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[Bernard Matthaios]

LOL... Anyone else experiencing your mech "pooping" dead drones? Return to first person and the magical "poop" is gone?!

[Deathlike]

Homeless Bill, on 20 August 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Paul's Response:

TL;DR: The Spider picture is a bug, so all your concerns are invalid.

Yes, we take Paul as the "King of Balance".

Yet, LPL is still junk compared to a PPC, and NARCs/Flamers/Awesomes are still useless. That's not to forget about the medium buffs NOT covering acceleration/deceleration buffs of any sort.

But hey.. we have ghost heat!

Edited by Deathlike, 20 August 2013 - 05:26 PM.

[Hexenhammer]

Quote

After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.


Please continue posting your feedback in the appropriate 3PV Feedback Thread. "

It's real easy to read this as. "We don't have enough players to support 1PV an 3PV at the same time

[Viral Matrix]

I like 3pv. I dont think its unbalancing. Its only really better for Lights, or very fast mechs, with brawling(less than 270m weapons) and for just walking to get to the fight. Doesnt seem to give that much of a greater FOV. Unless you are in a mech with a cramped cockpit that didnt allow much peripherial vision, like an Atlas. But only close range, spray type weapons, like LBX or MGs are ok to fire in 3pv. Lasers are ok but they cost heat so u dont wanna waste the shot.

If it needs changing at all, it could be just a smidge lower and closer to your mech to really keep the FOV of 3pv and 1pv equal. Yes, 3pv has a slightly larger FOV, but very small difference. Lower and closer would be enough. Then you wouldnt have to artificially limit the switch, like through slower transiitons or cooldowns. If they whine is too much, just move it a little bit and its fine. Its fine now imo, though.

[Dosbag]

I was fine with 3rd person as long as we had dedicated games for 1st person only, this reversed my views on you guys and now I am pretty ticked.

Either you guys are just disregarding us in favor of what you think is a great idea or are in dire straits and need to appeal to another group for income. The Planetside 2 devs did the same thing and now they are pretty boned as it is. They even added in the features people told them to at launch after denying it nonstop.

Edited by Dosbag, 20 August 2013 - 05:28 PM.

[Kunae]

https://twitter.com/...991974792622080

Russ Bullock said:

But people are conveniently ignoring that I can see that mechs red beacon drone clearly at 1200 meters

That isn't the problem, Russ. People don't like 3pv, and don't think it should be in the game.

That's not why people are pissed.

We were all assured, explicitly, that 3pv and 1pv would be separate queues. You have chosen to force 1pv and 3pv together, even after saying that it would never happen.

That means you were lying, as a company.

You folks have really done it to yourselves, this time.

Edited by Kunae, 20 August 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[Vila deVere]

This change was a COMPLETE waste of resources. Not only did the community tell you they didn't want this abomination, but you created a mode that CLEARLY offers an advantage, especially since you can switch into and out of it. The screen shot CLEARLY show it allows you to cheat.

DISGRACEFUL.

Edited by Vila deVere, 20 August 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[Soku Yamashita]

I want to play MechWarrior, not MechAssault.

[DrSlamastika]

I am pretty new here, so I dont know what devs promised, but:

Its not a big deal for me, anyway in 3PV you cannot see your map, cant move your arm without torso and you have lots of blind angles. Zoom is not so good like in 1PV.

You can set up 1PV like deafult view in options. And I am not affraid of guys whose using this 3PV, its not a such a big advantage, from my point of view.

When I was spectating noone was using it in a game.

From other point of view, I am glad that I can finally see my mech from another angle, but it would be nice if this 3PV would be stuck with some kind of drone which would be shoot able down. If you shot down that drone . . .no 3PV anymore

So I dont see this thing so dark see you on battlefield . .

Edited by DrSlamastika, 20 August 2013 - 05:31 PM.

[Corvus Antaka]

Jungle Rhino, on 20 August 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

That is irrelevant. The reason everybody is flipping out is because it is another bare face lie from pgi. Their focus is on revenue generation at the expense of gameplay.

This is sorta true, PGI changed their stance.

I'm surprised you are all so surprised given than politicians and many others lie to us on a daily basis with much graver consequences

[MonkeyCheese]

Tabrias07, on 20 August 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

Where's the 1PV only queue?

So many lies....

[Corvus Antaka]

Lord Banshee, on 20 August 2013 - 04:32 PM, said:

Rounding corners just became easy-mode. What's one of the quickest ways to lose armor? Round a corner and find 5 enemy mechs waiting for you, immobile to spoil Seismic. Now? Stop 15 meters away from the corner, conveniently behind your building/rock/hill/plane/etc. Merely hit F4 (or whatever it's mapped to) and crane around and view what could have been a hellacious firefight and half your armor vaporized... but NOT anymorrrrrrrrre!! Hahahahaha-ha-haah... ha heh... aw, frell it.

+1

[Meatoburrito]

[WarHippy]

Homeless Bill, on 20 August 2013 - 05:22 PM, said:

Paul's Response:

TL;DR: The Spider picture is a bug, so all your concerns are invalid.

Yes, I am sure. I mean one pic out of many posted is a "bug" so all is good in the world. I mean come on they can't really be that dense they must be doing it for the LOLs. Got to love the disingenuous lies from devs that troll.

Edited by WarHippy, 20 August 2013 - 05:38 PM.

[Gallowglas]

I've defended a lot of decisions. I'll even defend that I don't think 3PV is that bad. However, I definitely think it was a very poor PR decision to tell people that you're going to separate queues as a direct response to community outcry and then, without any warning or discussion, you drop a non-optional implementation on us. I think you guys have just set yourself up for a PR nightmare. I know a lot of this community overreacts to everything, but you're definitely not helping yourselves.

If you read through my posts, I always try to stay objective, but in being objective, I've also got to call 'em like I see 'em.

[Killashnikov]

Best of all is this being pedalled on the Facebook site:
"MechWarrior Online Our developers haven't decided on a final way to offer separate queues. For the time being we feel players will enjoy the third-person option and we don't think this option creates a negative experience.

You will always have the option to play in the first-person view and further queueing options are under development. Please direct further feedback to our forums, where our developers will be able to review your feedback directly."

So more lies now - or more likely the truth to us but lies to the public who have not bought in yet....

http://mwomercs.com/...e-those-queues/

[Warprince85]

_{I just dont get this anger against third person. I play this Game as I always have to design and worship giant mechs. Third person allows me to see my creation in all of its splendor. Dont like current version of the beta... start your own company and make a better version MW game. I do agree though there should be seperate queues.}

[PaleRyder]

Third person view was introduced by an obviously clueless group of individuals. Coming from the original MW games it was used to exploit the game. How is it a good Idea when I smash my mech into a cliff wall and can see enemy mechs on top of the hill and begin to jump snipe them. I can go on for an hour or so about exploits but wont.
This was a BIG mistake, the game has an arcade feel and will be EXPLOITED beyond what the inexperienced group of individuals who instituted it can even imagine. At least it could be bidded off in the original game.
Time would have been better spent on map selecting or a bidding system.

Edited by PaleRyder, 20 August 2013 - 05:43 PM.

[Lugh]

Killashnikov, on 20 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

I have supported this game for a long time - I even forked o9ut for Phoenix inspite of recent doubts - What a waste. I could have put that money into Star Citizen or god forbid real life. I wont say that I will stop playing - I love Mech combat - but I will say I will not put any more money into this morally bankrupt business. You promised me an image of a truly great game. You gave us a buggy money sink. I sincerely wish you the best but I am sick of this.
And if it is not clear enough - it is the broken promises I am most upset about.

Until you ask for a refund they won't care. ASK FOR A REFUND

[Karr285]

OMG!

1st person > 3rd for fighting BUT!!!!

3rd peson > 1st for Scouting/avoiding damage/seeing around corner's over objects

That is the part of 3rd person we NEVER WANTED the part that gives you FREE information.