Osis was first described as a mechwarrior (ComStar and Invading Clans sourcebooks), he was later retconned to be an Elemental.

At the introduction of the Clans, all second line units and the provisional garrison clustrers were outfitted with Star League era mechs without any Clantech (as seen in the Clan Wolf sourcebook). This was retconned once "true" Clan second line mechs were added.


I thought these were what you referring to, but I wasn't sure.

I tend to view the Osis debacle more as errata at this point.

The second line issue was a bit of a boondoggle. But the Clans have always been afflicted by internal identity crisis on the part of the developers.

Most retcons are acceptable as they can be easily explained away as misinformation (intentional or unintentional) and indeed many such revisions/clarifications have been blamed on ComStar or WoB interference. These kind of things don't really affect anything long term, though they can be confusing and annoying. Sometimes they are trivial and sometimes they are used to fix simple errors (or writer incompetence.)

But, I do instinctively distrust anything that basically says, "That never happened" or, "Here's what really happened*" in regards to important events. Thankfully, BT has been pretty good about it unlike other franchises (I am looking at you, Highlander, and almost every superhero comic book ever written.)

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:06 AM

The established PF is awesome and should be respected.

But.

This is an amazing opportunity for emergent gameplay and storytelling and you just can't ignore that! The BattleTech universe deserves more than what it's got in recent times.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 06:29 AM

View PostRoland, on 11 June 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:

Not sure I understand this point.

You wouldn't need to have people "rewrite" the story... because the players would be doing that.

Players can only have an effect on the outcome of a battle. They have no influence on what political, economical, etc. reactions this might trigger. Plus, you will still need a general idea of what is going to happen if a campaign is successful or a complete failure. This includes introducing new characters to the universe as old time favourites might get killed in the course of a battle or they simply loose their power or never get to be in charge in the first place. Making up stuff on the fly will most certainly lead to giant holes in the story. That's why I think PGI would need a team of story writers.





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