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[Roadbeer]

Eldragon, on 03 September 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

Good to see that PGI is continuing to make sniping be as terrible as brawling, rather than make brawling better.

I won't be content until group fire is removed, random fire cone is implemented, and each player has to wait their turn to move their mech.

I just shot coffee out of my nose

[JohnnyWayne]

Lord Perversor, on 03 September 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

you are not the first Dual ac/20 Jager to cross the battlefields.

Also i'll be happy sniping your weak side torso and laugh at you when you die.

But I'm probably the first one that will rip you apart hard. You should see what a skilled player still can do with these, 4-7 kills a match? No problem.

[Lance425]

Tristan X, on 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

THANK YOU, JoJoxy, for saying exactly what I've been thinking this whole time. The hate and complaining is ridiculous.

Couldn't agree more with the both of you!

[Legend_]

I find all these cries of "YOU NERFED GAUSS OMG GG FAIL PGI !*&£^!" to be rather amusing.

I see a speed buff to the projectile itself and a HP buff to the item and the introduction of a mechanic that simply means *Insert shock reaction here* you have to think about your ability to snipe with it. You know, being a sniping weapon.. needing to think about that.

Shocking, I know.

[TyrEol]

The new hero mech looks great, I like how the Orion model has turned out in game. The CN9A c build looks good, wish it was purchaseable a week ago when I bought a CN9A for cbills

Nice to see the srm balancing and hope the ppc / gaus changes have the desired effect.

Tutorial looks promising too.

Overall thumbs up, looking forward to the patch on the 17th hoping for UI 2.0

[Menetius]

I'm really, really glad I kept my brawler Stalker. That's all I'm really gonna say further.

[Wintersdark]

D1al T0ne, on 03 September 2013 - 10:01 AM, said:

Goodbye Firebrand. Wish I hadn't paid real money for a PPC / AC mech that runs hot to begin with. Guess that'll teach me to spend money on this game.

Because there's no options left for the Firebrand, it's just bad now, right?

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

[Communist Space Lizard]

I wish they would stop doing this 'preorder' {Scrap} with the MC first.
It feels disgustingly money grubbing. It feels like we're being slapped in the face. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Come on. That is REALLY ******* me off and I'm sure others as well. STOP. DOING. THIS.

[Vulix]

I am enjoying how smug people here are getting off of patch notes. You people have no hope!

Anyway, I'm still not playing much until we hear community warfare details. That will be the real big one folks.

[LoveLost85]

Suprentus, on 03 September 2013 - 09:53 AM, said:

So no one remembers how debilitating PPCs and ER PPCs were when they were this hot? No one remembers how anyone with PPCs or ER PPCs were overly easy targets who shut down every 5 seconds? Nobody? Well, I guess fads just swing back and forth here.

the people that shut down from ppc heat and get popped are the same noobs that will shut down firing srms and mls due to poor heat managment, weapon is not relevant.

[Butane9000]

stoph, on 03 September 2013 - 10:17 AM, said:

In the patch notes:
Speaking of patience (ORION), this month the Orion makes its début in the game! The “Protector” Orion Hero ‘Mech is sure to be an instant classic with a paint job that is simply gorgeous. The Orion Standard variants will be available for MC on the 10th and for C-bills on the 17th.

C-bill versions will be available at launch.

You win this one Stoph, my apologies Kunae.

[stoph]

Butane9000, on 03 September 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

You win this one Stoph, my apologies Kunae.

Yeah! I finally won something!

[Azar Javed]

Holy hell! I guess I'll have to throw away my triple PPC mech now... Well, still got a few brawlers. We'll see how it works out..

[C E Dwyer]

oh yes forgot, I supposed I should like the OP's post.. Grumble..

[Tezcatli]

khood, on 03 September 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

I wish they would stop doing this 'preorder' {Scrap} with the MC first.
It feels disgustingly money grubbing. It feels like we're being slapped in the face. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Come on. That is REALLY ******* me off and I'm sure others as well. STOP. DOING. THIS.

It's smart marketing. You just have to wait a week or two. You want it fast? You pay. You don't want to grind as much? Pay for premium and get a hero mech. It's the same concept.

[Roadbeer]

khood, on 03 September 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

I wish they would stop doing this 'preorder' {Scrap} with the MC first.
It feels disgustingly money grubbing. It feels like we're being slapped in the face. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Come on. That is REALLY ******* me off and I'm sure others as well. STOP. DOING. THIS.

Actually, it makes perfect sense and isn't money grubbing at all. Buy it, don't, whatever... if you're geeked on (insert chassis here) you'll shell out the money, if not, you can wait until the CBill version comes out.

Much ado over nothing.

[Spintonik]

This is cool, just skip the PPC altogether and use ER PPC for sniping. Sniping is still possible with ER PPC, just a bit less often but anyway. And you can ever brawl with them, as they're effective under 90m. But for PPC, there are better builds to brawl than using this. I have never ever understood, why ER PPC is effective under 90m if normal PPC is not - ER is supposed to come from Extra Range, not from All Possible Ranges

[Dan Nashe]

Need to change my signature to explain ghost heat :-p. Heat and ghost heat address very different issues, as does recycle time.
Recycle affects dps. (Burst).
Heat affects sustained dps.
Ghost heat affects alpha size. Staggering two weapons (groups) 0.5 seconds apart affects accuracy.
Convergence is not sufficient. Because you can macro shots to negate convergence.

What I like about ghost heat is that it preserves choice. You can fire an unusually large clumped alpha at the cost of burst and sustained dps.

The only problem with ghost heat is that it is not communicated in game.
And that's where my feeling of "it's a good patch but" comes from. With NO real info on UI 2.0 or CW available, launch could be a disaster...

But, like the sledgehammer nerfs, all I have are guesses and fears right now.
I.e. 4 simultaneous nerfs to one gameplay type might be way too much.
Maybe.

Also, uac 5 probably needs an rof nerf or ac 10 needs an rof buff.
And large lasers and er large lasers need a safe heat cap of 3, not too!
I'm looking at you assaults wih triple energy locations!

Overall good patch.
But mediocre last patch to be tessted before launch.

[Suprentus]

Tezcatli, on 03 September 2013 - 10:19 AM, said:

Back then you also couldn't hit anything because of bad hit registration and lack of host state rewind for it. So they buffed the heat and speed of the projectile. Then HSR came into play and you had a ridiculous weapon. So now they're clearly hitting it on all those fronts to see if they did indeed over buff once HSR was implemented.

That's not why they were bad. Buffing heat doesn't make it easier to hit anything. The heat alone made both the PPC and ER PPC liabilities to take to the battlefield, and it wasn't just lack of HSR. Now we want to go back to making them liabilities, especially when every other map is a hot map now?

LoveLost85, on 03 September 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

the people that shut down from ppc heat and get popped are the same noobs that will shut down firing srms and mls due to poor heat managment, weapon is not relevant.

There's quite a huge difference between waiting 3-5 seconds to cool down for SRMs and waiting 5-10 seconds to cool down for PPCs and ER PPCs. I didn't think I'd have to explain that difference.

[anfadern]

Soy Sauce 2.0 Goodbye