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[Grimmnyr]

This would be a good compromise. It would keep skilled, but honorless players from exploiting 3PV.

[ryoma]

This is terrible. If I vote yes then that means I'm forced to play with 3PV if I drop solo. If I vote no then nothing changes and I'm forced to play with 3PV.

why.

This reminds me of EA/Bioware

[Salient]

Yeah I deleted my vote, this poll is useless, you've already decided to do this, you're just using this to see how many people have bailed and how many may come back.

[Hollander Burial]

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You guys do know that the poll is loaded question!


"The public queues will remain a mix of 1PV and 3PV modes and Hardcore mode will be removed from the drop down list. Future enhancements to the matchmaker will allow stricter tonnage limits, and encourage a more fair and level playing field for all MWO matches."
By voting yes you agree that 12v12 should be 1pv only
AND THAT THEY REMOVE "HARDCORE MODE" FROM THE QUEUES
They are asking you to vote yes for the very thing they said they couldn't do.
I IMPLORE YOU TO GO RETRACT YOUR VOTE IF YOU HAVE VOTED

This

This is just a troll poll

[Pyrrho]

Hollander Burial, on 28 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

This

This is just a troll poll

[Kahoumono]

Abstain, this feels like an olive branch towards PGI's definition of the "vocal minority" but the truth is most people just want a level playing field not just groups. I almost pug exclusively thanks to my 30-50% disconnect rate (I don't want to be a burden to my team with something completely outside my control). I wished money used for developing 3PV went to fixing some of the bugs which have plagued this game since the start but that's water under the bridge. I also understand there may be a market for 3PV as PGI tries to reach out to a greater audience and at the moment there may not be enough players using 3PV to justify separate queues at the moment. Rather than this band aid fix I would prefer if there is better communication on what is planned for 3PV. What would even be better is how 3PV success is measured, how 3PV players are counted and finally will it be separate once there is critical mass? I have a sneaking suspicion that the number of new players is highly correlated with 3PV use because there isn't really a tutorial informing new players there are different modes.

[Lucky Noob]

Salient, on 28 August 2013 - 04:21 PM, said:

Yeah I deleted my vote, this poll is useless, you've already decided to do this, you're just using this to see how many people have bailed and how many may come back.

same here.

[Tagichatn]

Somehow I doubt this will make 12v12 mode any less dead than it is. As it is, you have to sync drop if you want a decent chance of finding a match. This could easily be fixed by letting people queue in 2-12 size groups so I can actually play this game with my friends.Fortunately, the game has gone so far downhill that I don't have to worry about having more than 3 friends to play with since they all quit!

[Monsoon]

I don't hate 3PV personally, but I have no combative use for it, I do like it for looking at my mech.

However, I don't think it should be part of 12v12.

[Kunae]

Hollander Burial, on 28 August 2013 - 04:23 PM, said:

This

This is just a troll poll

[Xeno Phalcon]

I voted yes because one of the biggest reasons given for putting 3pv in was so new players could get accustomed to the whole learning to aim their legs seperate from their torso bit, which newbies in theory wont be in 12v12 premades.

[Kunae]

Xeno Phalcon, on 28 August 2013 - 04:30 PM, said:

I voted yes because one of the biggest reasons given for putting 3pv in was so new players could get accustomed to the whole learning to aim their legs seperate from their torso bit, which newbies in theory wont be in 12v12 premades.

Which it fails at, horribly.

3pv, as implemented, is not newbie friendly.

[Monky]

Things I would like to see;

3PV/1PV combined 'Arcade' queue similar to how Warthunder operates
1PV only 'Simulation' queue similar to how MWO was prior to 3PV inclusion
12v12 with 3PV/1PV
12v12 with 1PV only

For all of these queues, have a 'no preference' option to minimize wait time between games. Have the game types you prefer be consistent so that people don't have to constantly reselect (which would otherwise lead to incorrect selections on accident and people DC'ing).

I would also like to see some refinements to 3rd person view to minimize exploitation and enhance the new user experience as documented and evidenced in this thread; http://mwomercs.com/...tracing-errors/

I understand that these things may not seem like they are worth dev time - however in terms of maintaining a strong community it is invaluable. A 'no preference' option gives a lot of wiggle room in either direction should you suspect that not many will directly opt for 3PV currently, allowing future players who wish to use it to get into matches.

Edited by Monky, 28 August 2013 - 05:08 PM.

[Kunae]

Monky, on 28 August 2013 - 04:33 PM, said:

Things I would like to see;

3PV/1PV combined 'Arcade' queue similar to how Warthunder operates
1PV only 'Simulation' queue similar to how MWO was prior to 3PV inclusion
12v12 with 3PV/1PV
12v12 with 1PV only

For all of these queues, have a 'no preference' option to minimize wait time between games. Have the game types you prefer be consistent so that people don't have to constantly reselect (which would otherwise lead to incorrect selections on accident and people DC'ing).

Which is exactly what they said they were going to do, back when they announced they were putting it in.

[Warge]

Bryan Ekman, on 28 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

This gives our core audience, who represent almost exclusively the 12 man team group play,

Not "12 man team group play" only. Again u r wrong.

Bryan Ekman, on 28 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

a place to enjoy a pure 1PV experience.

What sum should hardcore players pay every month to you (PGI/IGP) to get 1PV without any restrictions?

[Hellcat420]

CapnFaiiboat, on 28 August 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

So you won't say you are for or against it, but will still decide complain instead of being part of a solution. Nice! Unfortunately when you try to straddle the fence, you eventually fall off. #waffleon

when both options are essentially for the same thing(and neither will fix the problem) there is no solution to be part of.

[Wolfways]

CapnFaiiboat, on 28 August 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:

So you won't say you are for or against it, but will still decide complain instead of being part of a solution. Nice! Unfortunately when you try to straddle the fence, you eventually fall off. #waffleon

Show me where the solution is and i'll add my vote.

[Hellcat420]

Pyrrho, on 28 August 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

pgi lookin to collect the troll toll?

[Chet Los]

Thank you for listening to our concerns and coming back with an amicable solution.

[Droz]

Fine. You still need to give us the option for nothing but 1pv though. It's a step in the right direction, but you still aren't going to get much more support until you give us what was advertised.