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[Dawnstealer]

NERRRRRRRD RAAAAAAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!

I'm going to play it out. It's a game, people. Yes we've put money into it (or I have), but it's also...in BETA. You knew what you signed up for.

From what I've seen, the 3pv doesn't look that over-powered. I'm a little miffed that it's the default, but I'll just drop into the testing grounds, reset it to 1pv, and call it good for the rest of the time I play this game.

I WILL be making fun of anyone I see with a UAV flying right behind them, though. AFTER I shoot them repeatedly.

[sokitumi]

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In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans ... in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.

Dafuq is he even talking about. What wish list item could possibly be augmented by this? Really. Naming one without more of the same "soon™" bs we've come to expect would go miles to salvage your credibility.

[Alex Warden]

Stewbawl, on 20 August 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

now that 3rd person view is out there i'm loving it. but i have one problem.

when i'm in 3rd person view my crosshairs lurch around and it's very annoying. it looks like it lurches onto mechs almost like an auto aim thing. i can also tell that it is lurching to mechs that are hidden by terrain. the cursor/crosshair is very erratic.

it´s an aimbot... and it´s ridiculously easy to shoot with it, once you realize what it is... this THING has to go, or half of our unit will...

[kbilly]

3pv seems best for scouting but I dont like fighting in it.

[Timto]

Venares, on 20 August 2013 - 02:03 PM, said:

Pretty much sums up what EVERYONE is pissed about.

How you can say "3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV" with a stright face is beyond belivable.
How the hell is the above not a MAJOR ******** advantage.
It's game breaking beyond all belief and should NEVER, NEVER have made it into the game PERIOD!

Consider me one of many who will no longer be paying your wages PGI.

Its getting worse

[Smegmw]

I now fully regret giving the PROJECT PHOENIX revenue that I did. if I could get a refund of all monies I spent on the game and no longer play it I would. Remove 3PV now.

[Elbola Ierocis]

1) Avast! bug still exists. Work arounds are great and all, but they are not you fixing your broken game, they are people accepting you have a broken game and are willing to endangerous their computer safety to play the game for a bit.

2) Weapon tweaks are good. SSRM jump may be a bit much. Should be on par with SRM. UAC5 is probably now over powered but we'll see when everyone has one on their mech this week.

3) Breaking your word yet again without coming forward and telling the community what you were going to do concerning the 3pv is a major major trust breaker. Especially concerning the fact that it's the founders and folk that are paying a lot into this game that are the most betrayed. Do you hate money?

4) As stated many times I will wait out the storm of horrible patches and workarounds in the hopes that Sept 17th will see most things set right. Although you'll be very rushed under such a tight deadline, I'm not optimistic.

5) Facebook, Twitter, and Forums are three seperate methods of communicating with your audience. SEPERATE. You could always link the twitter feed to auto post onto facebook. So people know when things are happening. You have a Project Phoenix extra paints, cockpit item, and camo thing on now that people that only follow you on facebook do not know about. Online games that are only online games need to push extra hard to reach more people in different areas. It's like you're purposely trying to shoot yourself in the foot. For a company that claims to support its silence majority, you do a rather poor job at communicating to them what you are doing. Business plan to failure. I don't want to see you guys go belly up so shape up.

Side note: No matter how obnoxious the community is you should never ever sink to being "snarky" or sarcastic. The customer is always right(even if they are idiots beyond belief). It smacks of unprofessionalism and drives investors away in droves. Today's patch notes early comment if read by an outsider would seriously question the professionalism of your staff.

Edited by Elbola Ierocis, 20 August 2013 - 02:12 PM.

[Diskordia86]

PGI, fix yourself. You are more ate up than a soup sandwich.

[Capt Sternn]

Honestly its good for looking around a bit but your accuracy sucks in 3rd person. Its not game breaking or OP. In fact its kinda useless. Like I said its ok for looking around but its no good in a fight.

[Devils Advocate]

ThePieMaker, on 20 August 2013 - 02:00 PM, said:

Lied straight to our faces.
In my opinion we should not let this slide.

Liars.

[Humble Sea Bass]

This merging of the queues has made me absolutely ecstatic that the official release date is right around the corner and we can finally get on Metacritic and extoll the virtues of these brilliant game mechanics that just keep on coming!

[Lord of All]

F U that is all.

[Squid von Torgar]

I am going to post this, knowing full well that either it wont reach you or you will just discount it out of hand.

The issue here really isn't about 3PV, Any advantage it provides or not. The issue is that as the Devs of this game you stated (as fact) that there would never be a situation where the two view modes would be combined.

Now I accept that the advantages of 3PV are limited, but please consider that any competitive player only needs a slight advantage to maximise his/her results.

But more fundamental to this is the promise that for those that prefered to play this game in 1PV they would be allowed to do so in separation from those that do.

Actually I have found that 90% of people prefer to fight in 1PV. However If I want to scout there are significant advantages to doing so within this mode. It changes a great many things, Stuff that you said wouldn't be an issue due to segregation.

I would as a major whale like an answer.

[Zyfe]

This is unacceptable. I want a refund of the ******* $80 I spent on Project Pheonix - spent on a game that had promised me one thing, but completely LIED about it and gave me something else.

This is false advertising. There must be laws against this ******* ********.

REFUND NOW PLEASE.

[Zphyr]

Disappointing.

[Mr Blonde]

VagGR, on 20 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

so this is the new core mechanic..3pv for spotting enemies 1pv to shoot them..switching back and forth between views this is what we ended up with...

please keep addressing your communitys wish list you are doing a great job at it. just let us know when are you planning to introduce regenarating health...or maybe a cover system...

VagGR, on 20 August 2013 - 02:04 PM, said:

so this is the new core mechanic..3pv for spotting enemies 1pv to shoot them..switching back and forth between views this is what we ended up with...

please keep addressing your communitys wish list you are doing a great job at it. just let us know when are you planning to introduce regenarating health...or maybe a cover system...

OOOOOOHHH OOOOOHHH can we have little boxes float down with shields, and extra ammo? And repair bays that magically fix us while we're in the field? Some N2O boosts so we can have the Atlases run at 100 kph? I have held my tongue a long time on this issue. No advantage from 3PV. What a sad joke this has become. Enjoy the game, tweens.

[Karr285]

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PGI/IGP in a Nutshell

[Alto]

"After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items."http://mwomercs.com/...66#entry2672566

Forgive me if im wrong and I do not mean to be personal but I read this as:

"After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that there would be a lack of intrest in the 3PV que and it would be difficult for anyone wanting to use this mode to find a game because lack of intrest in this feature. We have decided that because there is no in game lobby system and lack a sufficiant learning curve to our product to not impliment a 'harcore' mode."

I can only ask that you are as plain speaking and transparent about these 'wish list' items as possible. The fact that you do not expand or elucidate what these items are, leaves me with a very dim view right now. Please give us an insight into what this rethinking might look like?

Edited by Alto, 20 August 2013 - 02:30 PM.

[Desdain]

Just NO.

[DisasterMedic]

Zyfe, on 20 August 2013 - 02:09 PM, said:

This is unacceptable. I want a refund of the ******* $80 I spent on Project Pheonix - spent on a game that had promised me one thing, but completely LIED about it and gave me something else.

This is false advertising. There must be laws against this ******* ********.

REFUND NOW PLEASE.

Send an email to support@mwomercs.com and ask politely. It takes ~10 days for them to process your refund. Welcome to the "noise"/"vocal minority"/"whatever else the few remaining white knights will refer to us as."