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[Karl Split]

I don't know whats worse forcing thirdpersonfail on me or breaking the immersion by having the camera zoom out through the damn mech body. That aint a drone camera hoving above the mech. It makes me want to poke my eyes out after having the awsome startup sequence.

What a dissapointment.

Also, yeah hotthedd I didnt buy phoenix either as I was unhappy with the direction, vote with your feet

Edited by Karl Split, 20 August 2013 - 12:27 PM.

[Ransack]

justjay, on 20 August 2013 - 12:21 PM, said:

Instead of bitching about 3pv vs 1pv, here's some actual feedback:

camera POV on the cplt (specifically, k2, don't have the others anymore) is horrible, compared to the jenner, at least. zoom makes this even worse. (BTW, feel like zoom should be restricted / unavailable in 3pv, but that's another balance thing)

on a completely unrelated note, once someone is targeted for a few seconds, it'd be nice if their mech type was 'added' to the scoreboard, making that last 'what mech was he in?' towards the end of the game less annoying.

We GAVE them actual feedback during the play tests. Welcome to a last month

self righteous, know it all newbies are annoying

[Koniving]

JohnnyWayne, on 20 August 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

This. Oh, and this.

PGI's hired a community manager. Here he is hard at work. Poor guy's really working hard. Community complains of lack of communication. Clearly someone forgot to provide him with something to type on.

Edited by Koniving, 20 August 2013 - 12:36 PM.

[Hotthedd]

Chronojam, on 20 August 2013 - 12:24 PM, said:

You have to remember, a lot of the #saveMWO crowd has been playing since the early closed beta days, and we've seen this tragic tale unfolding with greater clarity. Make no mistake, this game was pretty ******* excellent and constantly improving for a very long time in all aspects. Everything from the website, to the patching process, to the mechbay, to the art, to the gameplay, to the sounds, seemed to be improving steadily. We were happy.

Then things changed and it's been going downhill and we're very upset, because we had such a nice taste of great MechWarrior gameplay by an apparently savvy and dedicated development team. We don't want to see the game fail, we want to see the game get back on track how it once was.

Too late for many of us. The trust is 100% gone.

[VagGR]

damoonrulz, on 20 August 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

1PV is unfair. If you're using the seismic module, you'd able to to see that Catapult on the other side of the building on your radar, something you aren't able to do in 3PV. Plus, in 1PV I'd be able to use seismic to detect a light mech walking up behind me, something I'm also unable to do in 3PV.

you do know that the seismic does not come default with every mech right? you have to pay 6mil cbill for each one..you also do know it has limited range right?..and i guess you also know if the cat is not moving it will not show up on seismic..right? so what the hell are you trying to say?

[Horusv2]

Hey PGI

I dont care for 3PV but you should hire somebody to handle your public relations problems.

[Vasces Diablo]

Trev Firestorm, on 20 August 2013 - 12:16 PM, said:

You seem a bit dense, that was obviously never the point, its what he can see from 1pv vs what he can see from 3pv...

An you seem like a bit of a judgementel jerk, but whatever. I assure you, I get exactly what he's going for here, but using staged screen shots is maybe not the best way to do it. Yes, 3rd person can in some very specific instances give an advantage, my biggest issues are 1) the instant nature of going between views and 2) if my enemy already knows I'm behind cover, than I give up nothing by popping a drone and "revealing" my position.

I can pretty much count on one hand the number of times I went around a corner and found a mech I didn't already know was there, and that's before the seismic sensor was brought it. Complain about 3rd person and I'll agree with a lot of what you say, but "OMG he can see around a corner, if everyone is in just the right spot in a few select places" is not one of them, because for all it's faults, this implementation of 3pv actually does pretty good with that issue.

[Ngamok]

Zolaz, on 20 August 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

It just depends on what your definition of "Never" is ...

We can have Bill Clinton define it for us. He did a good job of defining cigar holders for us.

Edited by Ngamok, 20 August 2013 - 12:29 PM.

[JohnnyWayne]

Koniving, on 20 August 2013 - 12:27 PM, said:

PGI's hired a community manager. Here he is hard at work. Poor guy's really working hard. Community complains of lack of communication. Clearly someone forgot to provide him with something to type on.

Hey, thats my feedback. I'm clearly saying: Go **** yourselfs!^^ First they made MWLL end developement and now they **** this up. Well done guys!

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 20 August 2013 - 12:31 PM.

[Slopey]

Mordynak, on 20 August 2013 - 12:15 PM, said:

We are beta testers.

You've got about 4 weeks left of that sycophantic nonsense, then where are you going to be?

Do you seriously think PGI are suddenly going to get with the program within 2-3 patches? It's beta only in name, they're taking my money, and still implementing features which have the backing of nobody.

This is exactly how it'll be for release. CW is a myth until 2014 - I'm out.

[Caswallon]

Gofer, on 20 August 2013 - 12:03 PM, said:

IMPORTANT NOTE: Your Weapon Groups are RESET to GROUP 1 with this patch. DO NOT engage in Combat Until you correct your Weapon Groups.
I'm p*ssed because 27 pages of b*tching didnt mention that RESET of Weapons groups is required prior to combat - y'all need to re-evaluate your priorities. Are you (and what you are saying) Part of the solution or part of the problem?

Mine did not reset.
My wifes did...

?

[JohnnyWayne]

Caswallon, on 20 August 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Mine did not reset.
My wifes did...

?

Your wife has weapons Groups? Ô_o

Well mine were also reseted ... Partly... Luckily I tested 3PV in the traininggrounds first..^^

Edited by JohnnyWayne, 20 August 2013 - 12:35 PM.

[VagGR]

Caswallon, on 20 August 2013 - 12:31 PM, said:

Mine did not reset.
My wifes did...

?

your wife plays MWO?! ... good wife man..keep her!

[Nekki Basara]

Prosperity Park, on 20 August 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

I think some people missed the developer statements regarding how they will implement the queue splitting (regarding first- and third-person views). The queue splitting is sensitive to the context of Community Warfare, such that the entire Mercenary campaign will be first-person only, and only in the Faction/House combat scenarios will there be a queue split to offer Faction/House players a choice of fighting with or without third-person players present. Because Community Warfare hasn't launched yet, they aren't rolling the full queue-splitting functionalities yet.

When CW launches, they will work a perspective queue split into the Faction/House players' options, and anyone launching/dropping as part of, or alongside, a Mercenary Corporation will not have access to third-person view at all.

Got a link to those statements handy?

[Slash]

Horusv2, on 20 August 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

I dont care for 3PV but you should hire somebody to handle your public relations problems.

They dont have a PR problem... That is only a symptom.

The cause is a continuing series of illogical fixes to imaginary problems.

The community has been trying to help PGI make a stellar and fantastic game since the beginning. They were SSSOOO close, that's why we are pretty mad. PGI should have adopted the League of Legends, Starcraft & DOTA models by discussing issues with top end competitive players and making small adjustments based on feedback. Had this been done, there would be TONS of cheerleaders for this game.

[Karl Split]

The module is not stuck on the mech buy it once and move it sheeesh

Edited by Karl Split, 20 August 2013 - 12:38 PM.

[Mighty Spike]

CrazyHorse, on 20 August 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

there is diferent queue for 1 and 3 persons.

there is a hardcore mode (1 PV only)

and YOU can choose???

[Koniving]

JohnnyWayne, on 20 August 2013 - 12:30 PM, said:

Well done guys!

Meant this one. http://z0r.de/2171

[Slumu]

Vasces Diablo, on 20 August 2013 - 12:29 PM, said:

I can pretty much count on one hand the number of times I went around a corner and found a mech I didn't already know was there, and that's before the seismic sensor was brought it. Complain about 3rd person and I'll agree with a lot of what you say, but "OMG he can see around a corner, if everyone is in just the right spot in a few select places" is not one of them, because for all it's faults, this implementation of 3pv actually does pretty good with that issue.

3PV is nice to have a look at your new paint job, but for actual playing its pretty crappy. I really don't see how it gives me any advantage over 1PV apart from that very few instances. I really don't get all the bitching about it. In my eyes, everyone playing in 3PV is acctually putting a handicap on himself.
And before you all jump on me about the whole "PGI promised us to never have to play against 3PV players", that indeed is a completely different issue, one I'm not very happy with either.

Edited by Slumu, 20 August 2013 - 12:38 PM.

[Phy99]

Slopey, on 20 August 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

3PV in 1PV queue?

3PV on by default?


I want a refund on my Pheonix Overlord right now, and I'll never play this game ever again.

This is ********.

Put your request in now. I just did and it seems like it is going to go through. It was just shifted to the billing department for review.