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[phongbong]

Chris Roberts take us away from this swirled battleground of charred metal bone and flesh. I don't feel like a customer anymore. I've spent hundreds of dollars and I feel like I'm getting less and less from MWO. I don't want to be mean to PGI, I just don't feel like this game is going in the direction I had hoped it would. On an up-note Star Citizens hanger module is coming out this Saturday can't wait to see my Constellation.

Edited by phongbong, 20 August 2013 - 08:47 PM.

[KovarD]

DisasterMedic, on 20 August 2013 - 08:27 PM, said:

Excuse me, gentlemen, but it has been 41 pages in just a few short hours. We have hit our "Noise" quota for the day and must now return to our "Island of the Vocal Minority" as clearly all of the valid points you have raised in this thread are going to trigger Ghost Logic, in the face of which even the most warped and irrational mind must accept reality and admit a mistake.

Hahahaha. That's true!

[Sam Slade]

repete, on 20 August 2013 - 08:26 PM, said:

I'm seeing conflicting statements regarding refunds. Some have related to the time period back to which purchases (MC was specified) could be refunded (Made mention of March 22 2013). Many people have sighted the following:

http://www.competiti.../eng/03133.html

...The position I will be taking is, (We'll see how this stacks up) I am returning ALL of the items I have (Back to the Founders). I won't have them any more, so saying "you already have them" is moot because I won't "have them" because I am returning them for a refund.

Actually you have not received anything yet. The purchase was a pre-release outlay and, according to the vendor, the product has not been finished. The request for a refund actually has more in common with a withdrawal of funding for a proposition then it does with a traditional refund.

Either way, seeing as the finished product has not been delivered the vendor/developer has no grounds to deny reimbursement of invested monies.

[Tice Daurus]

http://mwomercs.com/...et-flamed-here/

For all people reading this thread and upset with PGI regarding their promise to us, go here, read it and post your LIKE. Show PGI that this is the TRUE issue here....

[3Xtr3m3]

I am involved in a community project. Teaching how to be a better person. (That is the short of it).
The following is a cut-paste from "My homework'. this month. The subject: Good Vs. Evil.

Spoiler

1. Consider Kohlberg’s dilemmas below. He would give these dilemmas to people and ask them to discuss them. He used their answers to establish the person’s level of moral development. How could he do that?

2. Read through the dilemmas and consider how you would answer. What level of moral development do your answers suggest?

Joe is a fourteen-year-old boy who wanted to go to camp very much. His father promised him he could go if he saved up the money for it himself. So Joe worked hard at his paper route and saved up the forty dollars it cost to go to camp, and a little more besides. But just before camp was going to start, his father changed his mind. Some of his friends decided to on a special fishing trip, and Joe’s father was short of the money it would cost to go. So he told Joe to give him the money he had saved from the paper route. Joe didn’t want to give up going to camp, so he thinks of refusing to give his father the money.
a. Should Joe refuse to give his father the money? Why or why not?
b. Does the father have the right to tell Joe to give him the money? Why or why not?
c. Does giving the money have anything to do with being a good son? Why or why not?
d. Is the fact that Joe earned the money himself important in this situation?
e. The father promised Joe he could go to camp if he earned the money. Is the fact that the father promised the most important thing in the situation? Why or why not?
f. In general, why should a promise be kept?
g. Is it important to keep a promise to someone you don’t know well and probably won’t see again? Why or why not?
h. What do you think is the most important thing a father should be concerned about in his relationship with his son? Why is that the most important thing?
i. In general, what should be the authority of a father over his son? Why?
j. What do you think is the most important thing a son should be concerned about in his relationship with his father?
k. In thinking back over the dilemma, what would you say is the most responsible thing for Joe to do in this situation? Why?

Anywho, I have to answer those questions in the hypothetical situation. Anyone else besides me see a similarity between themselves and Joe? Between PGI and the father in the above?

[repete]

White Panther, on 20 August 2013 - 05:17 PM, said:

After seeing PGI and NGNG teams play on streaming, how could anyone believe they have the credibility to actually know what is balanced or not?

Never forget the "Paul. Your game is broken" video.

[Sudden Reversal]

Simply put, if they implemented two queues the wait time on 3PV would be an eternity and therefore make the entire implementation reasoning moot.

Hence we are all lumped together with a toggle and default setting to 3PV to justify its existence.

[MonkeyCheese]

HAS UncleClint, on 20 August 2013 - 08:31 PM, said:

KEEP YOUR PROMISES - HOTFIX THE HARDCORE MODE ASAP - I WILL NOT WAIT TWO WEEKS UNTIL NEXT PATCH (OR SO)

I´m so close to hit uninstall and never come back again.

Im certain that there are plenty here that agree 100% with you.

Im feel so violated and lied to that I dont even want to play this game I love so much untill it is fixed. I am not uninstalling yet as the fix to separate the queues is simple and could be done in a hotfix.

But what of the future? will clans come? will community warfare come? will the flea and masc come? will knockdowns and proper collisions come back? will the speedcap get lifted? More than ever I feel so lost in the big ocean, where has my island gone?

[Bloody Moon]

repete, on 20 August 2013 - 08:37 PM, said:

Never forget the "Paul. Your game is broken" video.

Won't, that was golden.

[Joachim Viltry]

I dislike being lied too, further i dislike auto enabling options i personally despise. So, I'm done for a bit. Refund request e-mail sent in, because i'll be damned if they get to use my money for more ******** like this.

Will be keeping up with the forums in the vain hopes that my e-mail demanding a ******* apology for Russ's poor behavior in social media sees a result; and to watch all of the white knights desperately try to spin PGI as good guys in all of this.

No one I played with in each of the 4 matches i bothered to play tonight liked this cancerous pile of fail. And everyone I chatted with about it seemed to feel the sting of betrayal. lord knows I shot at every friendly drone I saw (oddly they seemed immune to FF) until the pilots took the hint.

vote with your wallets, folks.

[Karr285]

Can you really believe anything PGI has ever told us past or to come?

The fact they are now saying it works great combined with 1st per means they are set on us eating this garbage.

but yea no kidding its great in combo, 3rd to scout 1st to kill, yay just what we didnt want Thanks IGP for making PGI do dumb things to bolster your wallet.

[Zephyr Charge]

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After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.

ah; so there WONT be a second que as promised, theyre redesigning it.
Uninstalling

Edited by Zephyr Charge, 20 August 2013 - 08:48 PM.

[Genewen]

I will not bore anyone by reiterating all the points already made. My personal feedback is that I have uninstalled the game and am requesting refunds for all past investments. I already have my refund of the Project Phoenix Overlord and can only encourage anyone also wanting their money back to mail support@mwomercs.com.

[3rdworld]

Anyone wanna guess what the opportunity cost for 3PV development was?

Because it was wasted. one of the most irrelevant features I have seen in a long while.

[Zephyr Charge]

So; how long till you introduce Clans as a pay to play feature?

Cause I see that next.

[Lyoto Machida]

Warprince85, on 20 August 2013 - 05:39 PM, said:

_{I just dont get this anger against third person. I play this Game as I always have to design and worship giant mechs. Third person allows me to see my creation in all of its splendor. Dont like current version of the beta... start your own company and make a better version MW game. I do agree though there should be seperate queues.}

Man...3PV must be a huge deal in the community if it caused you to make your first post ever as a Founder.

[Damocles]

****.

[Tragos]

Zephyr Charge, on 20 August 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

So; how long till you introduce Clans as a pay to play feature?

Cause I see that next.

No, they said they would never do that!











Oh...

Edited by Tragos, 20 August 2013 - 08:52 PM.

[Rathmere]

I agree with Tarzilman, I like the 3PV, adds a new layer of tactics to the game. Yeah they could have done it better and added a queue but it not being there isn't going to stop me from playing.

[Gwaihir]

Angrah, on 20 August 2013 - 06:58 PM, said:

Well i guess the camel has a broken back now. Glad you liked my money but i'm off to play something else.

I love every single/two post legendary founder account posting in this thread. Nothing else would be able to get this many otherwise forums averse people to come out and state their feelings like the third rail of third person view.

PGI is for real between a rock and hard place here. Not enough players to split the queues and have it work, yet going ahead with combined queues is the single most rage inducing change MWO has ever seen.

Third person view itself is even such a small thing in the scheme of slapdash balancing and lack of content, which is the worst part.

Edited by Gwaihir, 20 August 2013 - 08:54 PM.