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[Wales Grey]

GrandLocomon, on 20 August 2013 - 11:48 PM, said:

At least I now know I'm not bugged because I can't click on the 'hardcore' (lol) button. Can't wait for the 1st person only queue!!! ...Did they say anywhere when we will get to select it? I'm not a hardcore hater of 3rd person; just completely disinterested in it (add a rear view camera and I'll love you!).

Sadly, there will be no "1pv only " queue.

http://mwomercs.com/...ost__p__2672566

[GrandLocomon]

WWWWWWWWWWWWW, on 20 August 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

They stated that there will be no 1st person only queue:
mwomercs.com/forums/topic/132422-where-are-those-queues/page__pid__2672566#entry2672566

Now I understand why people are saying they are going to/strongly considering leaving this game.

[Fuzzbox]

So you lied about the separate queues, and then decide to default to 3PV - This blows.

I was brought up to understand that lying is a bad thing, bad PGI

[Alcon]

Popping my forum cherry with my feedback:

Feedback - Support ticket submitted for refund of Legendary Founder's and Overlord Project Phoenix purchases

[Reaganomicon]

Alcon, on 20 August 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

Popping my forum cherry with my feedback:

Feedback - Support ticket submitted for refund of Legendary Founder's and Overlord Project Phoenix purchases

I wonder if you can do a chargeback on those.

[Huge]

Get your money back. If they do not refund it. Call your bank or credit card company and inform them you are the victim of fraud. Almost all of these cases result in immediate return of funds to your account. I worked internally with a point of sale company for years and they would much rather **** off some likely scam based company then the customer that directly supports their revenue. They will get your money back.

Do not let PGI lie and steal the money you so faithfully gave them in hopes they would keep their word. It isn't lost yet and they do not deserve it.

[Maethos]

Flyto, on 20 August 2013 - 11:50 PM, said:

I didn't like the idea of 3PV, but having tried it now, I don't have a big problem with it.

It's pretty much impossible to fight effectively in (at least in my experience so far, mostly in assaults - friends tell me it might be more useful for lights). When I tried hill-peeking it backfired - because while I could certainly see over hills, I had no way to know when my mech was showing to the enemy, so I advanced too far and took a lot of fire. It probably didn't help that the flashing light on the drone would have been telling the enemy team where to expect me!

What it does provide is a fun way to have a look at your mech - or at least a part of it, for large mechs. To actually see the paint job that you spent those MCs on is good, while you're stomping long distances into combat.

Maybe people will learn to fight effectively in 3PV... maybe not... I'm far from convinced that it was worth the development effort, but I don't think it's going to be game-breaking.

It is more effective the faster your mech is and if collisions,knockdowns and melee get in 3pv will only become more of a advantage. Even you in assault would get the advantage of seeing a scout behind you and just back into and knock it over and follow up with a point blank alpha(no aiming required) Its not game breaking but game changing and in a different direction then what was expected and some will say was sold to us. IMO anyways

[Chronojam]

Reno Blade, on 20 August 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Feedback turned into whining right from the start.
Not a single normal person here it seems.

This is from a while back but this is a pretty hilarious attitude. I wonder how he'll feel when he sees the results from the following nine hours since he made this post? Obviously it's just a case of a ton of abnormal people reacting unusually to perfectly fine circumstances!

Reno Blade, on 20 August 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:

Feedback turned into whining right from the start.
Not a single normal person here it seems.

This is from a while back but this is a pretty hilarious attitude. I wonder how he'll feel when he sees the results from the following nine hours since he made this post? Obviously it's just a case of a ton of abnormal people reacting unusually to perfectly fine circumstances!

[Almeras]

Well I hope my feed back gets through the 54+ pages for anger I've seen

First I understand why PGI did 3rd person. I don't like 3rd person and wish it wasn't in but that's besides the point.

• I think you view point should be locked either from the options menu or within the 1st moments of the match. I want to avoid the whole having to toggle back and forth in 12mans to eek out every iota of competitiveness from both modes. You pick you poison you make your choice.
  
• I would like to see the elevation for the camera lowered to 1st person height and a transparency (adjustable) cast on your mech allowing you to see what you're shooting at like this;
  
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[StandingCow]

Agreed Almeras. That would also actually allow new players to see their feet in all mechs, unlike now... which is the entire reason for 3PV.

Edited by StandingCow, 21 August 2013 - 12:36 AM.

[Corvus Antaka]

still dont see it as a problem. all night playing tonight.

1. the drones are flashing and super easy to spot. might as well wave an "IM OVER HERE" flag.

2. almost unplayable in 1PV due to the way the torso is locked and the circle floats. aiming is much harder.

3. not keen on seeing around building corners. my only real gripe is the spotting advantage it gives.

4. no to transparency. makes it too easy to spot and shoot stuff.

Edited by Colonel Pada Vinson, 21 August 2013 - 12:39 AM.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

Quote

After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items. lied to you again like so many times before.

FTFY.

PGI. let me tell you that you definitely lost another paying customer. Not because the game is absolutely unplayable now - I wouldn't go so far. But just because I'm not going to invest money in a company that repeatedly has shown that it

• utterly lacks the ability to deliver on their promises and
  
• permanently lies to it's customers

[Tegiminis]

My feedback:



(In case you don't get it: 3PV is the death knell to MWO, and by implementing it and reneging on previous promises, you are killing off your loyal fan base in attempts to vainly seek greater glory. This Is The End. At least, for the fans that brought you here. Good luck with the future, I suppose.)

Edited by Tegiminis, 21 August 2013 - 12:42 AM.

[repete]

Alcon, on 20 August 2013 - 11:59 PM, said:

Popping my forum cherry with my feedback:

Feedback - Support ticket submitted for refund of Legendary Founder's and Overlord Project Phoenix purchases

I so wish I wasn't out of likes. I would give you 100. To PGI. Remember how you listen to those with low post numbers. Here you go.

Huge, on 21 August 2013 - 12:04 AM, said:

Get your money back. If they do not refund it. Call your bank or credit card company and inform them you are the victim of fraud. Almost all of these cases result in immediate return of funds to your account. I worked internally with a point of sale company for years and they would much rather **** off some likely scam based company then the customer that directly supports their revenue. They will get your money back.

Do not let PGI lie and steal the money you so faithfully gave them in hopes they would keep their word. It isn't lost yet and they do not deserve it.

This is what I will do if I have to, but I am trying the refund via support@mwomercs.com route first.

[QuaxDerBruchpilot]

LOL you all sholud really really have a look at Russ Bullocks Twitter stream:

https://twitter.com/...946554863321089

They all have gone off their minds, it seems.

@ Russ: what are you smoking? Wanna have some of that stuff, must be great.

[Meldric Ward]

I do not have an idea if that has been stated before or not... (I don't have the time to read everything, as I need to work during the day)... Honestly sorry. If it was discussed before, just ignore my post.

3rd Person is an advantage. So why not implement it as a module and restrict the usage a bit? It would actually make sense, because it could be looked like a probe with a camera, hovering the own mech. Make the switching last a few seconds, make it consume 2 module slots (so that people will stop using it after they have learned how to use their Mechs feet) so that scouts can not switch quickly and everyone should be happy... Make it last for maximum 2 minutes, 2 times a game... This sort of things...

No?

Edited by Meldric, 21 August 2013 - 12:56 AM.

[Slaytronic]

Bryan Ekman

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Posted Yesterday, 04:16 PM


After designing, developing, and testing the MWO’s 3PV, we quickly realised that 3PV offered no significant advantage over 1PV. In fact we found each mode had pros and cons that played well with each other. This revelation changed our initial 3PV plans and we postponed Hardcore mode (separate queues for 1PV and 3PV), in favor of rethinking the idea and offering up a different solution that also addressed a few more community wish list items.


i loath your whole company I hope someone buys you company out from under you and fires everyone of you except the artist that made the mechs he is fine

Edited by Slaytronic, 21 August 2013 - 12:57 AM.

[repete]

Meldric, on 21 August 2013 - 12:51 AM, said:

3rd Person is an advantage. So why not implement it as a module and restrict the usage a bit?

Because that's not the objective. The objective is to make 3PV playable for those that want to play it. This is why there is no:

* Fog of war where you can't see targets that you wouldn't be able to see from your cockpit
* Why it's not a module
* Why the 3PV camera isn't destructable
* Why 3PV isn't totally nerfed
* Why 3PV isn't just in the training grounds

Edited by repete, 21 August 2013 - 12:56 AM.

[Evilwallofdeath]

Removes the "Fog of War" element from the game.

I don't like it. I suggest removing it completely, I know I certainly didn't sign on to play an arcade shooter.

Might even ask for a refund on my Overlord pack, but in anycase I'm probably done spending money on the game. I just don't see it succeeding now.

[dtgamemaster]

PGI. You just have to answer this question.

Is it good business sense to implement 3PV as it is now, and anger a community that actually cares about the franchise and have supported you where it matters most - thru their wallets?

I think I speak with good faith that you guys(PGI) want the franchise to thrive and bring in more players. So do take some time to seriously think about the feedback given thus far, and engage the community in a professional manner that will put an end to this toxic atmosphere.

Peace out.