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[Cybermech]

I would have selected "mixed ques for 12 man gangs" if it meant some separation would be in sooner.
But guys there will be times were you want to play with your buddies and 1 of them just plays 10x better in 3pv.
That guy will always be a weak link then, mind you 1pv ain't hard

[New Day]

zorak ramone, on 29 August 2013 - 04:50 AM, said:

Thank you for preserving this picture.

Bump for great justice.




The removed collisions and repair-and-reload. They can remove 3PV, or minimally create separate queues.

This is all just an act of stubbornness and will on the part of PGI at this point.

Not the same thing.

[FlipOver]

soarra, on 28 August 2013 - 05:00 PM, said:

PGI please do not remove or delete
You want to hear from your core fans, well we are the ones on the forum
If you want more options added just message me on here.

As good as the pool is (lots of options) and as good as is your intention to help PGI see what the beta-testers think about this issue, I've got some bad news for you, mate.

Any poll made by other than PGI staff is ignored.

Don't even know if they will ignore the results on the poll made by Bryan.

Even so I voted anyway but don't get your hopes up... I learned it's just no use to make polls.

[soarra]

flipover, on 29 August 2013 - 05:36 AM, said:

As good as the pool is (lots of options) and as good as is your intention to help PGI see what the beta-testers think about this issue, I've got some bad news for you, mate.

Any poll made by other than PGI staff is ignored.

Don't even know if they will ignore the results on the poll made by Bryan.

Even so I voted anyway but don't get your hopes up... I learned it's just no use to make polls.

Had to give it a shot , and hopefully someone at pgi will acknowledge it

[Wolfways]

soarra, on 29 August 2013 - 05:29 AM, said:

If we are stuck with 3pv maybe once you hit a certain elo level you lose access to 3pv, Or you cannot switch modes in game.
I would still like it to only be used as a tutorial and a replay cam.

I'm not sure i trust the elo. I've seen a few new players dropping in pugs with me. They're the ones who say "How do i turn this 3pv off?"
Unless of course i really suck at MWO and have a low elo
In order to use 3pv for a whole match i think PGI would have to do a hell of a lot of work on it, as other than for "peeking" it's pretty much useless.
I'd prefer it to be limited to the training grounds/tutorial but we know that's not what PGI (and who knows how many players) wants.

[blood4blood]

I'd prefer if first person is the default view - I've seen a few too many disconnects with Alt-F4 instead of just switching views with F4. Other than that I really don't care - I played both views in MW4, would do so again, except the implementation of 3P in MWO pretty much sucks so I play first person anyway.

[MustrumRidcully]

blood4blood, on 29 August 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

I'd prefer if first person is the default view - I've seen a few too many disconnects with Alt-F4 instead of just switching views with F4. Other than that I really don't care - I played both views in MW4, would do so again, except the implementation of 3P in MWO pretty much sucks so I play first person anyway.

Sounds like a great noob-trolling tip:
Switch to 1PV is F4,
To go back to 3PV, press ALT-F4.

=> Don't do this at home, kids. Trolling noobs is wrong, we need the new guys to like this game and its community.

[EvangelionUnit]

Wolfways, on 29 August 2013 - 05:14 AM, said:

Ah i see. I didn't realize the founder mechs had a lower percentage. That kind of sucks
Not sure about the hardpoints being worse though (although a lot of people on the forums say they are). I just buy mechs if i like how they look

that's one way to do it, it would too, but no matter how nice they look, i couldn't take the grind to get the cbills together

[blood4blood]

MustrumRidcully, on 29 August 2013 - 06:06 AM, said:

Sounds like a great noob-trolling tip:
Switch to 1PV is F4,
To go back to 3PV, press ALT-F4.

=> Don't do this at home, kids. Trolling noobs is wrong, we need the new guys to like this game and its community.

Yeah, I've seen it multiple times now in PUG games. Someone asks how to switch, someone else says it's "Alt-F4", then you get 1-3 disconnects in the next 30 seconds or so.

[Tolkien]

blood4blood, on 29 August 2013 - 06:09 AM, said:

Yeah, I've seen it multiple times now in PUG games. Someone asks how to switch, someone else says it's "Alt-F4", then you get 1-3 disconnects in the next 30 seconds or so.

Don't worry guys, unlike the other letdowns, missing features, etc. the in game reporting tool will be out soon ™

[Shiro Matsumoto]

Separate queue for each, its the faireast Method.

Edited by John McFianna, 29 August 2013 - 06:35 AM.

[zorak ramone]

NamesAreStupid, on 29 August 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Not the same thing.

Explain yourself.

R&R and Collisions are both features that were removed. These two features have nothing in common (one is an in-game mech physics/interaction thing, the other is a post game UI thing) that would make them especially easy to remove.

Removing 3PV even temporarily would be simple: just set 1PV as default and disable the mappable input command for switching to 3PV. Its messier than deleting the code, but its definitely possible to do it and do it NOW.

So please, tell us. Why is it impossible to remove 3PV?

[PlzDie]

John McFianna, on 29 August 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

Separate queue for each, its the faireast Method.

It's not going to happen, that is the whole purpose of the PGI poll they are looking for an out, and if I look at the yes votes they are getting it. I gave up it is like ******* into a storm.

[Kunae]

Bryan just came on and locked his poll-thread.

[Deathlike]

Kunae, on 29 August 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

Bryan just came on and locked his poll-thread.

The sad facts:

1) The poll was biased.

2) The poll didn't even get 24 hours.

3) The poll wasn't announced to the community at large (even Paul's SRM 2.0 damage buff vote lasted longer).

Clearly, PGI "listens" to people like listening to a parent that keeps rambling on for no particular reason... just blocking all incoming messages.

Welcome to MWO everyone.

[Kunae]

Bryan Ekman said:

Thank you to all that posted here and expressed your opinion. Thank you to those that voted.

91.55% voted in favor of making 12 v 12 pre-made groups restricted to 1PV view only.

The work will be completed today, with branch testing starting tomorrow and through the next week. The planned release date will be September 17th. As with all features, they need to pass through QA and test before being released.

<Bryan sticks fingers in ears - "Lalalalalalalala">

Way to just take the fake poll results and ignore the opinions expressed in the thread, after "acknowledging them".

Edit: Oh, and Bryan, if you happen to read this? THEY DO NOT NEED TO BE TESTED. Just change the "3pv allowed" number from a 1 to a 0. Done.

Edited by Kunae, 29 August 2013 - 08:47 AM.

[Wolfways]

12 mans 1pv only, hardcore gone.

[RedDragon]

Deathlike, on 29 August 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:

The sad facts:

1) The poll was biased.

2) The poll didn't even get 24 hours.

3) The poll wasn't announced to the community at large (even Paul's SRM 2.0 damage buff vote lasted longer).

Clearly, PGI "listens" to people like listening to a parent that keeps rambling on for no particular reason... just blocking all incoming messages.

Welcome to MWO everyone.

Yeah, they don't even try to hide anymore that they don't give a f*** about the community. It's sad. Really really sad.

Edited by RedDragon, 29 August 2013 - 08:48 AM.

[Wolfways]

Every time i think they can't be stupid enough to do something they do it.

I have no doubt in my mind that the decision was made before the poll was even made, and worded to ensure it.
Also, this thread will vanish soon

I'm so sick of being told to **** off

Edited by Wolfways, 29 August 2013 - 08:53 AM.

[EvilCow]

It was not really a poll and definitely not a way to get real feedback.

Just a way to concede a little bit and then have a card to counter the "liars" argument.

I must say it was well planned and executed, not considering ethics of course.