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[Mista Whizzard]

Alex Warden, on 01 September 2013 - 10:48 PM, said:

you know what the problem with revolutions is? 1000´s may follow and fight along, but in the end, if victory might be achieved, every single one of them has his own opinion what to do with it.

i am personally not happy with some decissions PGI made, but i am also not happy with many of the "solutions" that people around this forums suggest. in fact, there are SO many "solutions", so many visions and ideas as there are people to make them,

i for one enjoy the game, just as i did during closed beta, and with some of the stuff PGI has on its table they seem to be on the right track. you can argue about 3rd person, and i don´t think it has a place in MWO, but that´s my PERSONAL opinion, and i know that there are close to as many contra 3rdPV players as there are pro 3PV players and "i don´t care either way" players.

i would love to see at least 12vs12 competative matches without it, and i am sure PGI will do that. All i really want, that is urgent right now (in MY opinion), are lobbys and arranged drops (2v2, 4v4, 8v8, 12v12) so we can make better trainings/ToP´s... and WAY more gamemodes and maps . and a well thought and fun to play CW to follow. i honestly don´t understand why PGI wasn´t focusing on the actual gamemodes way more during development, but hey, what do i know about what´s going on behind their doors?

and see? it´s not much that i want, but it´s ALOT of work behind that stuff, and then the next one comes up and says "yea well,but i also want C,D,F" and the nextone would add "EFG", while some others would hate D and G but rather want XYZ instead. This is what currently happens in the forums, and everyone wants HIS features in the game, or doesnt want this and that,and what shall PGI do? listen to ALL of us? to none of us? or rather make a cut and head on with their vision and maybe take some things into consideration?

One person wants more RPG elements, some want "walking on stations", i personally would love MWO more based on ArmA rather than WoT, and so on...

one exmple to finish this little post of mine: Gauss chargetime. I suggested this during CBT, and i am happy that PGI finally does it... and guess what? there are quite alot of people around here who hate the idea. . it´s another topic where 1000 people have 1000 different opinions on.

why can´t we just play the game and leave politics out?

revolution....you didnt read the mission statment...tut tut.

Mista Whizzard, on 02 September 2013 - 05:02 AM, said:

revolution....you didnt read the mission statement...tut tut.

[Mista Whizzard]

UPDATE: Registration is open for uniteanddrop.com This will definitely be the last update at this location - sorry, but it is too time consuming to maintain updates in multiple locations.

A reminder that registration is important for our collation of data. Now is the time to be counted guys.

PLEASE READ THE MISSION STATEMENT AND F.A.Q. BEFORE DECIDING WHETHER OR NOT TO REGISTER - THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!

A couple of members only sections will come online next couple of days. But no forums are likely to be required. Any questions, contact uniteanddropAToutlookDOTcom and one of the team will respond as soon as possible.

Unit Leaders, I am endeavoring to send personalised correspondence out to all of you regarding contacting you AFK. If you have not received anything yet, it is only because I have not yet found an effective and time-effective means of contact. Please read below:


Greetings gentlemen.

It’s Mista_Whizzard here, representing the UniteAndDrop team. Although there is much to say, I will keep this brief.

The purpose of this correspondence is to let you know that registrations are up on the uniteanddrop.com website for all who want to participate.

Over the last week we have been watching the website tracking data, which is showing an increasing number of unique visitors in addition to repeated visits. This data indicates most referrals are coming from the MWO website, but an increasing number of hits are coming from social media and links provided by supporters of the movement who are posting in the press articles that have been popping up of late. All of this is good news for the movement.

Now that registration for the event is active, what I really want to be seeing referrals coming from unit websites – that is you guys. If you are new to the uniteanddrop initiative, please take the time to read the mission statement and faq on uniteanddrop.com carefully, as this should familiarise yourself with what it is about.

I am asking you guys as unit leaders to endorse this movement on your own websites and in your own forums as much as possible. I’m asking for you to send mass emails to your communities, even to e-mail addresses of pilots who may no longer be a part of your unit or even playing the game. There seems to be many different views on what is/has gone wrong with the game – one thing I think we can all agree on is that there should be better communication and feedback systems in place to help PGI/IGP create the game that MWO should be. It is my wish that we can reach out to all who have already left the game to come back just long enough to help us make a difference here, and potentially retain them for the future.

The simplest point of the exercise is to demonstrate why we who are unhappy with the state of the game should be listened to, and that we are not a minority. In order to do that, we all need to be on board.

I accept the possibility that yourselves as individuals are happy with the way things are going. If this is the case I still ask you to endorse this event to others in your unit. Even if you feel everything is okay, better communication and feedback systems stand to improve things for everyone, not just those who are upset right now.

Let us unite as a community – and finally be heard.

UniteAndDrop Team.

[BFett]

I'm looking forward to a members registered counter!

[Mista Whizzard]

BFett, on 02 September 2013 - 07:08 AM, said:

I'm looking forward to a members registered counter!

This feature is definitely coming... I can tell you that within 20 minutes of registrations coming online lastnight we had 14 members with a total investment of $4700 (ish). Thats a promising start. But I'm unable to check this data ad hoc, so we have to wait for the counter to come up on the website.

[SIGR8O]

The purpose of the action.
The day of release back into the game and protest?
This will give the highest online on release day.

This is not the salvation of MWO. IT SABOTAGE!

High online and save PGI will bring good publicity:See how many people are playing with us since the release!
Good free advertising campaign. Spies of the PGI invented?


Good idea.
To persuade all the friends not playing and the do not spend money in MWO within 2 weeks of release.
(Meanwhile, in September coming out many new games, and a beta test BF4)

This will be a hit! That's PGI will notice!


PS Instead of the Phoenix Pack I buy BF4 +ALL DLS+PREMIUM TIME for 1 year!! Quality content is much higher! And I will not have to pay again and again!

Edited by SIGR8O, 03 September 2013 - 07:34 AM.

[Lyrik]

I really like your initiative Mista Whizzard .

It is a much more intelligent and useful idea than the goons trolllords of #savemwo.

But the questions about the money spent are useless. You don't have any possibility to verify that data so it is worthless and a waste of time.

[N0MAD]

Im not quite understanding this, you want people to drop on launch day? to protest?
How does this come over as a protest? if anything it will pad PGIs numbers, im a bit confused.
I took a count of personal friends, hardcore MW fans and all founders who now refuse to play, 32 in total (some of them said i know such n such who doesnt play) this count doesnt count others that may have, but i dont know personally.
32 isnt a big number i guess, but all of us just dont play or pay, meanwhile we have all dumped hundreds some thousands into games like WT and Star Citizen, this is how we protest. Does PGI care? dont know and to be quite honest we dont care, in the long run PGI needs customers, we dont need PGI.
IMHO you guys got it back to front, a protest would be more a protest if you didnt drop. but thats just me.

[Trev Firestorm]

N0MAD, on 03 September 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Im not quite understanding this, you want people to drop on launch day? to protest?
How does this come over as a protest? if anything it will pad PGIs numbers, im a bit confused.
I took a count of personal friends, hardcore MW fans and all founders who now refuse to play, 32 in total (some of them said i know such n such who doesnt play) this count doesnt count others that may have, but i dont know personally.
32 isnt a big number i guess, but all of us just dont play or pay, meanwhile we have all dumped hundreds some thousands into games like WT and Star Citizen, this is how we protest. Does PGI care? dont know and to be quite honest we dont care, in the long run PGI needs customers, we dont need PGI.
IMHO you guys got it back to front, a protest would be more a protest if you didnt drop. but thats just me.

I thought this was like the week before launch... 13th, launch is 17th...

Edited by Trev Firestorm, 03 September 2013 - 07:27 AM.

[Mista Whizzard]

Quick and dirty responses to the previous posts.

Trev Firestorm, on 03 September 2013 - 07:26 AM, said:

I thought this was like the week before launch... 13th, launch is 17th...

17th is confirmed as the launch date. The event is a few days prior, to maximise the time to rally the players.

N0MAD, on 03 September 2013 - 06:24 AM, said:

Im not quite understanding this, you want people to drop on launch day? to protest?
How does this come over as a protest? if anything it will pad PGIs numbers, im a bit confused.
I took a count of personal friends, hardcore MW fans and all founders who now refuse to play, 32 in total (some of them said i know such n such who doesnt play) this count doesnt count others that may have, but i dont know personally.
32 isnt a big number i guess, but all of us just dont play or pay, meanwhile we have all dumped hundreds some thousands into games like WT and Star Citizen, this is how we protest. Does PGI care? dont know and to be quite honest we dont care, in the long run PGI needs customers, we dont need PGI.
IMHO you guys got it back to front, a protest would be more a protest if you didnt drop. but thats just me.

As covered in the previous quote, UniteAndDrop is not happening on launch day. And in response to your comments about spending on other games, PGI has no way to measure the money you spend elsewhere mate...

UniteAndDrop will promote a blackout of launch day, but the length of this will be discussed at the next townhall meeting.

Lyrik, on 03 September 2013 - 04:13 AM, said:

I really like your initiative Mista Whizzard .

It is a much more intelligent and useful idea than the goons trolllords of #savemwo.

But the questions about the money spent are useless. You don't have any possibility to verify that data so it is worthless and a waste of time.

Thankyou for your support. Regarding the questions about money - We rely on your honesty - PGI has means to verify this data if they feel it necessary. It does not do the initiative any good for people to inflate these figures.

We need to rally and make this a success. The devs are watching, so are the publishers. We need to demonstrate the value of this disgruntled community as a customer base if we are to convince them they need to change their policies and procedures regarding interaction with the community.

My principle fear is that those who have already given up cannot be bothered returning... we need to convince them that it is worth it.

PLEASE GUYS - read the mission statement, and read the F.A.Q. I will update the F.A.Q tonight to cover these issues.

Whiz.

Edited by Mista Whizzard, 03 September 2013 - 05:24 PM.

[Shael]

Mista Whizzard, on 03 September 2013 - 05:09 PM, said:

As covered in the previous quote, UniteAndDrop is not happening on launch day. And in response to your comments about spending on other games, PGI has no way to measure the money you spend elsewhere mate...

UniteAndDrop will promote a blackout of launch day, but the length of this will be discussed at the next townhall meeting.



Thankyou for your support. Regarding the questions about money - We rely on your honesty - PGI has means to verify this data if they feel it necessary. It does not do the initiative any good for people to inflate these figures.

We need to rally and make this a success. The devs are watching, so are the publishers. We need to demonstrate the value of this disgruntled community as a customer base if we are to convince them they need to change their policies and procedures regarding interaction with the community.

My principle fear is that those who have already given up cannot be bothered returning... we need to convince them that it is worth it.

PLEASE GUYS - read the mission statement, and read the F.A.Q. I will update the F.A.Q tonight to cover these issues.

Whiz.

I have to agree with Whizzard completly on this.

If you are unsure of what we are trying to achienve visit http://www.uniteanddrop.com and read the faq's

Like Whizzard I am also concerned that now time has past some people may be thinking " whats the point" or the "devs are starting to listen look we have a movement tutorial now"

What I would say to those people who are hesitant or are sitting on the fence or can no longer be bothered with MWO anymore due to burnout (i know personally I am sufferning from burnout) is what do you have to lose by registering once and dropping one more time?

Absolutely nothing! except for 5 -15 minutes of your personal time.
Can you really just sit back and not do something that is constructive desgined and implementated in a constructive and polite manner?

If so we understand that but as Whizzard has said many time before he cannot sit back and do nothing for a game I personally know how much he loves and neither can I

Edited by Shael, 03 September 2013 - 06:13 PM.

[Itsalrightwithme]

Can I suggest that the event time be placed prominently on the top of the website, along with a time zone converter? (I like timeanddate.com)

It took me quite a while to find that information, I wanted to be very accurate and not make a mistake based off a countdown clock.

http://www.timeandda...sg=Uniteanddrop

[Mista Whizzard]

Itsalrightwithme, on 04 September 2013 - 06:40 AM, said:

Can I suggest that the event time be placed prominently on the top of the website, along with a time zone converter? (I like timeanddate.com)

It took me quite a while to find that information, I wanted to be very accurate and not make a mistake based off a countdown clock.

http://www.timeandda...sg=Uniteanddrop

Understood. We will implement this this evening.

[Kaijin]

Disappointed, disgusted, & disgruntled with PIG's conduct, I haven't dropped since January. For what it's worth, I am joining the drop.

[Lord Ikka]

While I, and others in my regiment, are annoyed/disappointed with the current community/PGI communications- we don't believe in boycotting/refund campaigns that attempt to "force" the Devs to deal with issues. Recent changes, listening to Faction units by making subforums for recruitment/latest patch that addressed some major balance issues in the game, have been for the better and I for one would like to give PGI a chance to continue the trend. I, personally, am keeping an open mind until the end of the year- this timeframe will truly tell me whether or not this game is worth continuing.

[Majorfatboy]

Dumb question....
The countdown timer on your website: Is that static, based off of whatever timezone you're in, or is what I'm seeing adjusted to My timezone?

In other words, I'm in U.S central daylight saving time (Wisconsin), is countdown time I'm seeing your time, or My time?

Again dumb question, but I suck at time zone conversion.....

[Trev Firestorm]

Majorfatboy, on 05 September 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Dumb question....
The countdown timer on your website: Is that static, based off of whatever timezone you're in, or is what I'm seeing adjusted to My timezone?

In other words, I'm in U.S central daylight saving time (Wisconsin), is countdown time I'm seeing your time, or My time?

Again dumb question, but I suck at time zone conversion.....

Count down timer is shown in time until the drop rather than listing the time of the drop, so timezones do not apply to it.

[Mista Whizzard]

Kaijin, on 04 September 2013 - 07:35 PM, said:

Disappointed, disgusted, & disgruntled with PIG's conduct, I haven't dropped since January. For what it's worth, I am joining the drop.

Good to see you're coming back to support the cause.

Lord Ikka, on 05 September 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

While I, and others in my regiment, are annoyed/disappointed with the current community/PGI communications- we don't believe in boycotting/refund campaigns that attempt to "force" the Devs to deal with issues. Recent changes, listening to Faction units by making subforums for recruitment/latest patch that addressed some major balance issues in the game, have been for the better and I for one would like to give PGI a chance to continue the trend. I, personally, am keeping an open mind until the end of the year- this timeframe will truly tell me whether or not this game is worth continuing.

Given that you reference this as a refund campaign, i suspect that you have not read the website correctly. But, to humor you, what if this trend does not continue? And where do we stand at the end of the year if it does not. How am I to inspire those who have left and have been gone a long time to return when existing players are taking a stance of: "we'll just wait and see, and if its no good we'll just leave."

PGI need to see the incentive to continue. I want to incentive to be the volume of continued support, not just a cease of hostility on the forums. I for one do not want to see them continue to make mistakes that cause this kind of reaction.

You are frustrated with the situation, why not participate, and feel good about the fact we tried to make a difference. It's 15 minutes of your lives guys. I have done my part guys, have done what I promised. The rest is up to you.

Majorfatboy, on 05 September 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Dumb question....
The countdown timer on your website: Is that static, based off of whatever timezone you're in, or is what I'm seeing adjusted to My timezone?

In other words, I'm in U.S central daylight saving time (Wisconsin), is countdown time I'm seeing your time, or My time?

Again dumb question, but I suck at time zone conversion.....

Not a dumb question - So long as the clock in your operating system is set correctly, the website timer is accurate. Will add this to the F.A.Q.

[Mista Whizzard]

There seems to be a lot of skeptics out there in regard to UniteAndDrop being ineffective compared to a blackout. We had some cancellations this arvo at work, so I thought I'd toss together a quick and dirty representation on why we are sync-dropping as opposed to simply boycotting launch day alone.

The graph below (remember - quick and dirty!) should show the situation adequately to justify to all why we need to come back for this drop. Without the spike in the graph - the data collected has no real impact. So please - lets band together and show PGI that our support will be there if they change the way they are doing things!

[PlzDie]

I am registered and will be dropping, I really hope that this has a positive impact on the direction of this game. I will most probably disconnect right after dropping, if it happens it is not intentional the internet connection I have right now is very iffy.

[Spudbuddy]

this seems like some kind of gold/ngng plot to get people to actually play the game, protip: if you don't like the direction fo MWO cuz it's just being ported to xbox1 and has a really cynical and manipulative design philosophy with the direction it's taking then go play hawken, it's a robot game with devs who actually respect themselves and care about their work. They can also compete in foreign markets because they're not idiots and can actually do something.