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[Arafinar]

Poundcake, on 13 June 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

Hey Devs this isnt meant to be a flame just some insite from a fan of your game.

Like many here Im excited and googley eyed over the prosepcts of this game but to be honest this whole Beta thing is starting to put a damper on my experience. I cant help but feel slighted every time I see that hundreds of invites went out just to open my email to nothing, or log in to see the insanity of the PENDING flag as if it were burned into my screen mocking me.

Why are hundreds of others privledged enough to participate while I am not? I am no better or no worse than any other person interested in your game. No qualifications have ever been posted for the Beta, so I have to assume everyone that can run the game qualifies. This is not the way to welcome the community to your game, this is anything BUT welcoming. Its incredibly annoying actually.

This is like opening an ice cream store, inviting everyone in and then giving some free ice cream while the others who didnt get any have to sit and watch. The funny part is then you ask those that were made to sit and watch others get preferential treatment to buy the product.

To be honest, I wanted to buy the product, I planned to buy the product, but after weeks of being snubbed and having to witness hundreds of others receive a priviledge that apperently Im not entitled to Im sure you can understand why Im justifiably put off.

In my opinion you should look to those that were invited to the Beta to buy your Founders Packages. If Im not good enough for your beta then perhaps the Founders Package is too good for me also.

I suppose some will respond that this is the nature of a Beta, which my response would be wake up and smell the coffee. Times have changed. There are F2P games, and crazy good ones, around every corner. The smart ones don't upset the customers just before launch..especially if they want them to buy. I've been part of both the World of Warplanes Alpha, AND Guild Wars 2 Beta. Did I just get "lucky"? Or are there ways to run Betas so that its clear cut who gets in and why ...not some random sillyness that serves to upset people and went out with WOW subscriptions.

Thanks for your time.

You keeping that name if you play? Im sure Im not the only one wondering. As for your Ice Cream place ,lol new places 86 stuff all the time because they run out of it or they dont seat people because they dont have the room. as far as Ive noticed from the released keys only what,
less than five percent have keys so we are in the majority. Heaven help the 95%+ dont start to portray themselves like this.

Edited by Arafinar, 13 June 2012 - 08:38 PM.

[Insidious Johnson]

WalkingDeathBot, on 13 June 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Do you guys realize how long it would take them release keys if they had to read every single application. Hmmmm......lets see, ..........I realize there should be ways to filter this and such, but I mean really cmon, let's not waste their time with all this whining, it is just a waste of their energy to deal with our QQing on the forums.

Sounds like an argument made by Nancy Pelosi "We need to hurry up and PASS healthcare, so we can read it". Clear thinking instantly disqualifies that assertion. The majority of voters want it repealed and replaced. Living for only the wisdom of hindsight makes as much sense as living by the assertion that "It is easier to get forgiveness than permission". Look how well THAT went over, lol. Just because you see any counter argument as trivial does NOT mean it is. It means you are logically myopic.

Edited by Insidious Johnson, 13 June 2012 - 08:10 PM.

[Deux]

So I told you guys...Russ is hunting for Paul ....first he kicks the tower breaking Russ's hula girl....now aparantly Paul pried the f5 keys from everyone's computers at work that were still waiting beta invites as well

[thund]

i agree with parts of the thread but dissagreewith others. inviting people to taste test icecream then saying sorry you arnt what we want but you can buy a seat in the next flavor we develop is not right. the founders day packages should be offered to those who got beta keys and completed the assignment of testing. they should not be used as an additional tease for those who did not get invited but are expected to purchase a seat without test driving. just my 2 cents which aint worth much these days

[Arafinar]

deux, on 13 June 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

So I told you guys...Russ is hunting for Paul ....first he kicks the tower breaking Russ's hula girl....now aparantly Paul pried the f5 keys from everyone's computers at work that were still waiting beta invites as well

Wonder if there would be a market for "The RONCO F5 key repair kit"?

[WalkingDeathBot]

I've decided to pass the time I'm going to start building an actual mech prototype out in my Dad's shop. Ok let me see time to get the welder out, plasma cutter check..........crab .......I don't have any endo steel or ferrofibrous..........hmmm......

ah cardboard, that might work

[Deux]

Well from what I heard Paul has a 3 step plan to global domination

Part 1 everyone's f5 keys
Part 2 ???????
Part 3 global domination...

So help save the world hide your keyboards

[Hawkeye 72]

thund, on 13 June 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

i agree with parts of the thread but dissagreewith others. inviting people to taste test icecream then saying sorry you arnt what we want but you can buy a seat in the next flavor we develop is not right. the founders day packages should be offered to those who got beta keys and completed the assignment of testing. they should not be used as an additional tease for those who did not get invited but are expected to purchase a seat without test driving. just my 2 cents which aint worth much these days

Ur analogy would be correct if this were the final release of the game. But its not. Its a beta phase. A lot of betas used to be done internally with no outside invites. You are another individual who forgot what the word beta means.

No developer said "hey we don't want you", but as Russ has repeatedly stated they can only handle so many individuals at once. And a random draw is the best way to decide those lucky individuals.

[Heldar1]

deux, on 13 June 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

Well from what I heard Paul has a 3 step plan to global domination

Part 1 everyone's f5 keys
Part 2 ???????
Part 3 global domination...

So help save the world hide your keyboards

Good news!!! All of our browsers have Refresh buttons on them!'


.... Crap now hes going for the mouse too!

[Deux]

Lagoth, on 13 June 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Good news!!! All of our browsers have Refresh buttons on them!'


.... Crap now hes going for the mouse too!

DANG IT stop helping Paul rule the world.....
P.s. I figured out why I have been dropped from beta pool....Russ is a Canucks fan and well I like a real team lol (ducks) wow Russ that almost hit me I was kidding sheesh

[Deux]

Oh no Paul is here hide

It wasn't me Paul....I swear it was everyone else...yeah that's it..that's the ticket

[Zephonarch II]

I'll just pass the time with this. *yawn
Don't want to troll about pend...
...zzz...

Edited by Zephonarch II, 13 June 2012 - 08:32 PM.

[Dimetime]

Russ, you guys continue doing what you're doing. If indeed you guys end up in a spot because this guy doesn't buy a Founders package, I'll buy his to help you out.

Seriously.

This whine is laughable. I guess so much so for me as I've been doing this pregame forum rigamorou 14, 15+ years now for MMOs.

Here's something for ya OP. I bet I've been in more alpha and beta tests than you over these last 15 years IN addition I bet I have spent more money on the Battle tech IP since it was created, bub, then you have. Additionally I signed up on this forum MONTHS before you.

You don't see me here crying over not being in beta.

Chances at getting into a beta are random. With small exception they have always been that way. Even as the focus for betas have moved even farther away from actual testing and more to a marketing/PR department first taste event.

None of us are special, despite what mother may have told you. Our individual monetary expenditure or lack thereof is not going to hurt PGI the least bit. Remember, the moment you dot the "I" and cross the "T" on your "I'm never going to buy from you" letter there are thousands of people right behind you saying "PGI, shut up and take my money!".

[Deux]

Whew he left and didn't troll us.....YEAH that's right you better run ...we showed him whose boss....

But dimetime I am so special my mom wouldn't lie....would she... =(

[Paul Inouye]

deux, on 13 June 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Whew he left and didn't troll us.....YEAH that's right you better run ...we showed him whose boss....

But dimetime I am so special my mom wouldn't lie....would she... =(

[Deux]

Oh noes I'm boned.....

[Dimetime]

deux, on 13 June 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Whew he left and didn't troll us.....YEAH that's right you better run ...we showed him whose boss....

But dimetime I am so special my mom wouldn't lie....would she... =(

Seen the tooth fairy lately? In person? Those carrots give you super x-ray vision yet?

Not saying that she isn't a lovely woman, but sometimes...it's happened to us all my friend.

[Howitzer357]

So... here's the thing. A beta, as a lot of us have already experienced, is not supposed to be a free for all, go have fun, enjoy the game, you're privilaged and we love you, kind of experience. You get to playtest, which is a JOB, a job you aren't being paid for. And if you aren't going to DO that job, and you're just there to try out the content and try and get an edge over the competition, you're doing it wrong.

As someone who's beta'd games from... Final Fantasy XI to Lineage II and WoW, some others I can't really... announce... because I'm still under NDA.... I find it insulting the sheer amount of people who feel -entitled- to this beta because they've filled out a form. It's rediculous. I don't know if the OP is going to read this, or if the OP cares, or if anyone else cares, but it should be said.

This is not your game yet, this is their game, they're developing it, and right now trying to fix bugs that will impact everyone else's ability to enjoy the game, and for the dev to release a game that's both successful and profitable. If it comes out bugged to hell, no one will play, and they lose all the time and money invested. This is their time to fix stuff, the moment of truth. Don't rush them, don't go and make them feel bad because they made you sad in the face because you couldn't play a few months before release...


/endrant.

[Med1cated]

Ive played every rendition of Mechwarrior from the first. Anyone remember the OMO clan? We rocked back in the day. Will be rockin again soon. Ive dropped the OMO tag, but it can come back. If not ill play with the tb clan...Tactical Brotherhood.

[Vulpesveritas]

Paul Inouye, on 13 June 2012 - 08:37 PM, said:

I don't understand the majority of my fellow forum members either oh god-like dev of awesomeness.