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[Bracchus]

That Orion does not look good.. Weird since the PP mechs are all damn nice. Worst is the paint job, truly and utterly horrible.
Great patch thou

[Kattspya]

The Sleepy Weasel, on 03 September 2013 - 10:11 AM, said:

So... if they refund all your money, then you will give them more money?

If they start moving in the right direction again, yes. As it is I can not and will not trust them.

[Candun]

i guess gauss will be used about as much as bomblast lasers were in mw4 now... yay :/

[Bed Rock]

you have nerf a gauss and not the ppc under history the ppc need to charge as well way to go . ******* on a field trip comes to mined when some one says pgi . and to be honest i will go play another game and pgi should return people there money

[Roadbeer]

Advanced zoom 10x better.
Good job guys. It's not mind blowing, but it's worth owning now, definitely a step in the right direction. and the zoom behind it is a nice touch.

I actually like the new gauss system, sounds cool and puts an element of skill into the weapon. I give this a thumbs up.

Heat on PPCs seems about right.

Meta-humpers beware, you'll actually have to work at being a sniper now.

Edited by Roadbeer, 03 September 2013 - 11:19 AM.

[Protection]

Tutorial was a nice and important addition.

[Runs With Scissors]

the paint scheme for the hero Orion makes it look like a Tonka truck lol

[chiXnhawk]

Can some one officially start the UAC crying timer please.

[ImperialParadox]

khood, on 03 September 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:

I wish they would stop doing this 'preorder' {Scrap} with the MC first.
It feels disgustingly money grubbing. It feels like we're being slapped in the face. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Come on. That is REALLY ******* me off and I'm sure others as well. STOP. DOING. THIS.

You mean a for-profit company is trying to make money? Heavens-to-Betsy Martha wake the kids and get your hat, we have to get out of here!

Really, you know you could just wait the week or two and buy the normal variants for CBills right? No one is really going to come out to your house and "slap you in the face" while you're waiting.

Anyways, overall this is a good patch. I'll have to try out the Gauss changes, but I appreciate the PPC fixes and all the other things in the patch. These are the kind of aggressive changes that they should have been testing out months ago, but I'm glad that they are starting to make real changes to the game.

Edited by ImperialParadox, 03 September 2013 - 11:23 AM.

[Ransack]

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New In-Game Tutorial

• Click the button for the Game Modes menu (in the upper right corner of the main menu) and choose TUTORIALS.
  
• You will be loaded into a tutorial that will walk you through the basic movement controls.
  
• You will automatically use a Cataphract CTF-3D for the duration of the tutorial.
  
• When the tutorial is complete you can continue to practice in the tutorial level or press ESC and quit out to the main menu.

Yay, only a year late, but yippee kiyo kiyay!

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Gameplay

• SRM2 and SRM4 cooldown times reduced to 2.5s and 3.25s respectively.

OK, I can live with that

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• PPC damage under 90m has been reduced to 0.

ditto the above

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• Gauss Fire Delay:
  
  • The Gauss Rifle requires a 0.75 second charge before it will fire.
    
  • Once charged, the shooter has 1.25 seconds to fire the round.
    
  • If not fired during the 1.25 second charge, the Gauss Rifle will instantly dissipate the charge and require another charge to fire.
    
  • Both the cooldown bar and the weapon group ready light will turn green when the Gauss is ready to fire.

uh, what? Why did you nerf the Gauss? this is a change that I do not agree with, but will test before passing judgement.

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• PPC base heat increased to 10 (up from 9).
  
• ERPPC base heat increased to 15 (up from 13).

Did you adjust the ghost heat to compensate?

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• PPC/ERPPC projectile speed slowed to 1500m/s down from 2000m/s.

This baffles me. Was there no value in between that worked?

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• Gauss projectile speed increased from 1200m/s up to 2000m/s, internal health increased to 5 (up from 3).

okay I guess


Two weeks guys. That's all that is left. In my opinion, you should have been making these changes LAST MONTH. It's a little late in the game for big swings at balance. Oh well, thanks for doing... something though.

[Chowda]

"Heavens-to-Betsy Martha wake the kids and get your hat, we have to get out of here!"

Arguably the best comment so far.

[Monsoon]

#Thumbs up# on this patch.

Totally loving the new Targeting Zoom!

Oh, and the Orion!

[Squid von Torgar]

Best patch since I can remember PGI...Excellent. Now just give pugs a 1PV option and we'll call it quits

[Lyoto Machida]

Finally...PPCs knocked off the king of the hill. Doesn't really affect me as I don't use them too much anyways. Nice patch...too bad the Gauss got that timer anyways. Get rid of the ghost heat now and implement 1PV only queues and all will be good.

[Variable]

first impressions

-srm reload times...+1
-gauss is not broke. it's not a difficult mechanic to get used to but you can't time it with anything else...still viable as a snipe weapon or brawling even.
-tutorial is movement only but it serves its purpose.
-no noticeable difference in ppc's except regulars do nothing under 90m as stated.

overall what I've seen I like so far. But i'll let the masters truly test it out. gonna be a lot of loadout swaps probably though!

***not sure if they changed the gauss reload time but it could probably be sped up a bit. Still like it as a main weapon while I close with stuff.

[shadowwolf jerricho]

Seems like a very good patch overall. The only note/problem I have is the Gauss charge up. They were never meant to charge as they are always charged, the delay is the reload for the Ferro-Nickel slug to be chambered. Other than that nice job PGI, thanks..

Edited by shadowwolf jerricho, 03 September 2013 - 11:24 AM.

[Silverlance]

Ellen Ripley, on 03 September 2013 - 08:34 AM, said:

Totally overnerfed sniping.

This patch just killed the (ER) PPC:
- Bump of base heat for both PPCs
- reduction of projectile speed
- PPC damage under 90m has been reduced to 0
You effectively reversed every buff for PPCs since closed beta
PPCs are back to closed beta levels aka. ERs are unusable and standard are actually even worse now with the removal of damage below 90m

The balance wasn't far off prior to this patch, a little buff for brawling and then sniping as well as brawling would have been equally viable.

Instead you decided to kill sniping and make brawling the way to play.


I don't understand why you are not aiming at making both playstyles viable at the same time. If you in fact did aim for that, then you failed horribly - again.


You don't hit a waepon system with 3 big nerfs in one patch guys, you just don't.
When people asked for more frequent game balance changes, gradual & small adjustments where meant, not the biggest sledgehammer you could possibly come up with.

As much as I love your name, and have enjoyed playing with you in the past.
The problem with your post is simple. Everyone was sniping. There was no real brawling. If you weren't sniping, you were cannon fodder. Oh, excuse me. PPC+Gauss fodder.
With this massive nerfbat to the face, it forces people to actually rely on skill now in a drop to actually do damage. It forces them into an actual engagement, not just sit back and **** with two clicks. It also, hopefully, ensures the variety of builds on the field will now be more diverse than before. Again, hopefully.
So I for one have had a wee bit of faith restored in PGI with this great step forward. Hopefully this will be the beginning of the death of the Meta garbage that has been plaguing this potentially great game.

Not too shabby PGI, not too shabby.

[Roadbeer]

Bed Rock, on 03 September 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

Dear pgi I would like you to reimburse my cards for the over lord and the saber packs for you just decide to change things in the wrong way . I think the game is going in the wrong direction and your just going on with out a clue . But this is not what i have paid for and would like my money back for this is something i would not of bought

Dear pgi I would like you to reimburse my cards for the over lord and the saber packs for you just decide to change things in the wrong way . I think the game is going in the wrong direction and your just going on with out a clue . But this is not what i have paid for and would like my money back for this is something i would not of bought

ROFLMMFAO

[IceCase88]

All the cries for weapons balancing are amusing. So... when someone finds a weapon combo that is ideal, and effects your game-style, we run to the Devs QQing about how good a combo is? Pretty sad. The PPC-Gauss combo was not OP yet it was nerfed anyway. Great. Now the QQ mass can move onto the next weapons combo that effects their gameplay. I am a brawler and I did not find the PPC-Gauss combo to be OP.

QQing about weapons balancing is the same as QQing about certain mechs not being viable for your gameplay. As an example... a player is a brawler and thinks the Awesome is super cool! The player wants to turn the Awesome into a brawler even though it is the size of a barn wide. They fail making it a brawler for obvious reasons. They run to the Devs QQing about the size of its torsi and hitboxes even though it is the size of a barn wide. Even though the Awesome is a support/standoff mech.

In the end, mechs/weapons fill certain roles and rarely are you able to deviate from those roles. Not every mech/weapon is viable for what you want it to do. L2P There is plenty of research material to learn the roles of mechs and the uses of weapons. What everything really boils down to is most players do not know the basics of military tactics (i.e. using cover, taking ground, dynamically entering into an area, formations,etc.). All the QQing is going to turn this game into Hawken. Go play Hawken if you want arcade-style, NASCAR-esque robots. Since it is moving in that direction I guess we should embrace it... not so much.

Edited by IceCase88, 03 September 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[Coralld]

Just got out of training grounds from testing the new Gauss mechanic, and to be honest, its not that bad. I think they could extend the the duration after you charge the Gauss from 1.25 sec to 2 sec before you lose the charge and must recharge again.