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#1 Imperius

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 10:31 PM

I bought the project phoenix pack overlord tier. I see this bar and the main page as well as the game launcher advertising community rewards. I think it's kind of BS that we may not unlock all the rewards if there isn't enough people to jump on the wagon and buy it. I feel kinda cheated anyone else feel that way about it? I think if you bought it you should get all the rewards regardless if others bought it.

#2 No Guts No Glory

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:15 PM

Yes, I totally feel cheated that they added bonus rewards to something I've already bought...oh wait.

Bonus rewards are in addition to the contents of the pack you purchased, why anyone would feel cheated out of anything I'll never understand

#3 John MatriX82

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:00 AM

I'm still waiting to get the a permanent Founders color unlocks. We've been much more loyal in the CB times, yet we're slowly getting customizable Founder mechs only after 1 year of service.

#4 Perilthecat

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 07:09 AM

Don't buy the Phoenix package with the expectation of getting all the

FREE

ADDED

BONUSES

That isn't what they are selling. They are selling the base package. If that isnt a good deal for you, cancel your order. If they had never announced bonuses would you even be complaining?

#5 Alex Warden

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 08:17 AM

never heard of stretchgoals,huh?

#6 EyeDie I

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:00 AM

presale gave you 30days extra prem time (ignoring the cbill nerf) i didnt buy phoenix because you still cant find the loadouts on the variants...but adding paint or customization on top of the original pack doesnt seem like a bad thing to me.

#7 Mcgral18

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:11 AM

View PostEyeDie I, on 22 August 2013 - 10:00 AM, said:

presale gave you 30days extra prem time (ignoring the cbill nerf) i didnt buy phoenix because you still cant find the loadouts on the variants...but adding paint or customization on top of the original pack doesnt seem like a bad thing to me.


If you look up the variants on Sarna, you'll have a good idea on the minimum hardpoints on the varients.

The locust will have a 5 Energy varient and a 2Missile and maybe 3Energy (or 1) variant.

#8 EyeDie I

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:32 AM

View PostMcgral18, on 22 August 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:


If you look up the variants on Sarna, you'll have a good idea on the minimum hardpoints on the varients.

The locust will have a 5 Energy varient and a 2Missile and maybe 3Energy (or 1) variant.


i would rather know what im buying before hand than have in idea of what i 'might' be buying.i prefer smurfy or mechromancer because they show mwo mechs not battletech lore.(which doesnt seem to translate well into a video game)

if you play star trek online and wear a red shirt do you have to die 20 times more than gold or blue shirts?

Edited by EyeDie I, 22 August 2013 - 10:34 AM.


#9 Mcgral18

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 10:33 AM

You'll get their stock loadout, with guaranteed hardpoints. There may be extra hardpoints for balance, but you get a good picture of what you're buying.

#10 TheStrider

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 11:37 AM

It's amazing what people will complain about...

Oooh Oooh, here's one:

"Waaaah, my free colors I didn't know I was going to get when I paid for the Pheonix package are almost the same as the free colors I didn't know I was getting with my PC Gamer skin."

:D

I think it's great.

#11 Chemie

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:21 PM

There is nothing free here. Colors are already available for all mechs. Now phenoix colors are for all mechs.
Translation: We did not think it was worth the time to program it out but we will make it sound like we are giving you something.

Sheep.

#12 Zerberus

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:21 PM

Yet more proof that the MWO community can and will complain about anything and everything in known or uncharted space, as long as PGI presents it.

Most of us bought the pack before these were announced. For us, it`s free swag on top of the early bird bonus we already got.

For those that missed out on the EB bonus, it`s just another thing to complain about now that it`s become obvious that complaining about missing said offer only makes you look like a (bleep) and get laughed off the forums.

I expect the exact same thing to happen to those instead now complaining about the "kickstart style" perks.

Please, allow me to get the ball rolling (All in good fun, no offense intended to anyone specific *raises beer stein* )
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#13 Perilthecat

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:47 PM

View PostZerberus, on 22 August 2013 - 02:21 PM, said:

Yet more proof that the MWO community can and will complain about anything and everything in known or uncharted space, as long as PGI presents it.

Most of us bought the pack before these were announced. For us, it`s free swag on top of the early bird bonus we already got.

For those that missed out on the EB bonus, it`s just another thing to complain about now that it`s become obvious that complaining about missing said offer only makes you look like a (bleep) and get laughed off the forums.

I expect the exact same thing to happen to those instead now complaining about the "kickstart style" perks.

Please, allow me to get the ball rolling (All in good fun, no offense intended to anyone specific *raises beer stein* )
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Exactly!

I cannot fraking believe that people are complaining about free stuff.

Is it even possible to be that entitled? What's next, complaining that the game isn't really F2P because they accept money for optional content?

#14 tucsonspeed6

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 05:52 PM

In the past few months I've noticed a clear ******* match to see who can be the most victimized by a free to play game that's still in beta.

Why is it so hip around here to act like we're being tortured? (Bonus cool points if you know the developers by name and vent your impotent rage at them like you actually know them)

#15 ICUBurn

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 06:53 PM

im surprised they ahvent updated that bar yet with all the people asking for refunds. its probly droped below the first unlock by now.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:17 AM

View PostImperius, on 21 August 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

I bought the project phoenix pack overlord tier. I see this bar and the main page as well as the game launcher advertising community rewards. I think it's kind of BS that we may not unlock all the rewards if there isn't enough people to jump on the wagon and buy it. I feel kinda cheated anyone else feel that way about it? I think if you bought it you should get all the rewards regardless if others bought it.


Those rewards weren't part of the original deal, they were added weeks later in response to how successful the project is. So no, I don't feel 'cheated' about being freely given something I didn't ask for.


View PostICUBurn, on 22 August 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

im surprised they ahvent updated that bar yet with all the people asking for refunds. its probly droped below the first unlock by now.


I bet you could count the number of people who actually forced a refund on your fingers.

Edited by Toong, 23 August 2013 - 06:19 AM.


#17 TexAce

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 06:34 AM

The bonus rewards are STRETCHGOALS.

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 12:50 PM

View PostToong, on 23 August 2013 - 06:17 AM, said:

I bet you could count the number of people who actually forced a refund on your fingers.

You probably shouldn't make that bet, because you will lose. I know of that many people personally. My own refund was sent to payment processing today and I received an email confirming it.

#19 logiccosmic

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

Seriously?

They are buying it too.
I bought it early, and got free time. Good enough for me.

Other people are buy it now, post early-bird, and we all get free colors out of it?

What exactly is your problem?

Sidenote: Of course, if they really wanted to sell more, they make the colors/patterns available now.

#20 Perilthecat

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostRoadkill, on 23 August 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

You probably shouldn't make that bet, because you will lose. I know of that many people personally. My own refund was sent to payment processing today and I received an email confirming it.


Why exactly did you refund your package? The whole thing seems apes**t crazy to me.

So, you don't want the thing that you bought because there is a small chance you won't get all the free stuff you didn't know you were getting when you originally decided it was a good purchase? What? The? Frack?

Do you not like the game? Do you not find it fun? Do you not want it to succeed so that it will still be around in 5 years?

Maybe you should stop playing. Delete the game, shut down your account. THAT will teach PGi to give you free stuff!

Crazy load of nut butter.





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