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[Franchi]

You know at the end of the day i have to admire the cleverness of this its bloody brilliant!

If we don't vote
PGI: see no one cares!!!

If we vote no:
PGI: See they care and they think 1pv only is TERRIBLE!!!

If we vote yes:
PGI: See they think that it should never be forced first person in a non 12v12 setting!!!!


Ten months from now when 12v12 is as dead as it is now becasue everyone gave up after getting tired of being forced to only play when they can find 11 other people, other people they have to find with no game lobby and the most primitive social system ever invented.

PGI: See 1PV was NEVER POPULAR! We can now remove the restriction on 12v12 and maybe save it!

Its underhanded, dishonest and brilliant.

If they put half this much effort and forethought into developing MWO we would have had the clan invasion already.

Edited by Franchi, 28 August 2013 - 04:43 PM.

[Synra]

I... can't vote in this poll. Neither option suits me. The poll is ridiculous and bias.

I was never a pre-made player. I did often launch with a few friends, but I never played in full groups of 8, much less 12. I have never had a problem with launching into pug matches. I actually feel that blind random games are more interesting. But I absolutely require 1pv if I am to ever play this again. You can't be forcing me to play in premade matches for such a stupid reason.

I don't play this game to be hardcore competitive. Maybe someday if community warfare ever shows up, but not the way it is now. I don't care about pre-mades, I care about just launching and having fun.

It is not okay to say something like 'all of our players who want 1pv always launch in pre-mades". It's insane, untrue and unfair. But at this point, it's not at all surprising. This is just yet another insulting post from PGI.

Why can't you just admit the truth and face reality. You cannot be forcing players to launch into a games with players who play in 3pv. Every single player should have the right to completely avoid any and all 3pv players. This is not unreasonable. You knew from the beginning that 3pv had absolutely no place in Mechwarrior. You knew when you announced it several months ago that you HAD to provide players with the option of launching 1pv only matches. So why are you screwing us now? I really don't understand why PGI is so insistent on forcing 3pv on the players.

And all of that is beside the simple matter that 3pv really just doesn't belong in mechwarrior. You shouldn't have done that in the first place.

[ryoma]

Franchi, on 28 August 2013 - 04:40 PM, said:

You know at the end of the day i have to admire the cleverness of this its bloody brilliant!

If we don't vote
PGI: see no one cares!!!

If we vote no:
PGI: See they care and they think 1pv only is TERRIBLE!!!

If we vote yes:
PGI: See they think that it should never be forced first person in a non 12v12 setting!!!!


Ten months from now when 12v12 is as dead as it is now becasue everyone gave up on getting people together to play.

PGI: See 1PV was NEVER POPULAR!

Its underhanded, dishonest and brilliant.

If they put half this much effort and forethought into developing MWO we would have had the clan invasion already.

They totally know what they're doing

To kill the game.

[Hellcat420]

how do i down vote bryan ekman for this terrible poll?

[Alex Novian]

Bryan Ekman, on 28 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

Proposal: Limit 12 v 12 pre-made group matches to 1PV only.
Release Date: Mid to Late September

The public queues will remain a mix of 1PV and 3PV modes and Hardcore mode will be removed from the drop down list. Future enhancements to the matchmaker will allow stricter tonnage limits, and encourage a more fair and level playing field for all MWO matches.

That is NOT what I put up my Founders $ for. I've played nearly 12000 matches 99.9% PUG and you want to kick me in the shorts... WHY?

Please... Deliver the Game you sold me a year ago.

[Marj]

Having this would mean my $120 isn't completely wasted. I'll be able to play whenever I can get 11 other people together and there are other teams playing. It's NOT good enough, but it is better than nothing. Do not interpret my vote as support for the removal of hardcore mode.

Removal of 'Hardcore' mode - the mode you told us would be the primary mode of play - is not acceptable. I want to play this game as it was advertised whenever I have the time, not when I and 23 other people have the time. This will not end the criticism.

I also want to be able to grind cbills outside of 12 mans. Maybe I'll try and get 3 people from my unit to come back and troll pugs on comms (assuming my unit gets back into 12 mans - unlikely). It's far from desirable, but it's the only way to earn enough cbills for new mechs in a reasonable amount of time now.

http://postimg.org/image/4kn7587rz/

http://mwomercs.com/...m-with-3pv/%5B/

[Sahoj]

Please also add Hardcore mode.

[Reggae]

What is the point of this when 12 person only is supposed to get dropped when weight limitations are added. What will happen to the 1pv only queue

[White Bear 84]

All for this, but ditching the 'hardcore' mode for players that dont drop in a 12v12? No way.

Basically you are stuck with 3PV unless you drop as a 12 man.. ..not cool.

[Kinc4id]

This is fine for those that can drop in a 12 man...this isn't a solution for those of us that can't. Most of the guys I drop with refuse to play now because of 3PV. We need a choice, pure and simple. Add 1PV only as a choice for everyone, regardless if they are dropping as a 12 man or solo.

[KharnZor]

Heffay, on 28 August 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

I assure you I am 100% genuine here.

No you are not. You deliberately skirt around the facts with your own flawed perspective with the objective of ******* as many people off as you possibly can. Even when the facts are put before you in a way that cannot be denied you continuously dribble the same verbal diarrhea time and time again. Give it up.

[Dan Nashe]

Seems like a good step to me.
The random 12s will never be serious enough for 3pv to matter.
12s premades are the only place where I feel absolutely compelled to do whatever I can to win.
And I think splitting the PuG queue into two over 3pv would be bad.  Because it would kill any other matchmaker improvements.  (Want tonnage matching? Larger groups than 4? Better Elo matching? Then split queues for 3pv are bad!).

So I definitely support.

Edited by DanNashe, 28 August 2013 - 04:57 PM.

[Abivard]

[N0MAD]

I would vote if there was an option to vote for a...Should there be a 1st pv only option in game...

[Liveish]

Hello Bryan,

What about people that dont live in the US prime time and never get to play 12 mans.

Can you please bring in a hardcore mode for Pugs, or Open it up so we can play upto 12 man v pugs ( ELO is working you have told us) with 1PV only.

[Hellcat420]

Abivard, on 28 August 2013 - 04:50 PM, said:

LOL

[Maethos]

Chet Los, on 28 August 2013 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thank you for listening to our concerns and coming back with an amicable solution.

Lol I'll have what ever he's on. 3 post wonder if this is a alt trying to createsmore vocal majority. Well time to delete my vote.
Hi my name is Maethos and I was trolled, I promiss to take MWO one day at time, and just want to say I love you man! Hehe My give a damm just broke

Maethos

[Journeyman]

Ramblin, on 28 August 2013 - 02:20 PM, said:

I feel like I had to vote yes because there isnt any other options.... 12v12 is hard to do on a nightly basis for many units/teams/groups. At least its an option that gives us a chance to sometimes avoid the arcade game yall have created here.

Private lobbies with the ability to set tonnage, # of players, game mode, 3pv/1pv would solve this and MANY other issue's you guys are having with the community... are you gents aware of this?

^ This.

Voted "Yes" as I prefer it to "No", since there is no "None of the Above" option and the options for split queues is not a choice; however, as others have stated, this is a step in the right direction for my preference, not a solution to the current debacle.

I'm not particularly vocal about such things on forums because I typically feel my opinions are very well represented by many of the (non-ranting) intelligent feedback posts that are presented...this place is a gold mine of ideas if you dig deep enough, and I come from a group of pilots with a lot of experience in league and planetary capture. But I have to go on record to say that I'm disappointed in recent decisions made and hope the developers will consider the missteps that got us here in the future. I won't go stomping around about getting money back for my investments, but rest assured, my trust in future investment has been sadly eroded. I hope they make the changes to earn that trust back in the future so I can feel satisfied to spend my money with them again.

[Mista Whizzard]

Bryan Ekman, on 28 August 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

Proposal: Limit 12 v 12 pre-made group matches to 1PV only.
Release Date: Mid to Late September

Details: 12 man pre-made group matches will have 1PV enforced as the only useable view mode. Players will not be able to switch between 1PV and 3PV when playing in 12 v 12 pre-made match play.

This gives our core audience, who represent almost exclusively the 12 man team group play, a place to enjoy a pure 1PV experience.

The public queues will remain a mix of 1PV and 3PV modes and Hardcore mode will be removed from the drop down list. Future enhancements to the matchmaker will allow stricter tonnage limits, and encourage a more fair and level playing field for all MWO matches.

You ******* beauty! This is what i'm talking about! MORE POLLS GUYS! MORE POLLS ABOUT CRITICAL ISSUES!

NOW WERE WORKING TOGETHER! HELL YEA!

Ahem...sorry. Got real excited for a minute.... Now, you could implement polling systems into the patcher, and make em a form prior to login (one form for each "question" to ensure your gathering effective data. I would advise publicising this WIDELY, you know, attract BACK some of those players we've lost.

Just a thought.

(glimmer of hope continues to remain......)

[soarra]

PGI is it too much to ask for an unbiased poll
try this
http://mwomercs.com/...ased-like-pgis/