37 replies to this topic

[Koniving]

ShinVector, on 06 October 2013 - 11:04 PM, said:

Hmmm... I thought Fast Fire does indeed increase rate of fire ?
There was a patch note from PGI a while back that Fast Fire actually did the opposite of what it was suppose to do.
It actually slowed down the fire rate of before they fixed it.

Fast Fire is apparently one of the causes of AC2 ghost so, that why they increased the cool down of AC2s.

Up until the AC/2 "nerf" to 0.52, where they cut it off as otherwise it would trigger AC/2 penalties even when chain firing normally.

Even with the increased cooldown rate, with fast fire it'd still be faster than 0.5 seconds, resulting in ghost heat penalties regardless. Thus it was disabled.

[ShinVector]

Koniving, on 06 October 2013 - 11:10 PM, said:

Up until the AC/2 "nerf" to 0.52, where they cut it off as otherwise it would trigger AC/2 penalties even when chain firing normally.

Even with the increased cooldown rate, with fast fire it'd still be faster than 0.5 seconds, resulting in ghost heat penalties regardless. Thus it was disabled.

You are referring to Fast Fire or AC2 Ghost heat ?
Either way must have been obscure buff like the SSRM super easy mode wide relock.

[Koniving]

ShinVector, on 06 October 2013 - 11:21 PM, said:

You are referring to Fast Fire or AC2 Ghost heat ?
Either way must have been obscure buff like the SSRM super easy mode wide relock.

Both.

Fast fire worked until the 0.52 AC/2 "nerf", as with fast fire it'd still fire too fast. Ever since it's been cut off. Ask Jazz he's got the macro, the tests, etc., even a video I believe, where he shows it isn't working. And gave his reasoning which essentially tied to the AC/2 ghost heat penalties.

Have no idea how that relates to streaks.

[ShinVector]

Koniving, on 06 October 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Both.

Fast fire worked until the 0.52 AC/2 "nerf", as with fast fire it'd still fire too fast. Ever since it's been cut off. Ask Jazz he's got the macro, the tests, etc., even a video I believe, where he shows it isn't working. And gave his reasoning which essentially tied to the AC/2 ghost heat penalties.

Have no idea how that relates to streaks.

No real relation to Streaks... Other than unannounced "TWEAKS"...
Haiz... Been really bored recently... Where is DX11 at least ?!?!??!

Edited by ShinVector, 07 October 2013 - 01:30 AM.

[Appogee]

Pinpoint fell into the yawning chasm between Ambition and Capability, never to be heard of again.

Now we have only ghost unlocks, to remind us of its passing.

[Nick REX Trebla]

aniviron, on 08 September 2013 - 10:59 PM, said:

At one point convergence was not instant, this skill is a relic of that time, nothing more.

This makes things seem old already... wait: I guess they are, actually.

[Pht]

Mcchuggernaut, on 08 September 2013 - 10:20 PM, said:

Just unlocked my first Elite modules, and saw one that is called "Pinpoint". It says it increases my weapon convergence speed by fifteen percent. What in god's name does that mean?

In the past PGI discussed having what in essence amounted to a "lock time" to get all weapons concentrated perfectly under the reticule.

They have since decided (as far as I know) that they are not going to do this.

I suspect the thing you are asking about here is related.

[LemonsDaBest]

Okay the first five post was getting on point, but soon it got off topic as to what this thread is asking. As a alpha tester, convergence was very weird. Sometime you twist so fast when firing ballistics on both right and left side of your body, it will move like a cross in your screen. Another example is when your all ballistics are firing a light mech in front of you powered down, you will see a whole bunch of bullets fly pass the mech's body and through their legs hitting the ground instead. It took time for the weapons to concentrate onto one point even though both crosshairs are aligned. As of today it is removed due to it being......weird, and presenting.....insta convergence. Maybe that's why you see laser shots curving...........derp derp derp, get my drift?

[AlmightyAeng]

Mcchuggernaut, on 08 September 2013 - 10:37 PM, said:

Either I am the victim of a newbie troll, or I just spent quite a few experience points on a module that doesn't work, and I am now very angry. And they (PGI) want you to pay money to turn mech xp into general xp...shame on them!

You weren't trolled. It's literally just a slot for you to dump your XP into to 'pass go.' Once upon a time, PGI said it was going to actually do something. Then they said it was going to be replaced by something else.

These days they just ignore questions about it.

[Koniving]

Ghost Badger, on 28 April 2014 - 08:05 AM, said:

You weren't trolled. It's literally just a slot for you to dump your XP into to 'pass go.' Once upon a time, PGI said it was going to actually do something. Then they said it was going to be replaced by something else.

These days they just ignore questions about it.

Old thread is old.

LemonsDaBest, on 28 April 2014 - 07:49 AM, said:

Okay the first five post was getting on point, but soon it got off topic as to what this thread is asking.

You revived a thread from last year. Somehow.

[Kmieciu]

2 years later, we still have the same placeholder skill tree... but now we've got Urbie with TwistX skill ;-)

[BaconTWOfourACTUAL]

Kmieciu, on 20 June 2016 - 11:53 PM, said:

2 years later, we still have the same placeholder skill tree... but now we've got Urbie with TwistX skill ;-)

[Kmieciu]

BaconTWOfourACTUAL, on 21 June 2016 - 08:40 AM, said:

<funny pictures>

Yeah.
The real joke is, the skill tree has been a placeholder since 2012.

[Galaxie 500]

Hello from 2017 where I'd like to tell everyone's 2012-13 self that we still have a completely useless "Pinpoint" skill whose tooltip still refers to meaningless Weapon Convergence Speed. /sigh

[Koniving]

Zuggernaut, on 22 January 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

Hello from 2017 where I'd like to tell everyone's 2012-13 self that we still have a completely useless "Pinpoint" skill whose tooltip still refers to meaningless Weapon Convergence Speed. /sigh

While true, February or March is to bring us a completely new skill tree.

February definitely for public testing of it.

[AureliusDean]

I know this is necro posting, but I just looked it up... SPEED TWEAK. Thanks for the answer lords and ladies.

[Koniving]

Because it's here, this is what "Convergence" used to look like.

The stray shot that goes just passed me with a wide spread and then all the lasers tighten to a small spot as I run past.

Edited by Koniving, 29 April 2017 - 10:12 AM.

[Burning2nd]

If I were you I'd just stop listening to everyone here on the forums , they all know exactly how this game works and they know,everything there is to know about how pgi made this game ....

Do your self a favor and just keep grinding away at it ... speed tweak and extra module slot


Grind on