95 replies to this topic

[MadCat02]

Viktor,Stalker and Highlander can cripple Atlas before he can even get in range .

Infact any of those mechs are just as strong in 1 vs 1 situation .

Both Viktor and Highlander can spam jump jets every 2 seconds which is extremely effective
at dodging canons and avoiding focused damage .

Stalker with 5 SRM/6 , 3mid+2LR can easily outgun atlas in close combat

On bigger maps like Alpine and Tourmaline atlas has no ability to deal with poke . ( you can still avoid PPC penalty by shooting 2 at a time so that nerf did absolutly nothing )

On small maps you get harassed too easily because elevation never works in your favor .


Atlas has no way to deal with poke

Atlas is horrible at fighting small mechs

Atlas can't win 1 vs 1 vs 85 ton mech

Atlas can't utilize his DPS because of elevation



IS 15 ARMOR MAKES UP FOR HIS SIZE AND LUCK OF UTILITY?

I know there is consistency going on with tonnag/Armor but atlas has a huge hit box so he needs about 10% more armor all around

.............................................

Here is a perfect example:

Take DAISHI . Mech that will probably come out later with the clan patch

ITs a 100 ton Assault mech with a moving turret like stalker. Won't that make Atlas inferior in every way?

Edited by MadCat02, 21 July 2013 - 08:02 AM.

[superteds]

poke?

[soarra]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

Viktor,Stalker and Highlander can cripple Atlas before he can even get in range .

Infact any of those mechs are just as strong in 1 vs 1 situation .

Both Viktor and Highlander can spam jump jets every 2 seconds which is extremely effective
at dodging canons and avoiding focused damage .

Stalker with 5 SRM/6 , 3mid+2LR can easily outgun atlas in close combat

On bigger maps like Alpine and Tourmaline atlas has no ability to deal with poke . ( you can still avoid PPC penalty by shooting 2 at a time so that nerf did absolutly nothing )

On small maps you get harassed too easily because elevation never works in your favor .


Atlas has no way to deal with poke

Atlas is horrible at fighting small mechs

Atlas can't win 1 vs 1 vs 85 ton mech

Atlas can't utilize his DPS because of elevation



IS 15 ARMOR MAKES UP FOR HIS SIZE AND LUCK OF UTILITY?

I unlocked master on Atlas and it was a waste of time .

your not playing it right then
As an atlas your not invincible, you still must use cover and rely on your team. If you charge in head first you are a big target and will die fast.
Against light i use my large lasers and srms without a problem, when HSR is working.
most of those 85 ton mechs run xl's, blow off their shoulder and watch then drop, if they dont have xl's you took out most of their weapons.

Edited by soarra, 21 July 2013 - 07:40 AM.

[MadCat02]

soarra, on 21 July 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

your not playing it right then
As an atlas your not invincible, you still must use cover and rely on your team. If you charge in head first you are a big target and will die fast.
Against light i use my large lasers and srms without a problem, when HSR is working.
most of those 85 ton mechs run xl's, blow off their shoulder and watch then drop, if they dont have xl's you took out most of their weapons.

I unlocked master on atlas . I am as good on atlas as you can get

Atlas can't aim large laser that well . You either on a elavated gorund or you are too slow to turn .

No most 85th don't run XLS . I have ferro armor on PPC poker and 300 engine on brawler stalker

[KAT Ayanami]

You are kind of right on most of the items.

Atlases are really slow, so the issues with the speed reduction on the hills really kills the guy.
Not to mention that the arms are very low and tend to shoot the ground more than often.

The only complaint I have about them is the lack of hard points. Installing an XL engine on anything other than an RS is a waste of time and money.
If you install it on any other variable, you end up with free tonnage and no more space for weapons.

[Unbound Inferno]

Right Shoulder. Take off the enemy's right shoulder.

XL=Dead, if not there goes its guns.

[xCico]

Unbound Inferno, on 21 July 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

Right Shoulder. Take off the enemy's right shoulder.

XL=Dead, if not there goes its guns.

Yes, yes aaand yes!

[MadCat02]

superteds, on 21 July 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:

poke?

Poke is when you walking down the road and someone puts 2 rouds of dual ppc in your center torse from 900 meters .

Atlas beeing a huge box is an easy target and gets focused easily

Unbound Inferno, on 21 July 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

Right Shoulder. Take off the enemy's right shoulder.

XL=Dead, if not there goes its guns.

Since it makes no sense to carry over 3-4 PPC (because of their insane recharge rate ) theres no need for XL engine on assault mechs .

Infact avoiding XL engine results in higher DPS because you can fit more heatsinks

[Qrbaza]

100 ton mech is a 100 ton mech. If driven by a good pilot Atlas is badass mech with bad attitude. So if you get killed fast you are doing something wrong bro...

[Nryrony]

And why exactly should an Atlas last so much longer then the other assault mechs, or even the other mechs? How do you explain to a medium mech that you hit one button and he's dead and you should be able to take 10x the dmg and what would be the point of been a non Assault mech?

[MadCat02]

Qrbaza, on 21 July 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

100 ton mech is a 100 ton mech. If driven by a good pilot Atlas is badass mech with bad attitude. So if you get killed fast you are doing something wrong bro...

Skill cap logicly is higher on a mech that can shoot behind the walls . While atlas is forced at fighting face to face .

[Unbound Inferno]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:51 AM, said:

Since it makes no sense to carry over 3-4 PPC (because of their insane recharge rate ) theres no need for XL engine on assault mechs .

Infact avoiding XL engine results in higher DPS because you can fit more heatsinks

I still see too many do it though. Took out a Stalker today by ripping off its shoulder.

[soarra]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

Viktor,Stalker and Highlander can cripple Atlas before he can even get in range .

Infact any of those mechs are just as strong in 1 vs 1 situation .

Both Viktor and Highlander can spam jump jets every 2 seconds which is extremely effective
at dodging canons and avoiding focused damage .

Stalker with 5 SRM/6 , 3mid+2LR can easily outgun atlas in close combat

On bigger maps like Alpine and Tourmaline atlas has no ability to deal with poke . ( you can still avoid PPC penalty by shooting 2 at a time so that nerf did absolutly nothing )

On small maps you get harassed too easily because elevation never works in your favor .


Atlas has no way to deal with poke

Atlas is horrible at fighting small mechs

Atlas can't win 1 vs 1 vs 85 ton mech

Atlas can't utilize his DPS because of elevation



IS 15 ARMOR MAKES UP FOR HIS SIZE AND LUCK OF UTILITY?

I know there is consistency going on with tonnag/Armor but atlas has a huge hit box so he needs about 10% more armor all around

what is your build?

[MadCat02]

Nryrony, on 21 July 2013 - 07:54 AM, said:

And why exactly should an Atlas last so much longer then the other assault mechs, or even the other mechs? How do you explain to a medium mech that you hit one button and he's dead and you should be able to take 10x the dmg and what would be the point of been a non Assault mech?

How do you explain how Stalker has weapons at his head which gives that player more oprtions ?

How do you explain jump jets that let you dodge 50-70% of the canon shoots while also allowing you to shoot over the walls .

Ton for Ton other assault mechs are better than atlas .

If daishy ever comes out ( a 1oo mech with moving turret like stalker ) It will make atlas worthless

Edited by MadCat02, 21 July 2013 - 07:59 AM.

[soarra]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

How do you explain how Stalker has weapons at his head which gives that player more oprtions ?

How do you explain jump jets that let you dodge 50-70% of the canon shoots while alos allowing you to shoot over the walls .

lol really? if they are dodging that many of your canon shots while jump jetting the problem is the pilot

[Nutlink]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 07:57 AM, said:

How do you explain jump jets that let you dodge 50-70% of the canon shoots while also allowing you to shoot over the walls .

As fun as it was in MW4 to play wack-a-mole with the Gladiators and Black Knights, here I'd highly recommend waiting until they land. You have more than enough time to line up a shot and get it off before they jump again, plus they're almost at a standstill when they land, giving you a prime opportunity to shoot the CT. The only thing I ever fire when someone is jumping is my lasers, and that's usually to test out the leg armor.

[SmoothCriminal]

Obvious troll, trolling in the wrong forum. Move this to mechs and loadout, or better yet, jettisoned communication.

[MadCat02]

soarra, on 21 July 2013 - 07:58 AM, said:

lol really? if they are dodging that many of your canon shots while jump jetting the problem is the pilot

are you telling me that you can keep shooting canons in center torso while someone is flying right in front of you?

you can only shoot so high

Edited by MadCat02, 21 July 2013 - 08:08 AM.

[soarra]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

are you telling me that you can keep shooting canons in center torso while someone is flying right in front of you?

you arms won't go that high

hope you have other weapons like lasers, and don't shoot till they land or back up


i have killed many mechs including jenners while they were jump jetting with ac/20s

Edited by soarra, 21 July 2013 - 08:08 AM.

[Unbound Inferno]

MadCat02, on 21 July 2013 - 08:05 AM, said:

are you telling me that you can keep shooting canons in center torso while someone is flying right in front of you?

you arms won't go that high

Tap Escape key.
Options.
Search for a box on the lower-left that says "Arm Lock"
Click that.