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[JonahGrimm]

Well. Day three in MWO, and having a ball.. except.

I just got through with a game where I turned out to be the most egregious teamkiller the world's likely seen to-date (gents, if you were in that game - or one of those two catapults - I apologize.)

How did it happen?

Well, we were taking a platform and I'd picked up a catapult that had fallen into the lava below the center of Theta on the volcanic map. I was fighting a victor; he got away. I turned, and looked - and two catapults below. I didn't target; there was a red triangle, so I opened fire, trying to find an angle to block their ascent. Thought I was doing well, too.

Turns out - they were on my team. I never saw the indicators. Honestly, I thought they were out of ammo; there were a lot of LRMs coming from that pit. No excuse, though.

So, newbies? How can you avoid my mistake?

When you're on a target, take a second to check your map. Don't get so much tunnel vision that you miss the fact that the bad guy you thought was there was already killed, and you're taking out the guys who had done the killing (and losing your team the match, /and/ blowing your rep).

And... if you're getting shot by a friendly? Say something! Nobody said a word until they were shot to pieces - it's not an excuse, by any means, but man. Just one line of text, and I would have fallen over myself apologizing and trying to make up for my stupid.

*sigh* So, yes. Don't be a me. Triple check your targets, if the battle's been hectic! Trust me. It's worth the time.

- Grimm.

[Hexenhammer]

I was in a match, fighting an atlas and we were all over the place in River City. I turn a corner and WHAM! I stop because I ran into the back of the atlas! BOOM goes the dynamite. I alpha strike with everything I have. Right into the back of my own team mate. Whoops.

So it happens. Don't worry about it. Its learning experience. And the reason why the TM's didn't complain is because they were in the heat of the battle as well and thought it was the enemy attacking them. I know when things get crazy FF is happening all over the place but I, like many others don't complain about it because its part of the game.

And speaking of FF. I have to say the MWO community is pretty good about keeping it under control because I've gone weeks and not seen a FF TK. But alas this weekend I was in a spider and took FF. Two Gauss rounds to the back sort of made me dead. I'm looking at your Jagermech! LOL. So don't worry about it. It happens. And in the future you'll be more aware of whats going on and that's a good thing.

[East Indy]

Hexenhammer, on 18 August 2013 - 06:21 PM, said:

And speaking of FF. I have to say the MWO community is pretty good about keeping it under control because I've gone weeks and not seen a FF TK.

Indeed. Usually they're pretty swiftly dealt with.

The funniest instance of friendly fire (resulting in a team kill) was a joker running a Spider. The second-to-last enemy had been destroyed, and the Spider player, who had been harassing him with flamers, ran around trying to torch whatever was in front of him.

Eventually, a friendly Atlas was in front of him.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFT, went the Spider, torching the Altas' back. FFFFFFFFFFT, FFFFFFFFFT.

FFFFFFFT.

The Atlas stopped. The Spider stopped. Slowly, like they always do, the Atlas turned and looked down at the Spider.

The Spider looked up at the Atlas.

Three seconds went by.

FFT, went the Spider with his flamer, and was immediately turned inside out by every weapon the Atlas owned.

[StarGeezer]

We both must have started the same time, Jonah. I've only been playing since last Thursday or Friday, so am as green as can be. And I've been where you are.

We were by the tunnel in Frozen City Nighttime. I was doing my best to hide in my K2 between the buildings, when this armless, limping Atlas just walked around the corner. BOOM...Alpha, and down he goes! My first (and thankfully, only so far) TK. So it happens. LOL

[Edson Drake]

FF happens.

It's never an issue in the heat of battle to accidentally hit a mate in the back. The problem is as mentioned, when it is intentional.

I had quite a few intentional shots at my back, it's a problem when you don't see whose mech was because there are about four behind you, so you can't report him. When it isn't intentional, you usually see "sorry" being spammed quickly. I don't mind that, it happens.

But damn, I get pissed when one ****** fire that medium laser on my back on purpose.

[Nauht]

Just be careful when the red triangle overlaps a friendly, especially in thermal vision.

Position yourself so you can see what you're shooting at, not just at the red triangle.

[Y2kHippy]

My worst TK is very different...

As a dedicated light pilot I am often found running around at high speed not looking where I am going but shooting those around me. I have often ran into my own team mates (usually my own friends that I am in comm's with) and being already super hurt I double leg myself or CT myself on their Mech. It has happened maybe 10 or more times so far and what gets me is that if it was a random player that I ran into they always apologise to me. Its then left to me to say sorry and that it was my fault they they lost the C-Bills and XP. My friends just laugh at it.

[Hammerfinn]

I once died in River City because an Atlas stepped off the ledge onto me. FF happens, and it's not always even something egregious or at all purposeful... but an apology is always nice!

[Hexenhammer]

I saw some guilt by location FF. The victim was hit on left side was hit by ff by a mech on his six. The victim twisted left and blast the guy at his 9. LOL. It could have gotten out of hand but it didn't.

Now I did see it get out of hand. I swapped screens and clicked back to the game. I hit some with small lasers and apologized and didn't return fire when I was hit back. But you would have thought I had said his mom wore combat boots. I was a noob. I was this and I was that. It was grade A e-rage and I just ignored it but five minutes into the game the guy was still complaining about it and he was dead and it was my fault.

It's when he said 'I'm recording this and I'm turning you in." That's when I told him what I thought about his threat and I demanded that he got my name right when he sent in 'report' to make sure he got my name right. First and only time I've ever seen that.

[Havok1978]

ROFL.... N0000000000000B!!

LoL nah dont worry about it, stuff happens, but all you can do is apologize, the community is actually pretty forgiving unless your being a jackass about it... also to note there are infact two things happening atm that make it easier than the norm to have an "accident"

#1 mech dies but its target indicator stays active.. the mech is dead for sure... but you can still target it, this causes confusion and accidents... especially when other pilots on the team crowd around the fallen mech and keep shooting it being *******...
when that happens even an LRM boat can lock the dead mech from a distance and fire on it and TK team tards by accident.

#2 lag baby... lag can do all kinds of stuff especially when smaller mechs are behind a friendly...

but as a few ppl have stated, FF sux but hey, it happens and no one can really complain about it cuz we have ALL done it a few times... but it is when it is done out of spite or sheer stupidity that ppl get angry .. for example

the "test fire tard"
hes the guy that shoots you and a few other ppl in the back while test firing his weapons for no apparent reason... typically at the start of the match when you first drop in... dont be a TFT... if you need to test fire weapons, then shoot them in the air or into a wall away from the team, or into the ground at your feet... and dont ever do it right when you drop in cuz ppl are trying to get moving and maneuver around slower mechs etc.. just not a good place for it.
it makes ppl angry cuz it is 100% avoidable

the "excited to be here tard"
this is the guy who never stops shooting and prolly shouldnt be playing this game. he will prolly shoot you when he drops in, while you are running to the engagement and everywhere inbetween.. hes clearly test firing his lasers and prolly dancing with his mech and just in general you already know chances are high this guy will shoot you or one of your loved ones...
it makes ppl angry becuse... well.. hes on our team and in our ELO bracket somehow

the "loyalist/grudge tard"
you pissed this guy off previously, or he pissed you off somehow somewhere down the line someone pissed in someones cherrie-o's and by gawd they are gonna kill you at all costs!
it makes ppl angry cuz this isnt the hetfield and mccoy's and you are depriving the team of 2 players cuz of a vendetta that no one else there cares about...

the "troll tard"
this guy runs his mouth till someone finally shoots him or he shoots someone... for description see the "excited to be here tard"

LoL but just being a n00b tard?
nah no one here is gonna get mad about that if you apologize, well, they may get mad for a second or two but after a minute they will prolly laugh and start telling thier buddies on comms about the times they messed up and TK'ed someone when they were a noob also, its no biggie...

anyways I hope everyone had a laugh at my "tard" post

[RLBell]

It is possible to score a team kill with LRM's, but it requires the cooperation of the team mate. So, if you kill an enemy while the LRM inbound symbol is showing, DO NOT STAND ON TOP OF THE WRECK!

[Blalok]

Edson Drake, on 18 August 2013 - 08:24 PM, said:

FF happens.

It's never an issue in the heat of battle to accidentally hit a mate in the back. The problem is as mentioned, when it is intentional.

I had quite a few intentional shots at my back, it's a problem when you don't see whose mech was because there are about four behind you, so you can't report him. When it isn't intentional, you usually see "sorry" being spammed quickly. I don't mind that, it happens.

But damn, I get pissed when one ****** fire that medium laser on my back on purpose.

I *had* to like this when I saw the sig. lulz - meatier than my first Pentium (MMX 166)

[Havok1978]

RLBell, on 18 August 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

It is possible to score a team kill with LRM's, but it requires the cooperation of the team mate. So, if you kill an enemy while the LRM inbound symbol is showing, DO NOT STAND ON TOP OF THE WRECK!

also you dont have to have a lock to fire LRM's you can be firing them at a distant peice of land and someone run thru that sector after the volley has been unleashed...

[Fuerchtegott]

There was this one guy ...
I stood there and fired at an enemy and he run into my line of fire, of course I stopped, moved a lil bit and went on with my deadly hellfire. The dude cryed about ff in the chat.
1 minute later he run again into my aim while I was firing, same **** again, complaining included.
The third time I was so annoyed by him, I stepped a few meters back and turned him into a pile of metal crap.
Yes, ff can happen accidential and very intentional simultaniously.

[Havok1978]

Blalok, on 18 August 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

I *had* to like this when I saw the sig. lulz - meatier than my first Pentium (MMX 166)

LoL right I saw that and was like WTF.. then remembered during those days I had a cyrix M6 proc i think is what it was? ROFL FFS.. I'm feeling old

Fuerchtegott, on 18 August 2013 - 09:28 PM, said:

There was this one guy ...
I stood there and fired at an enemy and he run into my line of fire, of course I stopped, moved a lil bit and went on with my deadly hellfire. The dude cryed about ff in the chat.
1 minute later he run again into my aim while I was firing, same **** again, complaining included.
The third time I was so annoyed by him, I stepped a few meters back and turned him into a pile of metal crap.
Yes, ff can happen accidential and very intentional simultaniously.

battlefield awareness is OP!

[Genewen]

RLBell, on 18 August 2013 - 09:22 PM, said:

It is possible to score a team kill with LRM's, but it requires the cooperation of the team mate. So, if you kill an enemy while the LRM inbound symbol is showing, DO NOT STAND ON TOP OF THE WRECK!

I've managed to make an enemy player teamkill his buddy with LRMs. I, in my Stalker, was the last player of our team on the map, with four guys of the other team ganging up on me. My side torsos were gone and my weapons with them, it was only a matter of seconds until I'd go down. But the guy about 50m in front of me was nearly dead as well and I knew that their LRM boat was making it rain the best it could. So I went full throttle forward, tried to hug the other mech and just as I reached him, the last LRM salvo arrived and both he and I went down.
That was one of the two deaths I managed to cause while not having a single weapon. The other one was an overzealous Stalker pilot, who desperately wanted to get that kill instead of his Cicada buddy. So he hit the override to get that last salvo in, but my zombie-Atlas could take more punishment than he thought. He died to the heat and everyone, including him, laughed together in chat while his buddy slowly killed my mech.

Edited by Genewen, 18 August 2013 - 10:10 PM.

[Razil]

I don't think I'veever tked ssomeone but for example this evening I was playing only four of use left on the team the other three were chasing a little spider around while I ran across the map being chased by the at least four or five Mech. I came into my teams sight and the continued to case the spider as I got torn apart. So I gave to of them a blast from my mpl at about 320 m to get there attention. As its kinda hard to type while running around and torso twisting. I'm sure one of them gona report me but without in game coms I think some people just need a little flick to get out of there tunnel vision.

[The Basilisk]

@PO Nevermind, I think everyone has one or two realy embarrasing team kills on his record.
The top tree on my list:

- Canyon Network: A friendly Jenner and me in my Blackjack are intercepting an enemy ECM Raven that was blocking our LRM boats Target aquisition. The bird ran into a canyon covered by an enemy Centurion. We pursued coutiously and slowly. Both enemy were out of sight behind some canyon wall. ECM jamming was still on and suddenly a Centurion fell into my field of vision 30 to 50 meters away, turning his ugly face right into me.
I fired .... everything ... 4 medium Lasers and two heavy Lasers. Right ... in ... his ... face.
Headshoot.
But instead of congratulations for my awsome shooting the flame in teamchat was blazing at me.
-,- killed one of my team mates driving an centurion who was jumping down a canyon wall to join our pursiut.

- Frozen City: The fight was on and nearly everyone had brought their brawlers to battle. The Battle was raging between the Buildings most people were entangled in single combat with enemys. Sneaky as I am I hid in the ECM shadow of an enemy Atlas taking potshots at medium ranges. Suddenly I became aware of an enemy catapult coverhopping from the right side of the atlas. Obviously trying to sneak up our backs. Oh for crying out loud I thought its an A1 with SRMs. I told the Atlas what I just saw and hid behind a building and the enemy pult passed by without noticing me. I powered up, steped out behind the Building and gave him 2 SRM6 2 heavy Laser and 2 medium laser right CT in his back. The guy must have already been damaged so he was down in one salvo.
I steped clear of the Building to my atlas friend who was facing me. Than It was suddenly VERY bright.....and I was dead. The Atlas just shoot me in my head. I was driving a Catapult C1(F).

- one time I killed an enemy Awsome with LRMs (75 LRMs Stalker) that had driven a friendly commando with his back to a wall. But instead of beeing the Hero I miscalculated the needed firepower. The first salvo killed the Awsome and the second killed the comando who was sill entangled in the wreck.
-,-

[KableGuy]

Blalok, on 18 August 2013 - 09:26 PM, said:

I *had* to like this when I saw the sig. lulz - meatier than my first Pentium (MMX 166)

My first Pentium was the Pentium 60. The one with the math bug. I think it had like 500 MB of ram. Oh and a 33.6 modem.

[LennStar]

Just a warning to all new players:
If a Mech covers at a hill, moving fore and back - don't get near him. Dont stand beside him or in his back.
1) in his back you pretend him from retreating - say LRM or DualGauss.
2) Especially if he is using PPC, he is likely using zoom. You cant see what is at the front of your arm in zoom. I once shooted a teammate 3 or 4 PPCs in the back with my left arm. He didnt say a word, i just stopped because I though "there was no rock here stopping the fire before, was there??".


btw: please try to not hit your friendly lights. Really try it. Our lights live is erratic movement. So try to have a safety distance when shooting near a friends light. Save the shots 2 or 3 seconds if not, the light is likely to move from his position.
The worst thing for a light is chasing another light while 4 other guys try to hit the fleeing enemy. I sometimes get more FF then the enemy is hit.

Edited by LennStar, 18 August 2013 - 11:16 PM.