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[Mike Oakenwall - the khadoran]

Build
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1d6830e7032dd1b

DPS

https://skydrive.liv...C3403EBFB%21187

Short version

ONI-VA

LBX-10
PPCx2
SSRM2x4

Modules - advanced zoom,advanced sensor range,advanced target decay.
Its a beast, my best mech by faar.

[NRP]

I was thinking about trying this Protector build:

STD315
3 MLs
LB-10x (3T)
2 ASRM6s (2T)
12 DHS, Endo, FF

You could even drop FF and throw an XL360 in there for some 85 kph shenanigans. But then I remembered that Orions suck at brawling. Oh well, maybe after PGI tweaks the CT hit box.

Edited by NRP, 11 November 2013 - 09:22 AM.

[DragonPup]

I don't know if this build is just crazy enough to work, or just plain crazy, but....
The ON1-P Shooting Stars

Yes, double LB-Xs. The idea is to just spray a mech down head to toe and go for crazy crits.

[627]

It is viable, in fact i mastered my -V with it (with only 2ML obviously). You can deal lots of damage and get some kills or die horribly. But great fun!

[Xeno Phalcon]

Using the tweaked hitboxes and my new 325 engine ON1-K Ogre II has received my Derp stamp of approval. This model drops the twin Streak Short Range Missiles and its ammo along with a few other support items in favor of a larger engine. I found that the 300 model engines were too sluggish on the Orion, I felt like I was piloting a gimped assault but with the 325 its feels much more nimble. (Special Note: Regard the BAP as you wish, I enjoy getting counter-ECM bonus and allowing LRM mechs to support me while im brawling but can be removed for person preference and used elsewhere.)

ON1-VA Demon III is based off my tried and true ON1-VA Demon II. This models BAP should not be removed, its extremely important for the streaks. Finally was able to do some extensive testing of my Demon III and it also gets a stamp of approval but its not as well suited for one on one brawls due to spreading damage a lot, destroys spiders with extreme prejudice however.

Edited by Xeno Phalcon, 20 November 2013 - 06:21 PM.

[Tahribator]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...6863da1b3094780

This another very successful build that I've landed on since the pulseboat. It is essentially two classes of mechs melded in one chassis, a long range harasser and a close range brawler.

You use the ERLL and AC10 to soften up targets in the early stages of the game and join in the brawl with 2x ML and 2x SRM6'es later on. It has 15 DHS, and they are mostly sufficient. In prolonged brawls heat management becomes an issue though, so keeping two Cool-Shots in reserve is recommended.

[BadFortune]

I built this one:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...21097599f4dbaf4

the concept is simple. Punching power at short to mid-long ranges, lots of armor and high(er) speed than the ordinary version.
And yes, it costs an arm and a leg to create, XL engine has its weaknesses, and there is no AMS, but as long as you keep moving from cover to cover it should be fine.
Overheating is a bit of an issue, until all efficiencies are unlocked.

[Spheroid]

@BadFortune; I think you will find that quad laser is still too hot.

Edited by Spheroid, 11 December 2013 - 12:58 AM.

[Rovertoo]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...010105028e1e654

(did that link work?)

This is my tricked out Orion, it's got all the bells and whistles! (It has every single upgrade!)

It's got max FF armor, a tough standard 300 engine, ES upgrade, and it is my favorite Orion I've played in.

1 LBX (1 ton ammo)
4 MLs
1 LRM15+A (2 tons ammo)
1 SRM6+A (1 ton ammo)

300 STD (2 extra dbl HS)

I do have an issue with tonnage, though. I'm at 74.9 and that irks me. Is there any tips, comments or advice on this thing? Maybe I could improve it somehow or fix that lousy .1 ton?

Edited by Rovertoo, 13 December 2013 - 12:50 PM.

[Dimitry Matveyev]

deanon, on 11 November 2013 - 06:02 AM, said:

Build
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...1d6830e7032dd1b

DPS

https://skydrive.liv...C3403EBFB%21187

Short version

ONI-VA

LBX-10
PPCx2
SSRM2x4

Modules - advanced zoom,advanced sensor range,advanced target decay.
Its a beast, my best mech by faar.

Running the same myself - great build!

[Psychotropic]

Wellp, I've found this to be pretty face-melting.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...8c9c9bef9bf87cc

[Walks_In_Circles]

I've been playing around a bit with my protector over the last few months, and a while back I found an interesting build. I did some reading and rebuilt my protector based on the following excerpt:

Quote

Armament:

The only weapon that is preserved from the original Orion is the SRM-4, though that is upgraded to a lighter-weight Offset Pattern K4 model. The autocannon and long-range missile launcher were upgraded to an Omega 12-Coil Gauss Rifle and a Type XX "Great Bow" LRM-20, respectively. The arm-mounted lasers were replaced with a pair of ER Large Lasers, one a Series 6W and the other a Series 7W. These upgrades have transformed the Orion from a close-range brawler to a fire support 'Mech.

Lore Build

Now while this build is not limited to the protector alone (They all have the necessary hardpoints), it does not have enough tonnage to remain a viable build, both concerning in heat and armor. In addition, ammunition becomes a problem for extended engagements. Making a few modifications, and keeping true to the fire support role that the orion fills so well, I made the following:

Revised Lore Build

It's simple, but works beautifully. You are effective at all ranges, rarely have to be concerned about heat, and while you may have trouble going head-to-head against an atlas, brawling is still a viable option (thanks to the hitbox fix). This build really shines at the 200-900m mark as you can augment your gauss and LL fire with a salvo of your LRMs for that finishing blow.

[RMR]

Alright I am thinking of getting an Orion but am still kicking the build idea's around. here is the one I like the best so far.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a9df6e9d0413968

Thoughts?

Also I am not entirely sure if I should get an Orion, or if I should get an Atlas. Thoughts on that as well please.

I have always liked both but I feel if I get a Atlas I'll just be a bigger (literally and figuratively) target which is why I have been thinking about the poor mans Atlas.

Edited by RMR, 12 January 2014 - 10:07 PM.

[Spheroid]

@RMR switch to mlas and add more heatsinks

Edited by Spheroid, 12 January 2014 - 11:39 PM.

[RavensScar]

RMR, on 12 January 2014 - 10:03 PM, said:

Alright I am thinking of getting an Orion but am still kicking the build idea's around. here is the one I like the best so far.

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a9df6e9d0413968

Thoughts?

Also I am not entirely sure if I should get an Orion, or if I should get an Atlas. Thoughts on that as well please.

I have always liked both but I feel if I get a Atlas I'll just be a bigger (literally and figuratively) target which is why I have been thinking about the poor mans Atlas.

As Spheroid says, your heat efficiency is very low. With MPLas and SRMs, it looks like you're aiming for a brawler, so you'll be hamstrung by such a low heat efficiency. I would also say you haven't got nearly enough ammo. You've only got 20 full volleys of SRMs and 30 shots for your ACs.

To be honest, I personally wouldn't recommend running an XL on an Orion built for brawling anyway. Like on an Atlas, your side torsos are very juicy targets.

As for Orion versus Atlas, really it depends on what role you want to fill. The Orion is tough, but it can't tank damage nearly as well as an Atlas. However, it is far more nimble, especially once you've unlocked all the Elites.

[mogs01gt]

Im currently using this.
ON1-K
I want to slap in an XL engine because I personally do better with speed.

Edited by mogs01gt, 13 January 2014 - 12:54 PM.

[Throbbinwood]

I do insane amount of damage in a Protector with 2x LL and 2x UAC5.

[RavensScar]

mogs01gt, on 13 January 2014 - 12:49 PM, said:

Im currently using this.
ON1-K
I want to slap in an XL engine because I personally do better with speed.

Firstly, you've got both endo and FF on that build, so you can't actually fit an XL. Apologies if you've already bought it, but FF is pretty worthless on an Orion. You're barely saving a ton and a half, and using up far too many slots.

I'd suggest trying this instead:

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d84c57fe7af1b38

[mogs01gt]

RavensScar, on 14 January 2014 - 12:06 AM, said:

Firstly, you've got both endo and FF on that build, so you can't actually fit an XL. Apologies if you've already bought it, but FF is pretty worthless on an Orion. You're barely saving a ton and a half, and using up far too many slots.
I'd suggest trying this instead:
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...d84c57fe7af1b38

I know. I bought FF trying out different builds. PLus I like having max armor and more DHS.

Edited by mogs01gt, 14 January 2014 - 05:36 AM.

[Modo44]

Take this. Treat the streaks and MLs as backup weapons, and you will be fine heat-wise. There is no reason to upgrade to an XL unless you want PPCs.