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#1 AntharPrime

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:09 PM

Simply just not cool PGI, the grind is bad enough as it was. Now you went and lowered Cbills earned per match. This will not help the game, are you guys trying to kill off this title before it hits launch?

#2 Serapth

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:55 PM

Longer matches + lower rewards...

Brilliant.


Hey PGI, maybe just maybe, when adding something like 12v12, you dont want to implement such fundamental changes like earnings amount. Earnings basically just got at least halved.

As OP said, not cool.

#3 Druidika

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:56 PM

I feel sad for all the new players that don't have a lot of mechs already. The reduced earnings really hurt.

#4 Homeless Bill

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:00 PM

I definitely understand why they would make assists worth less - more people means more assists on average. Assists are not zero-sum.

Kills, however, are zero-sum. Sure, there are four more chassis floating around to shoot at, but there are also four more people to compete for kills with. There's still one person for each person to kill.

Overall, I see no point in the money adjustment considering matches will typically be longer. This change sucks.

#5 Drunk Canuck

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:03 PM

Yup, the grind just got turned into being pummeled and smashed into microscopic fragments.

#6 Troggy

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

My 2 cents...

(total # c-bills)/(# players) should be the same on average as in 8-mans. It doesn't appear that this is the case...That seems like a problem to me.

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#7 Edwyndham

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:21 PM

Decrease earnings for base damage and kills/assists, but no earnings buffs for pulling off intel/recon/striker maneuvers.

You can't even cover the costs of consumables unless you take Assaults.

#8 Gulinborsti

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:33 PM

Yup, reduced earnings are the only disappointment in this latest patch.
I hope it gets adjusted soon, this way we actually have to start grinding instead of enjoying the benefits from playing the game.

#9 Paladin IIC

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:12 PM

Shouldn't we be earning more C Bills since more people equals more challenge? This makes no sense.

#10 Troutmonkey

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:41 PM

Not only do I earn less CBILLs but I'm getting less XP too (even with double XP!). I was halfway through Eliting my Cicada's when the patch hit. Not only do I get vaporized by 2xPPC Guass that much quicker, but I get less CBILLs and less XP and have to wait for longer before I can run the same mech again. Give us more CBILLs and XP!

#11 Royalewithcheese

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:49 PM

If the problem is assists, why not just fix assists?

#12 Troutmonkey

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:11 PM

View PostRoyalewithcheese, on 06 August 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

If the problem is assists, why not just fix assists?

CBILLs earned in larger games shouldn't even be a problem, as the bigger games take longer to play anyway, so it would average out ...

#13 AntharPrime

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:15 PM

View PostRoyalewithcheese, on 06 August 2013 - 05:49 PM, said:

If the problem is assists, why not just fix assists?


Cbills for everything except for the base amount for win or loss has been reduced. Combined with the longer matches Cbill earnings have been reduced 2-fold.

#14 Royalewithcheese

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:24 PM

View PostTroutmonkey, on 06 August 2013 - 06:11 PM, said:

CBILLs earned in larger games shouldn't even be a problem, as the bigger games take longer to play anyway, so it would average out ...

View PostAntharPrime, on 06 August 2013 - 06:15 PM, said:


Cbills for everything except for the base amount for win or loss has been reduced. Combined with the longer matches Cbill earnings have been reduced 2-fold.


I'm not quite sure why they don't understand that match length matters for earnings. (This has consistently been an issue, too: see also Assault vs. Conquest.)

#15 Serapth

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:48 PM

Match score 100 = 140K cbills. Brutal.

#16 Bobby Bolivia

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:51 PM

Makes me wish I didn't buy 6 seismics because I felt like I had too much surplus cb. damn.

#17 Dirty Starfish

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 07:56 PM

I believe this is an underhanded attempt to make us spend more money. All I know is that if this is permanent I will never spend a penny just out of spite.

#18 Ellen Ripley

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:09 PM

Bad idea that will make the new user experience even worse and the game more of a grind for everyone. Someone seems to really know how to entice people to play and stay with this game. One of those things that didn't get thought through obviously.

Edited by Ellen Ripley, 06 August 2013 - 08:10 PM.


#19 GingerBang

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:17 PM

View PostAntharPrime, on 06 August 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

Simply just not cool PGI, the grind is bad enough as it was. Now you went and lowered Cbills earned per match. This will not help the game, are you guys trying to kill off this title before it hits launch?



Yes, yes they are.

View PostDixie Cup, on 06 August 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

Makes me wish I didn't buy 6 seismics because I felt like I had too much surplus cb. damn.



I am so glad i've got my +45 mechs now. I knew spending my founders cash on nothing but mechlabs was the right idea. This is bullcrap.

#20 RG870

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 08:46 PM

First time I win a match and finish with 70k cbills and ~400XP (without 50% bonus). I was planning to buy 2 more Stalkers and 2 more Atlasses to max the chassis. These plans are cancelled if the cbill and XP rewards remain that lousy now.
MWO used to be fun. It had some grind, which already was at the threshold of being acceptable for me. Now it is no longer. As long as the income for matches is that low, I will reduce my time in MWO and switch to other games with less grind.
During the last weeks I spent like 70$ for MWO. I was planning to go for 2 Hero Mechs in case they should appear in a sale. As long as I feel this game to be nothing but a grind, I will stop spending money on the shop.

Edited by RG870, 06 August 2013 - 08:47 PM.






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